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Title: Siba black box on ebay
Post by: richard on October 22, 2012, 07:29:32 PM
Apparently i have listed my black box in some obscure fashion and it may not be spotted - if you look for messerschmitt siba box you will find it  :o
Title: Re: SIBA BLACK BOX ON EBAY
Post by: steven mandell on October 25, 2012, 04:43:21 PM
I need the box cover for my Scootacar Mark one.  Do you  an extra one per chance?
Title: Re: SIBA BLACK BOX ON EBAY
Post by: Bob Purton on October 25, 2012, 05:48:43 PM
There are so many people looking for lids for there control boxes I'm amazed someone hasn't produced some copies, I would be in the line along with Steven!
Title: Re: SIBA BLACK BOX ON EBAY
Post by: richard on October 25, 2012, 06:01:41 PM
afraid not but there may always be a little man in the orient bashing em out as we speak  :) by the way that is NOT insider knowledge

at the moment mines still cheap enough to buy and sell the bits off seperately and keep the lid  ;) the problem is the £50 postage to u.s. !
Title: Re: SIBA BLACK BOX ON EBAY
Post by: Big Al on October 26, 2012, 08:33:07 AM
They come up on eBay but the price dropped back recently as several senior Schmitters were clearing stock, so there will be a lull. Fortunately a lid is not to critical in the Scootacar. The Schmitt does need one really, despite it fouling most batteries. I think it is another part that ranks in the 'put all the spare ones in the field and there are enough to go round'. Making new ones will merely prove the point so it will be a brave fellow who takes that project on. You could make a replica early lid as that is square tin box not a pressing.
Title: Re: SIBA BLACK BOX ON EBAY
Post by: Jonathan Poll on October 26, 2012, 11:20:38 AM
There are so many people looking for lids for there control boxes I'm amazed someone hasn't produced some copies, I would be in the line along with Steven!

Replicas have been made in the USA, out of fibreglass. My dad ocasionnally sells a restored lid with a new sticker inside (as original).
Title: Re: SIBA BLACK BOX ON EBAY
Post by: Scootacar_mk1 on October 26, 2012, 12:44:04 PM
Someone in the UK on the schmitt forum made some out of fibreglass...he was selling on ebay from memory.
Title: Re: SIBA BLACK BOX ON EBAY
Post by: Jonathan Poll on October 26, 2012, 03:21:44 PM
Someone in the UK on the schmitt forum made some out of fibreglass...he was selling on ebay from memory.

Probably talking about the same person then, I just remembered USA. I must have mixed it up or something
Title: Re: Siba black box on ebay
Post by: richard on October 30, 2012, 01:00:12 PM
Mine ended up in florida after stiff competition from uk and germany
Title: Re: Siba black box on ebay
Post by: Rob Dobie on October 30, 2012, 02:30:56 PM
£510 ending from a start of 99p. Not bad for a stiffy.  ;D
Title: Re: Siba black box on ebay
Post by: richard on November 01, 2012, 11:15:27 AM
Took a major hit on postage charged £50 but tracked and signed was £94 !partly cos of value so you can't win
Title: Re: Siba black box on ebay
Post by: Bob Purton on November 01, 2012, 11:34:22 AM
 A record breaking price and still moaning, you dealers are never happy! :D
Title: Re: Siba black box on ebay
Post by: richard on November 01, 2012, 11:41:02 AM
I am not moaning just a word to the wise re possible costs  ;)
Title: Re: Siba black box on ebay
Post by: Rob Dobie on November 01, 2012, 02:25:03 PM
Have a look on http://www.royalmail.com/ before listing on ebay Richard. You can find the exact costs of posting to UK and the rest of the World including all the "extras" before taking your sales to the Post Office. Rob.
Title: Re: Siba black box on ebay
Post by: richard on November 01, 2012, 02:38:47 PM
Thanks. Will do that its the extras that got me nothing at po easy now and the leaflets don't cover much. Insurance is huge and you don't know what an item will sell for . Made a note of the link
Title: Re: Siba black box on ebay
Post by: Bob Purton on November 01, 2012, 05:37:39 PM
Richard,In my line of work I have been sending things abroad for many years, I tend to use Parcel2go quite a lot, they use all the main couriers and there are big savings to be made.
Or have you tried them already?  
Title: Re: Siba black box on ebay
Post by: richard on November 01, 2012, 09:46:00 PM
thanks bob but its just a one off with me - was hoping it would be nice and simple and stay in the u.k.The jlo 3 speed engine thank goodness did stay in the u.k. that weighed 8 kilo for the bottom half only ( the siba box was 3.5 ) i was dreading posting that and most of the enquiries were from sweden
Title: Re: Siba black box on ebay
Post by: Big Al on November 02, 2012, 07:16:34 AM
Cannot see anyone in the UK paying £500 for a black box. Probably struggle for £300. So it was more than likely to go abroad.  The British market is, as it often has done before, lagging behind the values elsewhere for many classics. Funnily enough I have a few black boxes to restore. A discussion with buds asked what I would be asking. £500 bottom value, was the answer. They refused to believe that was achievable. My answer, they are not making anymore and it has to be worth my paid time invested in doing the job. So I was bang on. And before we get into, is it worth it?. I would remind you value and worth are two different quantities. My answer to that is if I did not have a complete car and some bits I would not be looking at doing a Messerschmitt at those prices, and I love the cars. I would be tackling something less valuable. So no different to many a Brit there then, bye bye 'Schmitting as a hobby.

As a dealer you do get shafted by a deal such as above, actually.  The buyers in America would clearly have paid more but had to allow for the expensive postage. Probably a loss of £50 or so to a result selling it in America direct. That potential margin has gone in shipping costs.

Then ask how much of the shipping cost over a few years is down to tax hikes and State trade barriers in additional paperwork. There you have a real estimate of currency adjusted index linked inflation which is running at over 7% and who is mainly responsible. Forget the Local inflation rate on a special Government box of goods selected to keep you happy and pay claimants less money next year in last months figures (hurrah a bit). That 7% is why trade has become difficult, as much of this is on transportation. The answer is clear for Governments, STOP WASTING MONEY. That % is perhaps also the rate we are loosing living standard flushing our future into unproductivity!
Title: Re: Siba black box on ebay
Post by: richard on November 02, 2012, 07:55:34 AM
it is possible that the price went high as it was UNRESTORED  in prime condition .anyway it ended up in u.s. but was only£10 dearer than the u.k. bidder
Title: Re: SIBA BLACK BOX ON EBAY
Post by: robotman on November 07, 2012, 08:56:18 PM
Someone in the UK on the schmitt forum made some out of fibreglass...he was selling on ebay from memory.

Yes I have moulds for fibreglass black boxes and I am uk based. I put them on eBay but nobody seemed interested!
I already supply most rubber parts to Wynford for the MOC and he will be supplying them through the club.
Steve Letchworth