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General Category => RUMCar News => Topic started by: Chris Thomas on January 01, 2009, 03:00:03 PM
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Dear Friends
Further to the book review in Rumcar News 99 of the Mochet book. Is there anybody interested in owning a copy. If there are then we may be able to buy direct from the publishers.
Is anybody seriously interested?
Chris THomas
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How much are they Chris?
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Is it written by H. Brünning Germany / France? Im Interested in a copy either.
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Just got back from the BUMS New Year Bash. (ongoing since 5 o'clock yesterday!) Count me in foe a copy of the Mochet book.
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Count me in for one Chris, it sounds very informative. Ian. :)
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Me too please!!
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That's four so far. Anyone else? The more that show interest, the better Chris might be able to negotiate a discount for quanity. On French Amazon this book costs 21 Euros, plus 4 Euros 50 postage to UK. lets see how much further we can get it down if we all pull together.....
(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z211/stuartcyphus/514N5JP2G1L_SS500_.jpg)
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Chris count me in for a copy, too please.
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Dear Friends
So far we have five people interested in copies of the book for their personal collections. I will leave the subject open for about a week in the hope that we can get the numbers up higher, before I arrange to get a bulk order from the Publishers. Provided it is cheaper than French Amazon then we should be in Business.
I will check with Jean and Tony to see if anybody has contacted them, especially if they are not part of the forum.
Let us hope we can get a good deal.
By the way I saw a book in a Belgian book shop called, My Beautiful Mobylette, by Francois Skyvington. Not being into mopeds, and the queue to pay being long, I did not get it. Has anybody read it?
Chris Thomas
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hi friends,
what a good idea to have the famous mochet's book in your rack ! mr hermann brunning is MISTER mochet !he knows all of that great family's history . his book is complete about models ,adverts , printed a few years ago .
if i could help you, i would ask you do not print copys of that ( or doesn't matter what) book . this method kills the small business of book printing . this book is already a flash copy printing , to be low cost ,don't prevent mr brunning may be writing a new book ...
you can find some new books-low prices at www.tido.fr (jan de lange 'sbubblecar book for exemple:10 € ! ) .
thank you for doing your best for our common passion.
friendly
jean-do
Bubblecars & Scooters en Bourgogne
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Dear Jean Do
Good to hear from our special French Friend.
Do not worrry we do not intend to photocopy the book, we are arranging to buy the books from the publishers in Toulouse as no British book shops will get it for us, so we must do it ourselves.
Do you know of any other books we should have in our book collection?
Chris Thomas
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Photocopying books? We dont do that sort of thing!(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/gyrostarter/IMG_0485.jpg)
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Dear Bob
Great photo
Is that you driving before you lost your hair?
Chris Thomas
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Dont be cheeky Chris, is it my fault that my hair style is currently the height of fashion? I wonder what sort of speed you can get up to in one of these on a level road?
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Dear Bob
On a level road, no speed at all, but give me a down hill incline and gravity starts to work in my favour. On one occassion I went through a 30mph zone at the bottom of a hill at 40mph, while freewheeling on my old bike, beat that?
Chris Thomas
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nice pic !
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Luv this one! Where can i grab one of these??? ::) ::) ::)
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Yes Chris but we are not talking about your bike, these things must have a little weight to them and some wind resistance too. I wonder if two up pedaling goes faster than one on board pedaling, power to weight ratios and all that stuff.
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Dear Bob
Purely on the basis that no world record has ever been set by two people pedaling a Mochet Type H velo car I would say NO.
All of the world record attemps have been made with streamlined two wheeled one man machines.
It is a bit like a Tandem, is not quicker than a normal cycle, until you go down a hill.
Do you think the Toure De France would be quicker with Tandems and Velo Cars. I think not!
Chris Thomas
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Dear Chris, I beginning to get the impression that you are not taking my question seriously! :D :D :D
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Dear Bob
Do I ever take things seriously
I think that to answer your question you need some willing helpers, a Mochet type H, an unused airstrip and a stop watch.
That way you can get each person to do two runs up and back along the runway over a set distance of say a quarter of a mile, and record the average time. Then do the same with two people and then do the same with the same people on ordinary bicycles.
The resulting times should give you a fair answer to your question.
Now it is just a case of finding the time and the components to do it.
Good luck
Chris Thomas
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But what units shall we be measuring in; miles per hour or coronarys substained per yard?
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See there you go again, talking about bicycles! I'm not talking about comparisons with bikes or setting speed records, just wondering if an extra person on board and pedaling would move one quicker bearing in mind their added weight. I guess there is no answer as such because it would depend on the strength to weight ratio of the extra person.eg, Mrs Mills would doubtless slow it down where as an Olympic cyclist would make it go faster. Then again the downwards weight of Mrs Mills heavy legs on the pedals may compensate, there is so much to concider! Call me a luni but these things have to be pondered to make life worth living! Chris, am I right in thinking that you are the appointed GLOBAL Rum 100th edition special event organiser? I was thinking, we could stage the experiment down Jeans lane in July. The first run could be taken by myself and say, you Chris, I'm sure you wouldnt mind if its in the interests of science, and the second run by myself and say Marcus, he is slight but wiry, I think satisfactory results would follow. All we need is a Velocar! What do you think? ps, In no way am I comparing Chris to Mrs Mills in this post, he's just the biggest lad in the team I can think of!
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Dear Bob
Thank you for not comparing me to Mrs Mills (The younger element will not know who Mrs Mills was or what she was famous for!!!).
Yes I am the Celebration Weekend Organising committee chair person and general dogs body. Jean is very protective of the lane and what it is used for and whilst I think your idea has legs (?), I think Jean would think otherwise. So the test would need to be done off road where it is safe to undertake such a scientific experiment.
My analogy with bicycles is only made as a direct comparison regarding pedal power rather than engine power and not for any other reason.
I do hope this helps you to get to the bottom of the thorny issue.
Chris Thomas
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Chris, I'm glad you think the idea has legs, I was only pulling yours! For the younger ones, Mrs Mills was a very round and weighty piano player, popular in the late fifties early sixties, a rival to Russ Conway.
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Dear Bob
The fact that Mrs Mills was a rival Piano player to Russ Conway is a bit like the TV commentator of a snooker match saying " For those watching in black and white the yellow ball is next to the red ball"
Whilst Run Conway liked to play Side Saddle, he was no Cyclist.
Its funny how radio is always more imagenative than TV. I found the same with Black and white TV. Our Bush 9 inch B&W TV had so little contrast you might as well have been listening to the radio.
Those were the days, Bert Weeden, David Nixon, Twizzel, Quatermass, and Barry Bucknall. There is nothing new in this life
Chris (over the hill) Thomas
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You missed out Muffin the Mule.
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Barry Bucknall.
Chris (over the hill) Thomas
Ah, Barry Bucknall. I used to watch all his programes. It looked good when he had finished the jobs he was doing. But months later things started to fall apart didn't they?
Over the hill? It should be easy now you're coming down this side! ;D
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You missed out Muffin the Mule.
Ooh err! Do you mean this puppet Bob? http://www.whirligig-tv.co.uk/tv/children/muffin/muffin.htm
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Thats the chap! I just about remember it.
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Dear Chaps
To get back to the original thread . I have ordered 8 copies of the Mochet book from the Publishers in France at about €18 per copy plus postage, compared with €21 plus postage via Amazon France (subject to exchange rade fluctuations). I am not sure when they will reach me but I hope it will be before 1 March 2009.
I have requests for 5 copies so will have 3 copies that will be available probably via the Rumcar book page ( subject to Jeans approval).
More news once they arrive.
Chris Thomas
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I have ordered 8 copies of the Mochet book from the Publishers in France at about €18 per copy plus postage.
I have requests for 5 copies so will have 3 copies that will be available probably via the Rumcar book page ( subject to Jeans approval).
Chris Thomas
Hello Chris: Keep me on the list, thanks. Ian.
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Dear friends and fans of the Mochet
The books have arrived from the Publishers (all 8 copies). Now all I need is the credit card bill so I know what exchange rate I have been charged. Then I need to work out the postage rates for domestic and other countries and I should be able to give each of you an exact cost.
Perhaps those of you that want a copy of the book should email me directly at tileroofconsult@btconnect.com and I will quote you individually. But for now I anticipate the cost will be about £18 plus postage and any currency transaction (Dollar or Euro)
For those coming to the meeting on 1 March (you know who you are) we can save the postage cost.
For those of you that want them posted to you I will need your full address, followed at a later date with some cash or a cheque.
I will need to speak with Jean about what we do with the books that are not sold, to see if we can get them listed on the Rumcar book list.
I look forward to hearing from you
Chris Thomas
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Dear Friends and fans of the Mochet
The final costs are in for the book, and they are: -
The book "Mochet Minimalisme Sur Roues" £16.00
Uk second class postage + packaging £ 1.00
Postage to other locations request cost
Currency charge from other locations request cost
I have 8 copies and 5 are already allocated , so I have 3 copies avaiable to those who have not already expressed an interest.
Please contact me on my email tileroofconsult@btconnect.com to sort out addresses, and payments.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Chris Thomas
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Hi Chris
Can you bring a copy down for me at the meeting next week, I will add this book to my collection - Thanks
Mike
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Dear Mike
I will be bringing all the books along with me to the meeting. But should give everybody an equal opportunity to purchase a copy.
See you there
Chris Thomas
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Dear Friends
I still have two copies of the book on my shelf if anybody wants one
I look forward to selling them
Chris Thomas
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Chris,
Do you still have a copy of this book available?
Cheers,
Colin
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Dear Colin
I have one copy left. Did you want it?
The price has not changed
Chris Thomas
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Yes please Chris. In a moment of madness I appear to have bought a Mochet CM-125Y (it's a soft-top so i assume it's a Berline). Please pm me with the details and i'll send payment. All the best, Colin
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Hi Colin. Thats good news, please post up some pictures when you get a chance. As a fellow Ydral powered vehicle owner I would love to see it. What kind of starter does it have? Bob
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Hi Colin Please put it on the Register too- send the details to Alastair Lauchland whose address can be found on the Registration form which can be downloaded from 'About the Register' page of the web site. Jean
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You know, it feels a but funny owning a microcar again after many years. I've always felt a bit of an outsider on this forum, with my obsession really being directed toward pre-microcar 3-wheelers. But hooray - at last, now I'm as bad as you lot :)
I sold the 1914 Warrick at Beaulieu as well as the Bernardet I bought from Jean-do a few years ago, so I felt I could justify a new toy.
The Mochet will be collected from the Lyon area next week, by one of my French friends, who'll drop it off to me on his way to Stafford Show in a few weeks. So I can tell you more about it then. I may have some questions about it, as i've never owned one before, so i hope i can pick your brains, Bob?
It seems to be a good original unrestored example in running order. The hood hasn't been lowered in many years and the previous owner's scared to do so, so that will probably be the first task. The speedo cable needs replacing. I have no idea of the condition of the interior. That's all I know. I can speak French reasonably but have great difficulty understanding the replies! It seemed a fair deal at 2k euros. Keeping my fingers crossed. Will post photos and add to register when it arrives...