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General Category => Unusual Microcar Discussion => Topic started by: Jonathan Poll on March 02, 2011, 10:06:39 AM
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Hello,
Many years ago, my dad's Heinkel was in ann advert. They made it into a submarine, for a certain type of Beer.
If anyone knows where to find the advert, please share it, as I have never seen it!
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I don't remember it at all!
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i certainly do !! when restoring my trojan in 1985/6 the catchphrase off the ad was current and i was asked all the time " do u vont to buy a second hand booble car ? " the ad featured freddie starr as german submarine commander tardis like in the trojan . white car with lifelike conning tower fitted . the interior shots showed an entire crew within . would love to see it again . i have some memorabilia and will look it out.
nice to be back - will try and contribute something of worth - but dont bet on it ! ;D
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It might be somewhere on you tube. I would love to see it.
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cant find it , and i have tried before. did just google freddie starr who was in it . being scouse ( very ) he's very well known up here , merseyside , a very talented comedian and great singer . his problem was he was so damned unpredictable that no-one dared have him guesting any more - can be very un p.c. loved him doing Roy Orbison its worth youtubing.
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Yep I remember it too but not the brand of beer. If that can be established via Freddie's history then the advert might be found. If I recall the car was a 175?
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rod gearchange as well wasnt it - i heard . ive never seen that set up on a Heinkel
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Kaltenberg?
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thats the one kaltenberg braumeister ." ze bavarian lager kommand "
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rod gearchange as well wasnt it - i heard . ive never seen that set up on a Heinkel
What were Jane and Freddy doing? Steering and hydrophones? I might have Bungled that comment. Bit of a Geoffrey.
Yes I believe you are right Kaltenberg. Might lead to some info.
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all i can manage for now . you wouldn't believe my cupboards - OH YES YOU WOULD COS YOURS ARE THE SAME !! ;D
as i said that phrase was used so many times that summer , the car was wheeled out into the drive and worked on , living on the corner of a busy side road many many people asked " do you vont to buy a second hand booble kar " so many asked i sprayed the car with the catchphrase it was freddies parting words - having finished the advert he was ( typically scouse ) trying to sell off the props.
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by the way it would still look great if someone made a replica of the car - easy too
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I have no memory at all of that ad. I do remember the Heinkel/Trojan in the Kenny Everett Video Show, would be nice to know which episodes to get on DVD.
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the pic of freddie is known in the trade as a wobbler - it fits on a shelf or in this case hangs on the beer tap during a promotion
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Freddie Starr ate my Heinkel ;D
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obviously ! you can see it stuffed under his shirt :D
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He got there before Ossie Osbourne!
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hi jonathan as no sign of a piece of film yet surely nick must have taken some photo's of the submarine - lets have a peep eh ;) i've shown you mine , now show me yours :D
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hi jonathan as no sign of a piece of film yet surely nick must have taken some photo's of the submarine - lets have a peep eh ;) i've shown you mine , now show me yours :D
Um, I realised it wasnt my dads car actually, it was a friends one, Nevill.
However, my dads old TG500 was in a TV show!
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but does anyone have photos of the heinkel submarine
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The Freddie star car today....
but does anyone have photos of the heinkel submarine
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Glad its surfaced. So its in a pen still and the tallboys missed.
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it was FANTASTIC - don't let it be dissembled !!another pic to follow if I can find it :)
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Hello Greentop! Amazing that it has survived!
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My boss bought it after the advert...he put it in a barn at one of his farms where it stayed for many years.. Unfortunately the guy at the farm didn't tell us the roof was leaking then finally it gave way.. Sadly my boss passed away this year and now we are sorting everything out but unsure wot to do with the car....
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Well I would love to know more ! I think we found that the advert was only ever seen in the north-west so is that where you are? To my mind that TV campaign is part of the cars history , then again something's lost already as we had it down as a very early Heinkel with rod gear change - super rare but that registration is quite a bit later . Love it and please keep it as ze Bavarian lager kommand
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Seem to remember it was a 175. Restored it could happily go in the Keswick museum or some such, as a whimsy. If it is a rod change, a difficult restoration to get right as it will be differing in quite a few ways from the later cars. Easier to perhaps stay modified.
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Tough one; a super rare early rod-change Heinkel nicely restored would be very desirable and worth a fair bit. A piece of history.
Restored nicely but remaining as the Beery U Boat special it would certainly be unique and interesting. A piece of history.
I would not want to have to make that choice, both are equally right, but both prevent the other!
The Haynes Motor Museum at Sparkford has two Heinkels (one might be a Trojan) the earlier one has the original smaller rear cowl over the engine, I wonder if that is a rod-change model.
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The Sparkford car used to be Mick Leeson's old car, RAA. Yes it was a coal scuttle 175. They bought a sort of metallic red Trojan? from the owner of an Ice Cream (Italian) business over on the Isle of Thanet. Masseralli, or something along those lines, as well. Nice guy. It was a good looking car but not 100% original.
Now I thought that the Leeson car was sold, got split from its correct engine and generally mucked about in the shuffle. So if it is still in Sparkford, and unmolested, I would be a happy chappy, as that car was very important for the Treinkel movement in the early days. It set a standard of presentation and use that encouraged others to equal. He was a big loss to the whole scene when he died, more years ago than I care to remember. He was a person that made things happen and motivated others to do things. I felt him looking over my shoulder, last weekend, at the disproportionately long line of Treinkels, compared to the more common marques. He would have loved that. And it is down to him, in part, that they were there in numbers, in use. More than that, Mick was one of my best friends in Microcars, so its also personal.
Mick's low mileage KR200 is owned by the MOC. Mick's daily KR200 is still owned by another best mate, Fletch. I still own a Mick KR. Such are the things we build, and bought well, to outlive us, sometimes owned jealously because of their history if for no other reason.
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The name Mick Leeson sounded familiar to me. I suddenly remembered why:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Leeson
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Greentop , I don't think we found out who owns the car now but I have a Kaltenberg beer dispensing thingy if the owner wants it ? Produced only during the commercial running It's a fiver plus p&p ?
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This is it, one of few reminders of the beer campaign , where on earth did you find that photo Jim ?