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Title: Villiers air filter wanted.
Post by: Bob Purton on May 14, 2012, 02:19:48 PM
Hi all. I'm in need of a villiers air filter for an S25 carb but its the type that has a butterfly choke section in between the carb body and the filter. Not the common type that clips straight onto the carb. Can anyone help please?
Title: Re: Villiers air filter wanted.
Post by: richard on May 16, 2012, 07:18:00 PM
hi bob . if this is what your after a pic might help - if not it won't  :)
Title: Re: Villiers air filter wanted.
Post by: richard on May 16, 2012, 07:20:19 PM
this could be more of the same helpful - or not
Title: Re: Villiers air filter wanted.
Post by: Bob Purton on May 16, 2012, 10:22:35 PM
Its the one in the first picture Richard. I know this because I did have it but gave it to someone restoring a frisky last year as they needed it more that I did at the time. I'm just hoping someone can return the favour, I'm quite happy to pay though!
Title: Re: Villiers air filter wanted.
Post by: Jonathan Poll on May 16, 2012, 10:38:17 PM
Its the one in the first picture Richard. I know this because I did have it but gave it to someone restoring a frisky last year as they needed it more that I did at the time. I'm just hoping someone can return the favour, I'm quite happy to pay though!

We only have spare one like the 2nd pic, but I may use it on my mower, depends what other pieces I need.

While on the subject, I am looking for a few villiers parts: Carburettor "lid", clutch pushrods, dynastart rubber (one that fits in casing), clutch center springs or late type center.

Also, anyonez know how to wire up a fwd+rev dynastart on the villiers engines?

If I find a choke Bob, I will tell you.

JP
Title: Re: Villiers air filter wanted.
Post by: richard on May 17, 2012, 07:30:18 AM
an illusion boys both the pic from the Gordon manual and the photo of my Gordon filter are the same device . will keep an eye out Bob
Title: Re: Villiers air filter wanted.
Post by: Bob Purton on May 17, 2012, 08:11:54 AM
Ahh, the second pic must be the first one but with an outer cover. I can buy a modern one for a fiver if I have to but thought it would be nice to have the right one.
Jonathan, I dont need the choke, just the filter.
Title: Re: Villiers air filter wanted.
Post by: blob on May 17, 2012, 10:16:32 AM
At last a picture, been looking on the net for a photo of the thing, will have to scour Beaulieu for one then!

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thought it would be nice to have the right one.

... always better to have the right one Bob, so whilst on the subject what's the advantage of this design? Is it simply to aid better airflow?
Title: Re: Villiers air filter wanted.
Post by: Bob Purton on May 17, 2012, 01:20:05 PM
I guess the many pleats of material form a larger surface area but in a compact unit. Easier to draw air though and takes longer to clog up?
Title: Re: Villiers air filter wanted.
Post by: richard on May 17, 2012, 05:15:22 PM
dont know about covers . the manual is an artists impression the photo is reality . no "material " its all steel mesh
Title: Re: Villiers air filter wanted.
Post by: Bob Purton on May 17, 2012, 09:47:21 PM
Yes, steel mesh material!
Title: Re: Villiers air filter wanted.
Post by: Big Al on May 18, 2012, 09:51:12 AM
At last a picture, been looking on the net for a photo of the thing, will have to scour Beaulieu for one then!

Use Beaulieu pads to clean your air!
Title: Re: Villiers air filter wanted.
Post by: Big Al on May 18, 2012, 10:00:31 AM
Yes, steel mesh material!

Its still a mesh if you get the wrong one.

Nothing wrong with Wolverhampton's version of K and N high performance filter material. Just add oil is the motto for the black countries finest products. Only a whimp likes an oil free floor in his garage or shed. That's why its the black country, perhaps.
Title: Re: Villiers air filter wanted.
Post by: Bob Purton on May 29, 2012, 10:10:01 PM
Here is a picture of the air filter I'm looking for. Attached to an 11e engine. There must be one out there somewhere. It fits over a 40mm collar.
Title: Re: Villiers air filter wanted.
Post by: richard on May 29, 2012, 10:14:14 PM
obviously same size connection , to the butterfly choke ,as the gordon one but it is very different being more " pancake" than cylindrical - would it be a trials item i wonder ? have you tried villiers spares - they seem know everything . good blokes too !
Title: Re: Villiers air filter wanted.
Post by: john Meadows on May 30, 2012, 06:26:34 PM
Johnathan - did you get sorted re wire up forward / rev Dynastart?

Which villiers is it

John
Title: Re: Villiers air filter wanted.
Post by: Jonathan Poll on May 30, 2012, 08:23:25 PM
Hi John,

  No, I havent yet...

Its the villiers 9e.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/546352_144327412359289_100003460947898_71308_355105275_n.jpg)

I'll have to turn the barrel around to fit with the aircooled casing, but then it will have to be a 200 not 250.

I guess you would know, if its the same engine as frisky. Does it use the same black box as a schmitt? Do you have any wiring plans?

Thanks, JP
Title: Re: Villiers air filter wanted.
Post by: richard on May 30, 2012, 08:42:55 PM
nice to see the special tools are at hand - A RUDDY GREAT STILSON  :D
Title: Re: Villiers air filter wanted.
Post by: Jonathan Poll on May 30, 2012, 10:11:41 PM
nice to see the special tools are at hand - A RUDDY GREAT STILSON  :D

Well, I needed that stilson pipe wrench to see if it was a sequential or positive stop gearbox ;)

Hammer for removing crank. I would never use any big tools if something is stuck  ;D
Title: Re: Villiers air filter wanted.
Post by: richard on May 30, 2012, 10:26:16 PM
you mean you used it to change from positive to sequential - anyway how did you spell that right !!!  ;)
Title: Re: Villiers air filter wanted.
Post by: Big Al on May 30, 2012, 11:32:49 PM
I prefer sequintual, nice and sparkly gear. Oooh! you can rev me up anytime, cheeky!
Title: Re: Villiers air filter wanted.
Post by: Jonathan Poll on May 31, 2012, 06:29:07 AM
you mean you used it to change from positive to sequential - anyway how did you spell that right !!!  ;)

I didnt change the insides, I just didnt know how to tell the gearboxes apart unless I actually moved the gearlever! My dad didnt want me to use positive stop, so I had to find a sequential one.

Hehe I usually know how to spell words, its just that I type to fast!
Title: Re: Villiers air filter wanted.
Post by: richard on May 31, 2012, 06:35:23 AM
too not to  :D alot better than my french though ;)
Title: Re: Villiers air filter wanted.
Post by: Big Al on May 31, 2012, 07:55:54 AM
Quote from: Jonathan Poll link=topic=3288.msg22523#msg22523 date=1338442147

Hehe I usually know how to spell words, its just that I type to fast!
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Speed triping?
Title: Re: Villiers air filter wanted.
Post by: Scootacar_mk1 on June 24, 2012, 11:34:46 AM
back on subject....!!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VILLIERS-BRASS-AIR-FILTER-for-VINTAGE-CLASSIC-MOTORCYCLE-Stationary-Engine?item=190691812913&cmd=ViewItem&_trksid=p5197.m185&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC.NPJS%26itu%3DI%252BUA%26otn%3D12%26pmod%3D251086739421%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D135332159697840580

Title: Re: Villiers air filter wanted.
Post by: richard on June 24, 2012, 12:34:29 PM
certainly looks like my gordon one , but mines not brass . quite a price though i would think of finding one much cheaper - but i haven't yet  ;)

just checked and it's exactly the same as the Gordon but mines still not  made of brass. made by coopers
Title: Re: Villiers air filter wanted.
Post by: Big Al on June 25, 2012, 09:20:01 AM
I feel a comment on Gordons and stationary engines is a bit below the belt.

Surely coopers traditionally make barrels? The modern world is such a complicated place where no one sticks to their trade. Mind you a flick through the 'phone book did not yield a Mr Intake or Mr Filter. There are Mr Carpainters who cannot spell though.

Looks like a trip to a few bike jumbles is needed. Yonks since I went to Stafford, that was the trip to buy the Goggo Coupe now driving with Mike O'Balance. The days you could still buy microcars for £280 and find massed Siba bits in the autojumble! Hey ho.