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General Category => Unusual Microcar Discussion => Topic started by: richard on December 23, 2012, 11:41:33 AM

Title: Frisky Sprint Photo
Post by: richard on December 23, 2012, 11:41:33 AM
is this a new photo for you John - great pic - comments please what details can we glean ? LHD RHD etc.
Title: Re: FRISKY SPRINT PHOTO
Post by: marcus on December 23, 2012, 12:00:00 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: Frisky Sprint Photo
Post by: Garybond on December 23, 2012, 02:27:02 PM
It is a Wolverhampton registration 10/58 to 12/58
Title: Re: Frisky Sprint Photo
Post by: Rusty Chrome (Malcolm Parker) on December 23, 2012, 02:48:33 PM
Don't forget to check John's official site

http://www.meadowsfrisky.co.uk/page14.htm (http://www.meadowsfrisky.co.uk/page14.htm)
Title: Re: Frisky Sprint Photo
Post by: richard on December 23, 2012, 05:53:13 PM
ah sorry  :)  thats the problem with posting things - anyway interesting perhaps for some that don't know this one
Title: Re: Frisky Sprint Photo
Post by: Rusty Chrome (Malcolm Parker) on December 23, 2012, 10:46:55 PM
ah sorry  :)  thats the problem with posting things - anyway interesting perhaps for some that don't know this one

Keep posting anyway! It doesn't matter if some of us have seen it before, not everybody will have. Happy Christmas  :)
Title: Re: Frisky Sprint Photo
Post by: Barry on December 24, 2012, 11:00:51 AM
Images of Frisky are here.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/j1yrnj21e69u0o6/_dbZcldnry

Got any you would like to add?

Title: Re: Frisky Sprint Photo
Post by: Mark Green on December 24, 2012, 12:04:21 PM
I will send you some of our Sport when I get them put on my new computer.
Title: Re: Frisky Sprint Photo
Post by: richard on December 24, 2012, 01:24:22 PM
the same but different
Title: Re: Frisky Sprint Photo
Post by: Barry on December 24, 2012, 01:25:36 PM
I will send you some of our Sport when I get them put on my new computer.

That would be good Mark.

If you let me have your email address, I can send you a link so that you can upload them to the photo register yourself.
You will then also have access to all the other microcar car photos.

I don't mind uploading any photos that are available though.

All the best and have a good Christmas holiday.
Title: Re: Frisky Sprint Photo
Post by: Barry on December 24, 2012, 01:31:14 PM
the same but different

I have uploaded your photo onto the photo register under Meadows Frisky.  Not an expert on all marques so is it actually a Meadows Phoenix?  or a Frisky Bug?  or none of these?
Title: Re: Frisky Sprint Photo
Post by: richard on December 24, 2012, 01:44:04 PM
the caption to my last photo was " Beaming it's way round Oulton Park in 1957 in the Phoenix : Egyptian-built by Raymond Flower , it never reached production . " a predecessor to the Meadows Frisky i believe
Title: Re: Frisky Sprint Photo
Post by: richard on December 24, 2012, 02:00:08 PM
never been here before  nice frisky stuff

http://www.magiccarpics.co.uk/search/index.php?makeID=401&modelID=0&keywords=&theID=&noPerPage=0&cPage=1
Title: Re: Frisky Sprint Photo
Post by: Barry on December 24, 2012, 02:27:12 PM
I have now included an 'Information & Links' word document.
This allows links to be made available when the photos are copyright or cant be downloaded.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/j1yrnj21e69u0o6/_dbZcldnry







Title: Re: Frisky Sprint Photo
Post by: Mark Green on December 24, 2012, 08:29:56 PM
Here are a couple of pictures
Title: Re: Frisky Sprint Photo
Post by: Mark Green on December 24, 2012, 08:31:18 PM
other one
Title: Re: Frisky Sprint Photo
Post by: Barry on December 24, 2012, 08:50:25 PM
I have uploaded your two photos to the Meadows Frisky Folder.

You should be able to do this from your end also.

You may get a message through saying that the folder has been updated (because you have joined Dropbox).  Perhaps it's only me that gets a message as the folder 'owner'.

Someone moved the three Relant photos from Bond to Reliant  and I got a message through - it seems to work!


https://www.dropbox.com/sh/j1yrnj21e69u0o6/_dbZcldnry
Title: Re: Frisky Sprint Photo
Post by: Mark Green on December 24, 2012, 09:00:58 PM
I see they are on Dropbox now. Thank You :)
Title: Re: Frisky Sprint Photo
Post by: Big Al on December 25, 2012, 08:27:08 AM
So is that Phoenix anything to do with the scooters?
Title: Re: Frisky Sprint Photo
Post by: richard on December 26, 2012, 04:26:59 PM
no connection i am sure
Title: Re: Frisky Sprint Photo
Post by: john Meadows on December 26, 2012, 05:10:09 PM
The Phoenix
Lets get this right
The car shown is the "Bug"  the prototype Gullwing Frisky.
The car's chassis was designed and built by Gordon Bedson and Keith Peckmore, not Raymond Flower, he brought the small car concept to Meadows in 1957 after Nasser threw him and all other English people out of Egypt.

The body design was by Michelotti

In Egypt RF had an ambition to build an Egyptian Racing car, called the Phoenix called because in the Egyptian riots of  1952(?) all his businesses got burnt down, hence " rising from the flames"

He bought the Phoenix Racer to Kieft Ltd at Wolverhampton and it was being tested at the same race track as the 1957 24hr, 7 day Gull wing trials. Hence a bit of press confusion.

The Frisky has nowt to do with Egypt or the racing Pheonix. Its British!!

There is already plenty of info on this on the Meadows Frisky site and for those of you hungering to know more about Raymond Flower I am in the process of putting together a shortish article about him for the site.

Hope this helps folks

John





Title: Re: Frisky Sprint Photo
Post by: Big Al on December 27, 2012, 10:56:16 AM
Deep, old, creaking memory. Wasn't the Phoenix scooter loosely a modified DKR, itself a modification on a German design. The K in there being Kieft. If I am thinking right there may be a link, all be it vestigial between the pool of engineers/entrepreneurs around at the time. That it is called the Phoenix could also be a pure co-incidence. This is not a topic I know much about and I am remembering what I read sometime ago and maybe a mile out. Might refresh my bonce if I have time.

Meantime the Bug has a passing similarity to the later Heron Suzuki, CV1 was it? I quite like it and in a way find it more appealing that the Michelotti design. However it was a fair enough marketing choice to try something different into the market than to produce 'just another' bubblecar. If things had turned out differently I do not think it would have been the styling that would have held the car back. It was a complex situation unfortunately.
Title: Re: Frisky Sprint Photo
Post by: steven mandell on December 30, 2012, 10:52:48 AM
other one

The picture of Colonel Sanders on the door of a Frisky Sport is a sacrilege to them both.
Or perhaps his chicken was deep fried in 2 stroke oil any way.
Alternatively, you might be able to mix his used frying oil in with gas at a 1/24 ratio and leave behind a tasty smelling cloud.

I love the Bug the best.  Too bad it was destroyed, as to myself it embraces a perfect mix of cute, unusual, and even a whiff of presumptuous practicality in a period correct atomic age style worthy of the retro tribute that Suzuki unconsciously/ secretly paid to it.
Title: Re: Frisky Sprint Photo
Post by: john Meadows on December 30, 2012, 08:14:24 PM
Hello Steven

I am so glad you "love the Bug" its one of my favorites.

It was nicknamed "The Bug" by the employees in the factory, who were also remembered for referring to the Meadows Horse and Gear emblem  (Geared Horse power) as the "Cog & Donkey ".!!

It's so true, "A prophet is not without honour save in his own country " !!!

Have a healthy and profitable New Year

regards John

  Further Bug info at   http://www.meadowsfrisky.co.uk/page19.htm