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Title: What would you sugest?
Post by: Fighting Robot man on July 04, 2011, 03:33:51 PM
Hi

I'm new to the forum and am interested in getting a micro car I have in the past owned, restored and ran an Isetta 300 but now would like to get back into the micro car scene, but I would really like a smaller car, either a Bambi or Replicar something most people turn there noses up at because they are ugly and 70's-80's but What I could do with is some advise on these and other similar cars. what to buy, how much and were?

thanks in anticipation


Craig
Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: Fighting Robot man on July 05, 2011, 02:58:51 PM
At this point I was expecting some Buy a Peel 50 comment or something like that, but no just nothing at all. Dose no one have any comments. or advise?
Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: Bob Purton on July 05, 2011, 03:16:54 PM
Hi. Sorry, I meant to reply last night but forgot. Have you ever had a Bamby or Cursor before? Do you intend to drive your microcar? If so the two cars suggested are not a good choice, almost undrivable. The Cursor is probably the better of the two as it was engineer designed but still has an engine /transmission totally unsuitable for a microcar, the Bamby was designed by a painter and decorator I'm told and is a death trap, believe me I know having owned one and having done serious mods on it to make it just about drivable. I can only recommend one of the mainstream bubble cars if you want to do serious driving. Keep us posted on what you decide on.  Regards, Bob
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Post by: richard on July 05, 2011, 04:04:58 PM
i guess it doesnt work like that really . people do or dont reply to a post as they see fit . if they want to reply in any way that moves the subject on they will . many days there are few replies to posts particularly during the week , anyway where do you start with a question like - what would you suggest ? i reckon ,so far, the members have given you their reply - they dont
Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: Big Al on July 05, 2011, 06:18:50 PM
A rather generalised question with a breadth of answers. Several observations. Buying through other peoples recommendations will not give you the car you want but the one they did. Funny thing is it might just be what they are selling! Best job is get about it and check out examples of the brand first.  Generally this avoids disappointment.  Rumcar do is just coming as well. Why buy one of the Brit jobs if you fancy using the car or want stuff from the 70's/80's. The French Fridges are cheaper and better. If you are after a white elephant, go for it. Either is perfect and we love them for it.
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Post by: Fighting Robot man on July 05, 2011, 08:03:29 PM
Many thanks
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Post by: mharrell on July 05, 2011, 09:04:56 PM
The French Fridges are cheaper and better.

Cheaper, certainly.  Also better?  My, that is unfortunate.
Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: Big Al on July 06, 2011, 08:09:22 AM
But that is an opinion. So already I am pushing you away from your intended purchase.
I wonder if deciding on a classic is often based on first car, dad's car or the car that made an impression when young so as to narrow the field a bit. It defines and simplifies the search. It is actually a curse to be like my type and be more likely to buy things as they look interesting. I pay up front to find I do not like cars rather than being sensible and checking them out first or being satisfied with one or two types and sticking to them. I am fortunate that there have been enough people who are interested, or think they are, in stuff I decide I do not like. A task made easier if you improve the thing in your ownership rather than making things worse. So I have rarely been lumbered with a dead weight. However I have a pretty clear idea of what I think are good cars because of all these experiences and also what are duds. Should I really influence folk with my image of classic motoring unless they ask? Probably not. A more specific question is easier and would tend to be more factual probably. Like a Freeway, say. I can state I would not own one because it is a crap design. I ignore their good points. The specific reason is they cocked up the front suspension therefore you live with it or make a modification. Does not stop people enjoying them though. So advice is great but no substitute to getting your hands on a real machine be it owned or 'borrowed' and then creating a discussion and listen to the fallout. Just like I used not to!
Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: Fighting Robot man on July 06, 2011, 01:26:28 PM
Some interesting points, and as for the drive before you buy, this for me is a lesson learnt,
I have at the moment a Bond bug and can't stand the thing!
can't put my finger on why. and after driving an Isetta over 200 miles in one day, I do Know what they can be like to drive,
I am looking for something unusual to look at, and to drive round the village and town I live in and close to. So most journeys
would be at sub 30mph and only about 2 miles in duration.
I nearly got a Bamby that was for sale on E Bay recently, I was to look at it in the afternoon and the person in the morning bought it!
I am looking for your opinions on the smaller microcars, How they drive, value for money, reliability and spares availability and so on.
I know it is your opinion and will take that into account when I decide what to buy.
So far the thread has been helpful so keep the comments comming. ;D
Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: richard on July 06, 2011, 01:29:39 PM
A Bond perhaps ? very driveable , easy engine spares little rust ( earlier ones ) and that little party trick of turning in there own length . there day is yet to come !
Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: Big Al on July 06, 2011, 01:35:10 PM
Some interesting points, and as for the drive before you buy, this for me is a lesson learnt,
I have at the moment a Bond bug and can't stand the thing!
can't put my finger on why. and after driving an Isetta over 200 miles in one day, I do Know what they can be like to drive,
I am looking for something unusual to look at, and to drive round the village and town I live in and close to. So most journeys
would be at sub 30mph and only about 2 miles in duration.
I nearly got a Bamby that was for sale on E Bay recently, I was to look at it in the afternoon and the person in the morning bought it!
I am looking for your opinions on the smaller microcars, How they drive, value for money, reliability and spares availability and so on.
I know it is your opinion and will take that into account when I decide what to buy.
So far the thread has been helpful so keep the comments comming. ;D

Would you live in the Wantage area? Isetta owned, Bug for sale, prior classic nut status....
Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: wilksie on July 06, 2011, 05:50:01 PM
I know you said you are looking for something more unusual than an Isetta, but as soon as you are asking for opinions: I remember a long time ago sitting in the back of Dad's car playing 'spot the Isetta'. Since I was four years old, I must have known that I wanted one, one day. I still enjoy the shape and the way it drives, but I may be on the wrong forum here. My early infatuation, it seems, has turned into a life-long passion. At least, until a well-known bloke passed on a Nobel to me. Now I love them both (the cars that is!)
Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: blob on July 07, 2011, 12:18:39 PM
The Nobel's a good choice as an entry level car, though underpowered it has fairly basic mechanics. Unfortunately I can't vouch for the ride except for the quote in the owners manual "hold the wheel lightly as the car steers by itself", or something along those lines. What about a Frisky, Villiers powered, hydraulic brakes, looks everything came out of a Morris at some point and it's another car that's currently underrated.
Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: richard on July 07, 2011, 02:15:06 PM
my gran had a morris minor so you could say i came out of one at one time - i am also underated  :)
Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: P50 on July 07, 2011, 08:57:30 PM
Schmitt.  All things to all men..
Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: Daniel Rodd on July 07, 2011, 10:13:02 PM
apart from those who dont have £15k burning a hole in their pocket
Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: Bob Purton on July 07, 2011, 10:39:29 PM
A myth! Plenty of them change hands for considerably less!
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Post by: Rob Dobie on July 07, 2011, 10:55:36 PM
What, like Peels changing hands for £500 and I.Cs for £1?  ;D
Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: Stuart Cyphus on July 07, 2011, 11:02:58 PM

What, like Peels changing hands for £500 and I.Cs for £1?  ;D


   8)
Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: P50 on July 08, 2011, 06:41:40 AM
apart from those who dont have £15k burning a hole in their pocket



Err?,   check the OP's original postings.

He doesn't state "I have 80 quid and want a microcar". Cost is not mentioned once.  Although a sub 30mph two mile journey and mentionig Bambis and Cursors does indicate budget.

However a KR once set up is the best all round micro for daily work.   Pretty much everything else will be more of a daily chore.

The Peel's  can go 40mph flat out on the flat.  A Cursor circa 28 so pretty much deadly as Mr Modern will get very annoyed being held up on his way to work...   
Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: Big Al on July 08, 2011, 07:49:39 AM
The Nobel's a good choice "hold the wheel lightly as the car steers by itself",

Mine certainly did that!
Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: Big Al on July 08, 2011, 07:51:13 AM
A myth! Plenty of them change hands for considerably less!

Would that be a Mythathmitt?
Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: Bob Purton on July 08, 2011, 08:18:42 AM
I guess it would Al!

All I can say to Mr Dobie is what the facts show, plenty of folk are asking 15K and above but very few are getting it, most cars sold recently [even minters] to my knowledge have averaged 12/13K this is in the uk of course, in the usa its another story I believe. Have a look at Ebay completed listings and see all the unsold cars belonging to people with big ideas! A Peel WAS bought recently for less than £500 and are IC's worth a pound? Yes I guess so for the spares! ;D ;D
Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: P50 on July 08, 2011, 09:24:20 AM
I guess it would Al!

All I can say to Mr Dobie is what the facts show, plenty of folk are asking 15K and above but very few are getting it, most cars sold recently [even minters] to my knowledge have averaged 12/13K this is in the uk of course, in the usa its another story I believe. Have a look at Ebay completed listings and see all the unsold cars belonging to people with big ideas! A Peel WAS bought recently for less than £500 and are IC's worth a pound? Yes I guess so for the spares! ;D ;D

If you're referring to the Trident with no door that was dumped in a back garden then that's hardly an indicator to value!  The old girl didn't know what she had!  Under £500. Do me a favour!   Like finding a Faberge egg at a bootsale and saying you can get one for a tenner.  That's the dream.  The very few that may be left undiscovered of that ilk will go on Evilbay and lilkely be pulled before they finish.

Real world prices please.  Not aspirations.     


Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: richard on July 08, 2011, 10:06:54 AM
funny isnt it whenever i mention Bond there's no interest at all but seriously why ? it seems there ALMOST as bad as Reliants ( like red rag to a bull Dan )  ;D
Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: Daniel Rodd on July 08, 2011, 11:44:07 AM
lol,i couldnt decided to set off up to yorkshire (180 miles) this afternoon,with a time of around 3 hours in a micro,can in my reliant ;) no trailers required.

bonds have always been at the bottom of the micro scale,but as the price of the others push people out of the market,their day will come
Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: Bob Purton on July 08, 2011, 02:14:39 PM
I guess it would Al!

All I can say to Mr Dobie is what the facts show, plenty of folk are asking 15K and above but very few are getting it, most cars sold recently [even minters] to my knowledge have averaged 12/13K this is in the uk of course, in the usa its another story I believe. Have a look at Ebay completed listings and see all the unsold cars belonging to people with big ideas! A Peel WAS bought recently for less than £500 and are IC's worth a pound? Yes I guess so for the spares! ;D ;D

If you're referring to the Trident with no door that was dumped in a back garden then that's hardly an indicator to value!  The old girl didn't know what she had!  Under £500. Do me a favour!   Like finding a Faberge egg at a bootsale and saying you can get one for a tenner.  That's the dream.  The very few that may be left undiscovered of that ilk will go on Evilbay and lilkely be pulled before they finish.

Real world prices please.  Not aspirations.     

I Know I know Perry, I just threw that in because I knew you would chirp up! It is true though never the less but not representative. The serious bit was about KR200 prices which I believe have taken a dip in recent months. It no good asking yourself as you are only good at talking up the prices of the cars you happen to own!! :D :D

Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: richard on July 08, 2011, 03:35:21 PM
did you really have nothing to say on it bob ?
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Post by: Big Al on July 08, 2011, 05:55:40 PM
Ah light relief from collating legal files now it all kicks off just when I was to be away!

Yep the market has softened. What was listed up to £15k is now more likely £12.5k but that flies in the face of what many people wish to see. Investment or purchase, two differing things, but in both cases buying well is an advantage. The eBay experience really tells you the trade values these days as much is sold off site by using eBay as an advertising medium and then there are the classified ads. Those prices tend to be for stronger money but it sifts out the better quality stuff leaving anyone needing to sell with the last minute eBay bidders. There will be many cars sat awaiting a buyer at strong money I think. Only the market can decide if that is a realistic strategy. But in that British market with the export market stronger it is clear what is happening over time. We haemorrhage our best and rarest cars. To an extent they are being replaced but much of the incoming is speculative or cheaper stuff like the French Fridges. I would say a nice Bond offers a good purchase at the moment and they are mostly usable and are no longer the bottom rung of microdom. I cannot see them getting cheaper, whereas overheated cars I can. How about a Velorex, more than adequate performance by Jawa, clearly a micro and so different from anything else. About the same value as a Bond Bug, indeed I would do you a swap!
Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: Bob Purton on July 08, 2011, 07:32:33 PM
Richard, I did reply but it somehow ended up in the quotation box at the bottom!

Al, I think you are spot on, 12.5K is about it at the moment.
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Post by: adi on July 09, 2011, 02:15:10 AM
Hahaha.

RUMCAR - The only place in the world where somebody could say ''Main-stream bubble car''.
Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: Barry on July 09, 2011, 09:52:39 AM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MESSERSCHMITT-SILVER-/190551806452?_trksid=e11010.m8&_trkparms=algo%3DMW%26its%3DI%252BC%26itu%3DUCC%26otn%3D4%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D1216379036345970769
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Post by: Bob Purton on July 09, 2011, 06:20:18 PM
That silver job looks a really nice car. Will be interesting to see if it sells.
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Post by: Big Al on July 10, 2011, 08:31:17 AM
The slightly none original Peacehaven early Schmitt is a more interesting car. Pity it is not quite right but when it was restored it was probably considered very fine. If this is the Dave Easter car it is something like Chassis 50251, earliest Brit car. I had 50259 which was next. I think it will be ranked fifth oldest now.
Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: Bob Purton on July 11, 2011, 07:29:53 PM
Well the silver KR200 on ebay, a finer example as you could ever ever wish see ground to a halt at £11,420 which kind of reinforces what Al and I said about the KR ceiling at the moment. The chancers who want over the odds are just not getting there way. Asking is one thing, getting is another! Personally I'm all for lower values as it puts the cars back into the hands of enthusiasts rather than investor/collectors.
Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: Barry on July 11, 2011, 08:07:56 PM
So Bob.
Is your old yellow one better or worst than the silver one and will they all end up in America?
Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: Bob Purton on July 11, 2011, 09:23:36 PM
Better of coarse but then again I'm bias! :D I prefer the earlier moustache faced ones with the more elegant fittings I have noticed they do fetch a little more. My opinion is this is only a blip due to the financial crisis and that they will soar again in the near future. We have to remember that it was only about three years ago that they were sub 10k. Just my opinion. I dare say someone will put me right. ::)
Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: Big Al on July 12, 2011, 08:18:26 AM
  Difficult to see where values are going. We have the fact there is nothing worth investing in much that does not involve idiots with clipboards or tax/fees taking the cream. Classic cars are still relatively free of both and the area was offering a good return. However the slump in ready cash is beginning to hurt that, particularly for those who did not buy wisely. What with Europe determined to follow the rainbow on the Euro and drive us all bankrupt in the process it is very hard to see the economy improving soon. I believe we have a further crash to negotiate. At the moment I think you will see the Italian classic market fall out, for instance. We have the signs after it has been performing strongly. Their economic lie is catching up with them now just as Ireland, Portugal, Greece and Spain before them. The Germans and French cannot support all these failing states and have to except a change in policy is inevitable, I think their populations want this, and the great Euro socialist experiment has failed, as it always was. That means turmoil. This places the good classic cars firmly in the hands of those with disposable income. For them classic cars are great investments transferable over borders without to much interference unlike moving cash now. Sadly that is not likely to help the ordinary bloke with a job who is being hit from all sides and expected to pay for the mess these idiots have created. I therefore feel that specifically for Schmitts the market will stabilise and the cars continue to pass from drivers to collectors. The majority of them will not attend rallies leaving the older 'low born' enthusiasts with a limited social and rally scene struggling to keep activity going as they loose the key creative folk who are responsible for making most of the parts, over time. Hard to replace such experience as the younger/newer generation is short on practical and engineering skills. The parts themselves are set to become very expensive. So I do not see Schmitts being affordable as they used to be previously. The price will climb with well documented original and well restored cars leading the way much in the way Morgans have performed. I think the difference will be in usage.
  In a nutshell, if you want a schmitt buy one and get the parts you will need to run it now unless you are likely to become wealthier. This unless tariff barriers are set to net tax from moving classic cars around.
  I am less concerned with the values of other microcars but it would seem that in many cases it is the collectors who are driving the prices as there are not the cars to go round. I can only assume, due to the above argument, that this will continue but with quality being the key. A pile of junk will remain that until a skilled person can make it collectable. I would generalise that Berkeley, Isetta, Trienkel etc will behave as BSA do to Morgan. That is they are seen as the cheaper option or stepping stone to the brand leader. This is not meant as a put down, I like Trienkels and think they could have been the best car of the bunch if things had fallen slightly differently. This view is thus looking a bit jaundiced in terms of sociable rally meetings and so on.
  Discuss, as my old Masters used to say!
Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: Barry on July 12, 2011, 09:30:33 AM
There is another register called RCMcars.  It is mainly for Messerschmitts. 
It is unusual that the most common microcar is the most desirable but there are other good reasons for this.
I still prefer the unusual cars, many of which are not prohibitively expensive.  Unfortunately few are that good for transport.
I don't include my Sans Permis cars in the equation because they are not practical in the UK.
The most desirable cars seem to be the ones that were most practical and therefore successful. 
They can still be driven to and from an event and were, in there day, used for regular transport.
In 1981 I was using a 1963 Isetta for my everyday commute and general running around.  A 160 mile round trip to my parents was not unknown.
It is inevitable that the good cars will find there way into collections, never to be driven.  Just an investment or someones interest in design rather than driving?
The good side is that as the value rises it becomes economical to restore cars which would have rotted in a lock-up somewhere.



Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: Jonathan Poll on July 12, 2011, 10:14:32 AM
Hi

I'm new to the forum and am interested in getting a micro car I have in the past owned, restored and ran an Isetta 300 but now would like to get back into the micro car scene, but I would really like a smaller car, either a Bambi or Replicar something most people turn there noses up at because they are ugly and 70's-80's but What I could do with is some advise on these and other similar cars. what to buy, how much and were?

thanks in anticipation


Craig

Hi, and welcome to the forum!

People would probably think I am going to say "Buy a Nobel!", but I'm not, I've only driven it twice...
I cant really tell you whats good and not good, since I am also very new to the cars, (I am 14 years old, and only own 1 car), so I will tell you what cars my dad likes. Messerschmitt kr200's are great, and very reliable, and you can easily get parts for them (but can be costy!). Dont bother thinking about kr175's, my dad says there **** to drive!

If you want it to be a bit smaller, how about another Isetta?
Otherwoise, Goggomobils are great fun!

I guess #I havent really been clear, but at least I gave my opinion!

Jonathan
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Post by: Jean on July 12, 2011, 07:57:26 PM
There is another register called RCMcars.
I am intrigued when I googled RCMCars it seemed to be a Japanese car sales site or have I got the wrong one?  Who runs the RCMcars register?  Jean
Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: Barry on July 12, 2011, 08:14:49 PM
Sorry Jean.  Just my little joke for other Messerschmitt owners - RCMCars is the fictitious name for the Register of Common Microcars.

Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: richard on July 12, 2011, 09:52:51 PM
i think i have the answer to the question  ;) what more could you want ?
Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: Fighting Robot man on July 13, 2011, 12:35:49 PM
Hi

Either a Bambi or Replicar something most people turn there noses up at because they are ugly and 70's-80's but What I could do with is some advise on these and other similar cars. what to buy, how much and were?

thanks in anticipation


Craig

Any other small 70's-80's cars you can think of?
Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: Stuart Cyphus on July 13, 2011, 01:12:19 PM

Any other small 70's-80's cars you can think of?



 Reliants!    ;)
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Post by: blob on July 13, 2011, 02:43:54 PM
Sounds like you want something French, how about a Flipper!
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Post by: Barry on July 13, 2011, 03:56:08 PM
I like my Flipper but out on UK roads???
A better french car would be a Ligier.  The JS4 only has a 50cc engine but later models had a Ducati 430cc diesel or JS8 with a 125cc B.C.B engine.
The build and suspension is up to the faster speed - not so the Flipper or most other French 50cc cars.  So no point squeezing a big engine in any of them.
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Post by: Big Al on July 13, 2011, 06:09:01 PM

Any other small 70's-80's cars you can think of?



 Reliants!    ;)

Very small Hymers!

Seriously the French stuff is the inexpensive route with quite a variety of things. The Microcar/Ligier/Axiam imports are very cheap and come registered. Personally I hated my Ligier but it is worth a look in case one fits the bill. You could buy my Church Pod.
Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: Fighting Robot man on July 13, 2011, 06:33:58 PM
I have a 750 bug and don't get on with it at the moment I would like and older Bond but they seem hard to find. I am looking at an electric car made in the eighties called Mini EL city 35+mph and 35+mile range. what do you think?


(http://i569.photobucket.com/albums/ss139/Colliass/eleccar.jpg?t=1310578325)
Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: Barry on July 13, 2011, 06:47:36 PM
I like it.  Would be a nice one to have and not too hard to make it float!
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Post by: Rob Dobie on July 13, 2011, 07:39:56 PM
Mini EL city 35+mph and 35+mile range. what do you think?

It looks like a Sinclair C5's big sister!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Rusty Chrome (Malcolm Parker) on July 13, 2011, 11:25:42 PM
There's a City EL for sale here with a former owner almost as famous as Elvis http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C182562 (http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C182562)

 and there are usually a few on the German ebay site.

http://cgi.ebay.de/CityEL-Elektroauto-Cabrio-TUV-07-2013-/130545500144?pt=Automobile&hash=item1e651e3ff0 (http://cgi.ebay.de/CityEL-Elektroauto-Cabrio-TUV-07-2013-/130545500144?pt=Automobile&hash=item1e651e3ff0)

http://cgi.ebay.de/Elektrofahrzeug-City-EL-Fun-Fact-Four-36V-100Ah-/110713567281?pt=Automobile&hash=item19c70af831 (http://cgi.ebay.de/Elektrofahrzeug-City-EL-Fun-Fact-Four-36V-100Ah-/110713567281?pt=Automobile&hash=item19c70af831)

http://cgi.ebay.de/Elektroauto-CityEL-Cabrio-City-El-TUV-neu-Bj-2001-/280708096750?pt=Automobile&hash=item415b81a2ee (http://cgi.ebay.de/Elektroauto-CityEL-Cabrio-City-El-TUV-neu-Bj-2001-/280708096750?pt=Automobile&hash=item415b81a2ee)

http://cgi.ebay.de/City-EL-Targa-42V-LiFeYPo4-BMS-/120746681741?pt=Automobile&hash=item1c1d10258d (http://cgi.ebay.de/City-EL-Targa-42V-LiFeYPo4-BMS-/120746681741?pt=Automobile&hash=item1c1d10258d)

http://cgi.ebay.de/HINGUCKER-City-EL-Cabrio-Elektroauto-TOP-Zustand-/270781776696?pt=Automobile&hash=item3f0bda0338 (http://cgi.ebay.de/HINGUCKER-City-EL-Cabrio-Elektroauto-TOP-Zustand-/270781776696?pt=Automobile&hash=item3f0bda0338)
Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: Stuart Cyphus on July 13, 2011, 11:43:36 PM

There's a City EL for sale here with a former owner almost as famous as Elvis


 But I've never owned a City-EL!  Oh hang on, you mean.....      ;)
Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: Big Al on July 14, 2011, 08:02:50 AM
MIni El, yes an interesting machine and I believe used as the carryall vehicles at the Barcelona Olympics amongst other things. I have tried buying several but they remain stubbornly valued. That would suggest a safe buy but you need to like Leccy cars. I would certainly not put you off one.
Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: Barry on July 14, 2011, 08:05:01 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CityEl

The newer versions seem the best bet.
Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: Jonathan Poll on July 14, 2011, 11:14:06 AM
Sounds like you want something French, how about a Flipper!

Not french... Remember, Franch are the ones who made the rhd peugots, the ones that the passenger vcan push on the floorpan, and it activates the brakes (this is true!)
Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: Barry on July 14, 2011, 11:32:47 AM
Don't tell my wife that there is such a car available - brakes on her side! - and don't tell me they made one with two steering wheels?

Messerschmitt or Inter is the answer - includes an 8 stone sat nav in the back seat!
Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: blob on July 14, 2011, 12:08:20 PM
Not all City-El's are electric. Wasn't there a diesel?
Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: golo2 on July 14, 2011, 06:53:25 PM
From the recent posts and no further contact I guess you have gone off owning a Cursor
I waited a couple of weeks will now consider other possible owners

Surprised of Abingdon
Title: Re: What would you sugest?
Post by: AndrewG on July 15, 2011, 06:31:59 PM
Remember, Franch are the ones who made the rhd peugots, the ones that the passenger vcan push on the floorpan, and it activates the brakes (this is true!)
Not half as exciting as the very early VW Passats (1980s) where the passenger could press on their side of the floorpan and stop the brakes working.  :o