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General Category => RUMCar Mart => Topic started by: Bob Purton on May 09, 2010, 05:56:26 PM
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As some of you know recently I have been contemplating parting with my yellow Messerschmitt, after much deliberating I have finally decided to let it go which will be quite a wrench as I have owned it for 12 years. It will proberbly be offered on evilbay but thought it would be good manners to mention it to forum users first. Bob
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Does this mean 'Schmittlessness? This is a serious business and could result in further Isetta heads you realise. Your on dodgy ground having an Inter as it is more pointy than a Schmitt. The Fend Fort Police will be knocking on your cat flap - well they have small minds you see. Oh, I have an Isetta head now.
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Thanks for your concern Fred Bare! Just think, none of them will ever talk to me again if I export it, not a bad thing ah? I'm happy to report that I have taken the plunge and bought the said Isetta, an imaculate little red LHD Brighton jobby not dissimular to my first car when sixteen years old. Now to relive my youth! Cant afford to be too smug yet though, have to sell primrose to pay for it and hopefully have substatial change in my pocket too.
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I'm happy to report that I have taken the plunge and bought the said Isetta, an imaculate little red LHD Brighton jobby not dissimular to my first car when sixteen years old. Now to relive my youth!
Why sell the (usable) king of micros to be replaced with (whilst admittedly charming) an inferior machine?
To the layman on the street the Isetta has the wow factor. It's not a rare car (early model or not). However the KR is leagues ahead. OK it has poor brakes,hard ride and a PITA reverse but styling/handling/engineering it's the best.
Each to their own... ::)
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However the KR is leagues ahead. OK it has poor brakes,hard ride and a PITA reverse
PITA? Is that a new competitor for SIBA? ;)
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You know why Perry! The very rock hard suspension you mention brings on my vertigo problem making driving it a risky business! I have opted for something with a softer ride.Its also pointless comparing the schmitt with an Isetta, they are just different animals. I am now looking forward to stopping in a straight line, not being thrown out of my seat when I hit a bump, not wagging my rear end as I go down the road, not roasting under the dome when the sun shines, not having my wife comlain about her kidneys roasting against the rear firewall, not having to shout my head off to be audible to my passenger, and perhaps the biggest treat of all not having to suffer the bigotry of some schmitt owners who think that schmitts are the only microcar worth owning. Having said that some of the schmitters are great guys and are good friends, I include you in that number Pel! It is a wrench though, I have even considered parting with the Inter instead as my history with the messerschmitt goes back a fair way and I have some good memories. Anyway, I have owned an Isetta before and loved it, end of story.
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go for what you want,and what you can gain most enjoyment out of owning and driving,no good having a minter of a schmitt if you are ill when driving it,better to get an isetta that you can enjoy and then someone else can gain enjoyment out of your hard work on the schmitt :)
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Ultimately a Schmitt is replacable, an Inter is not. Correct decission I would think. I am not an Isetta lover myself but the Schmitt is certainly not perfect. I think it is much more of a nutters car as they really respond best to being driven really quite hard. This is not what most folk want to be doing and is not popular in mixed company at Rallies. Also if you are enjoying Fizzies etc then you can get 'speed' kicks from thrashing one of those leaving the Isetta for more sociable outings. Schmitts are not greatly sociable. Sad though, what happens to the white floppy hat?
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Hi Bob
And I was saving my bubble window Isetta for you - I suppose I'll have to sell it on evilbay next year!!
Mike
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However the KR is leagues ahead. OK it has poor brakes,hard ride and a PITA reverse
PITA? Is that a new competitor for SIBA? ;)
No its bread lost in selling a Schmitt in the UK at the moment!
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Hi Goggo, I will talk to you at Enfield about that. Bob
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PITA + Pain in the arse!!
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I would never have worked that out on my own!
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Thanks for letting me know , Are you selling it with all the silverware ( well tinplate) that it has won over the years ?,,,,I'd allready pencilled you in for 'best microcar' at next years rally as you missed out for the first time last year!
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Hi Dave. No, I think I will hang on to the Trophy's.
Well this is it Dave, since the car didnt win last year I am so emotionaly scarred that I cant live with it anymore! ;) :D
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is this it?
http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/classic-car-page.php/carno/95318
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no Bob's is earlier and yellow.
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And cheaper! £13.500
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ahh how pretty,thats the one ive got in a magazine feature from a few years ago.i thought it looked nicer than the other one advertised :)
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Why thank you Kitty! Do you want to buy it?
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i couldnt afford the dome,let alone the rest of it lol ;D
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The white Schmitt for sale is increadably late production judging by the chassis number, about last year! It is also RHD which I have never seen before. Very rare, Gerald - TVR joke - . In fact a typically missleading Essex advert, I'll put my car in the garage I am so keen to follow that up. Bob's car looks a bargain compared to that as we have seen it work.
I am into Schmitts and I cannot afford a dome either! The price of spares is spiralling into putting the cars off the road. I only persist as I got my stuff when it was cheap otherwise I would not bother. There is plenty of cheaper cars that offer as much fun if you can live without being the centre of attention.
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On behalf of someone else - any interest in a Tri Tech in a deal? He has not enough money for an outright purchase. The car would be ideal for him.
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Dear Thread bare
Having just read your recent piece regarding a Tri Tech I was left wondering what version of English it was written in.
"Any interest in a Tri-tech in a deal". I was OK with the beginning and then became confused at the end. I assume that you are asking if anybody is interested in buying a Tri-tech , but what does "in a deal" mean. Does this mean that you would consider a swap for another vehicle or cash offers.
The next sentence did not help me " He has not enough money for an outright purchase". Does this mean that you own a Tri-Tech and somebody would like to buy it from you, but does not have enough money, and is looking for somebody to lend him the money, or he has baught it and now finds he can not pay for it so needs to sell it to pay off the finance, or he wants to share the vehicle with somebody in a similar position whereby they both own the vehicle.
The final sentence confused me further " The car would be ideal for him" I assume that the person who owns the car and wants to sell it, is keen to get rid of it as soon as possible, or the person who wants to buy it would find the vehicle ideal and will dominate the use of the vehicle,
I am all for brevity but not at the expense of clear English. May I have a translation of your item.
Chris Thomas
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Yep! I could make neither head nor tail of it either!
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i guess the tri-tech owner would like to do a part exchange on Bob's schmitt?
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Oh! Thats what it means.
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The thread topic is selling Bob's Messerschmitt is it not? Thus question, qualification and statement. Sorry if that was not clear, left handed brain on overdrive as it often is. It works far faster than the right side which is the bit that lives in the world with everyone else. I am often in trouble for left brainism. It is very lateral in action and not always easy to follow.
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I have a chum who owns and runs a yellow 250cc Honda Tri Tech . Anyway fellow wants to own a real Messerschmitt now as there is an Oxfordshire Microcar cell that looks like forming.
Bob has a Messerschmitt for sale. Chummy has not got enough money to buy such a car without selling his Tri Tech although Bob's car is exactly what he should really be looking for as he has not the skills to build a car up nor do a restoration. I have not the time to be drawn into doing a car for him as I have a load of stuff of my own to sort out. Therefore the proposition of the Tri Tech forming part of a purchase deal of Bob's KR200 looked to be an option should Bob have an interest in such a device. Probably unlikely but it was worth my asking on Nick's behalf.
I do not own this car of course and really have no interest other than in helping out. My motivation is really to not be asked to do a restoration. As to the car being for sale, I imagine it could be bought outright if you are interested but it is early days and no move has yet been made to market the car so I do not have a price. Therefore the option exists for you to be the first suitor since you are clearly interested in the car. I can tell you it has modified front suspension. No idea on how it was financed or how desperate he is to sell/swap it. Clearly the idea of having a real Messerschmitt he can use with those of us locally who have roadworthy Microcars is the prime issue that has been stated. However his motivation for selling is irrelevant to the basic question which is if Bob, or another 'Schmitter, is interested in part exchanging a Messerschmitt.
I have now found another possible Messerschmitt for him to buy which might well be a part exchange deal so the window of opportunity might pass shortly. Last message said he is worried about selling the TT and then being left without a Microcar for the season - well that kind of goes with the territory really but an ideal world sometimes exists. My gift is to find it for him, I guess.
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The schmitt is now sold. Thanks to those who inquired. Sad but must now look ahead to a new era of bubbling the Isetta. Will post some pics of it later.
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So your now Beeming! Good 'Schmitts do not hang around long. I put someone onto it but I bet he has not 'phoned yet.
Meanwhile I have regained a KR175 in the stable of shagged 'Schmitts. Can I interest you in such. Ideal for spinal complaints!
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cannot claim any credit for primrose Bobs schmitt but i owned it for a couple of years in basket case condition . i well remember taking a truck to collect it , my brothers construction company ,what are they 5 ton tippers - anyway big ! i love those trips to collect cars or motorcycles . i can remember every one of them . it always seems to be several hours and maybe 100 miles each way . nearly always a basket case for me and do you remember that stop half way home when you climbed in the back to drool over what you had bought . that would still of course be before the reality set in !anyway i was thrilled with the schmitt but it was not on a v5 and i became very disillusioned with the MOC who were incredibly unhelpfull in reclaiming the number which i had the plates for .i got the impression that if i hadnt owned a scmitt for at least 25 years they wouldnt help at all . i will never forget the 3 or 4 snobs that i came across , but will mention no names, they were a disgrace to the classic car world . feeling that if messerscmitt owners were like that i just wasnt interested ( i had by that time been on the Heinkel Trojan OC for some years so was no new boy ! ) i came across a neglected and very forlorn Brutsch at a local car show - it had been a static display on a trailer for 10 years behind a mark III jag . a weird combination , the car had never been off the trailer ! Terms were agreed and i sold the scmitt , indirectly to Bob , and bought the Brutsch in exchange . never regretted the decision but i do envy Bob s restoration job and the 12 years he had with the car. meanwhile i have made little progress with the Brutsch at all ! Bob incidentally was helped by the MEC in reclaiming his number i believe. i do have a photo of the messerscmitt in baskets and will post it when i can find it
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Yep, the MOC official dismissed me out of hand saying it was not possible. The MEC chap took a very different attitude and help me reclaim the number. I think the best thing for you to do now Richard is hand over the Brutch and let me sort it out. Ho Ho!!
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very kind of you to offer to do a restoration for me - i didnt know you cared :D
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No problem Dickie, just dont expect it back when it's finished! ;D ;) ;)
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Bob you need a lesson in desiring odd vehicles , like someone else did eh ;) , tomorrow for your delectation i will post pictures of the interior of the Brutsch and be assured it will make you very happy that you have a new Isetta , watch this space !
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tomorrow for your delectation i will post pictures of the interior of the Brutsch and be assured it will make you very happy that you have a new Isetta , watch this space !
start a new topic when you do it though please.
(looking forward to Brütsch fotos!)