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General Category => Unusual Microcar Discussion => Topic started by: DrewS on September 08, 2011, 07:26:58 PM

Title: What Ho! A spiffing Good Video from Pathe
Post by: DrewS on September 08, 2011, 07:26:58 PM
Just discovered the fantastic British Pathe achieve site, some interesting footage on there, some may have already seen these so apologises if you have.....

http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=1410 - not sure about driving a boat with an isetta engine!!! But still spiffing new fangled old boy!!


http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=34742


http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=35910 .... a jolly spiffing race. A Treinkel with MPHW advertising...


http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=35424 - A new fangled Velam/ Iso/ Early BMW isetta at 17 seconds I'm sure the eagle eyed out there will be able to identify which... which would be jolly spiffing indeed!!! My monies on Velam with the location being La Harve



http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=48569 - A new fangled German car that looks like a plane... that will never catch on old boy!!!


http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=876

Title: Re: What Ho! A spiffing Good Video from Pathe
Post by: Rusty Chrome (Malcolm Parker) on September 08, 2011, 07:43:03 PM
Not really microcar (although there is an Isetta near the end) but definitely What Ho!

http://youtu.be/JE82FZpq0qM (http://youtu.be/JE82FZpq0qM)
Title: Re: What Ho! A spiffing Good Video from Pathe
Post by: Jonathan Poll on September 08, 2011, 08:24:08 PM
Just discovered the fantastic British Pathe achieve site, some interesting footage on there, some may have already seen these so apologises if you have.....

http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=1410 - not sure about driving a boat with an isetta engine!!! But still spiffing new fangled old boy!!


http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=34742


http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=35910 .... a jolly spiffing race. A Treinkel with MPHW advertising...


http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=35424 - A new fangled Velam/ Iso/ Early BMW isetta at 17 seconds I'm sure the eagle eyed out there will be able to identify which... which would be jolly spiffing indeed!!! My monies on Velam with the location being La Harve



http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=48569 - A new fangled German car that looks like a plane... that will never catch on old boy!!!


http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=876



Great! I uploaded the Nobel one on my youtube (obviously ;) ), Ive seen the TG at the auto show, but no others!

The MPHW one is interesting, we want to re do the original MPHW rally!
Title: Re: What Ho! A spiffing Good Video from Pathe
Post by: marcus on September 08, 2011, 09:02:12 PM
I say, what rather spiffing moving pictures, and how awfully jolly decent of you to post them here, old boy!

The TG 500 looks particularly fine.
Title: Re: What Ho! A spiffing Good Video from Pathe
Post by: blob on September 09, 2011, 07:51:10 AM
Nice to see renewed interest in the Pathe Archive, newer members won't know this but I rigorously search the archive a few years back and compiled my findings here: http://s286.photobucket.com/home/micr0film


Jonathon recently posted the Nobel Vicky clip which was my first find but since then have discovered loads more, including another Nobel clip, for those interested my original RUM post is here: http://www.rumcars.org/forum/index.php?topic=1331.0
Title: Re: What Ho! A spiffing Good Video from Pathe
Post by: marcus on September 09, 2011, 08:06:07 AM
^ Yup, I remember your ones! It's great to see these Pathe films, each one with its own historical interest: cars, trucks, buses & coaches, motorcycles, and buildings and road layout. Plus old shop names which have gone.

That fellow in the red Triumph Herald was an idiot!
Title: Re: What Ho! A spiffing Good Video from Pathe
Post by: Big Al on September 09, 2011, 08:31:01 AM
A timely film of Calne etc as this was where the National was held. Being from this part of the country I know this road well so all rather interesting. It would be possible to do a modern version attempting the same route. Not sure there is quite enough meat to pull it off into something really watchable though.

The Isetta is a Vellam.
Title: Re: What Ho! A spiffing Good Video from Pathe
Post by: Jonathan Poll on September 09, 2011, 12:13:36 PM
Nice to see renewed interest in the Pathe Archive, newer members won't know this but I rigorously search the archive a few years back and compiled my findings here: http://s286.photobucket.com/home/micr0film


Jonathon recently posted the Nobel Vicky clip which was my first find but since then have discovered loads more, including another Nobel clip, for those interested my original RUM post is here: http://www.rumcars.org/forum/index.php?topic=1331.0

Ive seen it before ;)

The one you called "Unkown ?" seems to be a rolux, but with a different rear end, so maybe a proto?
Title: Re: What Ho! A spiffing Good Video from Pathe
Post by: blob on September 09, 2011, 01:17:44 PM
Thanks I wasn't sure, anyone else want figure out the other unknown ones? Unfortunately Pathe has since upgraded their site, with previews only available to download at cost since they want you to view everything on site, pity about the excessive advertising though. Just as well I compiled these for anyone to download, crap quality but free!

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Ive seen it before

I like this one: http://s286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/micr0film/Films%20containing%20Microcars/?action=view&current=Nobel200.mp4  can't make out the reg, wonder if it's still about?

Title: Re: What Ho! A spiffing Good Video from Pathe
Post by: Jonathan Poll on September 09, 2011, 01:26:51 PM
Thanks I wasn't sure, anyone else want figure out the other unknown ones? Unfortunately Pathe has since upgraded their site, with previews only available to download at cost since they want you to view everything on site, pity about the excessive advertising though. Just as well I compiled these for anyone to download, crap quality but free!

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Ive seen it before

I like this one: http://s286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/micr0film/Films%20containing%20Microcars/?action=view&current=Nobel200.mp4  can't make out the reg, wonder if it's still about?



Yeah, I saw it a while back on your page without realising it was yours!
Title: Re: What Ho! A spiffing Good Video from Pathe
Post by: marcus on September 09, 2011, 01:35:07 PM
I like the footage of Eyles driving through Chippenham. I have driven along that very road on my drum car.
Title: Re: What Ho! A spiffing Good Video from Pathe
Post by: blob on September 09, 2011, 01:36:01 PM
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Yeah, I saw it a while back

I love that clip anyway regardless of the Nobel. There are still more clips waiting to be discovered, I know for a fact there is a tourist information film with a red Berkeley driving round a Greek Island, lost the link when the site upgraded and have been after it ever since, there are also some Gordon ones, Jean has a VHS copy of the test drve, though I have yet to find it online, happy hunting.  ;D
Title: Re: What Ho! A spiffing Good Video from Pathe
Post by: Scootacar_mk1 on September 09, 2011, 06:07:00 PM
http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=30212

never seen this messerschmitt before?!
Title: Re: What Ho! A spiffing Good Video from Pathe
Post by: Jonathan Poll on September 09, 2011, 08:29:56 PM
http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=30212

never seen this messerschmitt before?!

Lol, it looms like the bottom half of an Avolette!

I recognise it... They made a few Mokuli lookalikes, I think 3 models.

FMr also made a Go Kart! I need to get one ;) Wynford found one at Mannheim I think!
Title: Re: What Ho! A spiffing Good Video from Pathe
Post by: Big Al on September 10, 2011, 09:29:13 AM
The FMR Kart was a great find and includes modified bits of KR200 and Tiger. It ran on one or two ILO engines as was the practice in the early days. The big problem Wynford had was to find the correct transfer casing and gearing for the units so as to have a matched set. The strange thing about the finding of the Kart was that many Schmitters saw it but assumed it was home made. It was only on consulting Heiner Plake (spelling) that we were convinced it should be bought. Later the word went out and Hieko made a very serious attempt to buy the Kart but Wynford is a serious FMR/Sachs collector too so no deal was done between the two of them. I still await the Tro-Kart / FMR Kart showdown. I have a Progress Kart but I have never worked out if this is linked to the micro/scooter Progress sources.
Title: Re: What Ho! A spiffing Good Video from Pathe
Post by: Jonathan Poll on September 10, 2011, 04:38:28 PM
The FMR Kart was a great find and includes modified bits of KR200 and Tiger. It ran on one or two ILO engines as was the practice in the early days. The big problem Wynford had was to find the correct transfer casing and gearing for the units so as to have a matched set. The strange thing about the finding of the Kart was that many Schmitters saw it but assumed it was home made. It was only on consulting Heiner Plake (spelling) that we were convinced it should be bought. Later the word went out and Hieko made a very serious attempt to buy the Kart but Wynford is a serious FMR/Sachs collector too so no deal was done between the two of them. I still await the Tro-Kart / FMR Kart showdown. I have a Progress Kart but I have never worked out if this is linked to the micro/scooter Progress sources.


I have a Messerschmitt RSM kart, still being resotred. My dad also has a weird FMR mower. I will have to send photos one ofn these days... Wonder if they can also be RUM'ed, since there not road legal and where never built for it.

JP
Title: Re: What Ho! A spiffing Good Video from Pathe
Post by: Jean on September 10, 2011, 06:53:47 PM
Jonathan, I can see no reason why your vehicles cannot be Rum'd as you put it.  They may not be road legal but they are of sufficiently rare and of interest to make an exception I feel.  After all we have a motorised wheelbarrow and a drum car on the Register! Send the details to Alastair with some decent pictures.  Jean
Title: Re: What Ho! A spiffing Good Video from Pathe
Post by: Chris Thomas on September 13, 2011, 12:36:07 PM
This is not Pathe and not about microcars but is still of interest

http://www.dump.com/2011/07/15/fascinating-1936-footage-of-car-assembly-line-video/

Note the man belting each chassis twice with his hammer

Chris Thomas
Title: Re: What Ho! A spiffing Good Video from Pathe
Post by: Bob Purton on September 13, 2011, 04:43:00 PM
That's fascinating Chris. Have a look at this one though on the Model T ford, note how they made the wooden spoke wheels and at the end see what rough terrain the car could handle. Amazing! It also dispels some rubbish that both Steven Fry and Clarkson spouted recently on TV [QI] about the old saying" Any colour so long as its black". Fry claims Henry never said it [not what his autobiography says] and Clarkson said that black wasn't even an option, on this early film they Are ALL black!

http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?video_id=S4KrIMZpwCY
Title: Re: What Ho! A spiffing Good Video from Pathe
Post by: mharrell on September 13, 2011, 06:53:03 PM
Note the man belting each chassis twice with his hammer

Among my other vices I own a disassembled Ford Skyliner.  To achieve clearance for the retracted top, the rear wheel wells were bashed into shape by a guy on the assembly line wielding a big hammer.  The results look like this after being covered with a pad for cushioning:

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3147/2866501685_e908b8f370.jpg)

More than one overenthusiastic restorer has carefully straightened the dents, only later to find it necessary to crawl into the trunk with a big hammer....
Title: Re: What Ho! A spiffing Good Video from Pathe
Post by: Big Al on September 14, 2011, 09:04:46 AM
Similar to the Goggo Dart. It has a crease on the rear bulkhead applied by a special hammer to allow clearance. Several Darts have been carefully restored without this dent and at least one had the expensive repair re-dented to match the original on finding out it was incorrect. Not all Goggo floorpans are the same!
Title: Re: What Ho! A spiffing Good Video from Pathe
Post by: blob on September 23, 2011, 12:13:55 AM
Ok, so the last time I saw this one I thought it was being driven around a Greek isle, alas only Jersey. Berkeley J15552 where are you now? Appears 5.10-6.04

http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=81930
Title: Re: What Ho! A spiffing Good Video from Pathe
Post by: richard on September 23, 2011, 09:48:47 AM
great bit of film . wish could find one of my cars on film - though i do have that bit of gordon on movietone where the car appears to take off over bumpy ground .no idea how to post it on here though :-[
Title: Re: What Ho! A spiffing Good Video from Pathe
Post by: Big Al on September 23, 2011, 10:39:39 AM
THere is a Gordon parked in a street scene of a British Elstree movie but I am afraid I do not recall which one.
Title: Re: What Ho! A spiffing Good Video from Pathe
Post by: richard on September 25, 2011, 05:05:47 PM
has everyone seen this pathe bit   http://wn.com/Br%C3%BCtsch very short on tg500 and mopetta

WOOPS JUST SEEN DrewS POSTED IT AT THE BEGINNING _ must stop drinking :P
Title: Re: What Ho! A spiffing Good Video from Pathe
Post by: Jonathan Poll on September 25, 2011, 05:54:24 PM
has everyone seen this pathe bit   http://wn.com/Br%C3%BCtsch very short on tg500 and mopetta

WOOPS JUST SEEN DrewS POSTED IT AT THE BEGINNING _ must stop drinking :P

I always get told to think befroe I say something... Somehow, I never do, and I don't seem to be the only one ;)
Title: Re: What Ho! A spiffing Good Video from Pathe
Post by: Rusty Chrome (Malcolm Parker) on November 14, 2011, 08:27:35 PM
I got sent a link to the new MovieTone website today

http://www.movietone.com (http://www.movietone.com)

Not sure if it has any videos that weren't on the Pathe site, but it does have the one of the Bond Mark C and Gordon(only three farthings a mile)  from the 1954 Cycle and Motor-Cycle show at Earls Court.

I can't post a direct link as it comes up as a javascript pop-up
Title: Re: What Ho! A spiffing Good Video from Pathe
Post by: Jonathan Poll on November 14, 2011, 08:41:51 PM
I got sent a link to the new MovieTone website today

http://www.movietone.com (http://www.movietone.com)

Not sure if it has any videos that weren't on the Pathe site, but it does have the one of the Bond Mark C and Gordon(only three farthings a mile)  from the 1954 Cycle and Motor-Cycle show at Earls Court.

I can't post a direct link as it comes up as a javascript pop-up

Site doesnt work over here.