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General Category => Unusual Microcar Discussion => Topic started by: thomast on December 29, 2012, 02:02:54 PM

Title: Trojan loom where does it go?
Post by: thomast on December 29, 2012, 02:02:54 PM: Okay, almost done ;) Why does everything take longer then I had hoped? Question, I've bought a new loom many years ago and I alway's thought the headlight loom for the rh side goes all the way round the tank and then back to front. New loom is far to short though. How does it get to the other side? Not underneath I hope!

Anyone?

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Title: Re: Trojan loom where does it go?
Post by: g-o-g-g-o on December 29, 2012, 07:32:45 PM: Hi
It goes round the front tube - when taking it out I always attach a thin wire so that I can thread in the new loom.
Mike
Title: Re: Trojan loom where does it go?
Post by: richard on December 29, 2012, 09:45:10 PM: Not sure if you get it , goggo of course correct it goes inside , up and over and out the other side of the main door loop- a stiff wire now needed to feed it round . Got the t shirt
Title: Re: Trojan loom where does it go?
Post by: thomast on December 30, 2012, 12:07:31 AM: Thanks for that, that will be a hell of a job then. To late to go in the barn now but I can't remember the front tube being accessible... Well, will know tomorrow!
Title: Re: Trojan loom where does it go?
Post by: richard on December 30, 2012, 12:48:20 AM: It is by no means obvious , only done it on rhd but it must be the same I guess- have fun and a very long stiff wire
Title: Re: Trojan loom where does it go?
Post by: richard on December 30, 2012, 03:22:03 PM: how are you getting on thomast ? car looking good but may i make a comment ? in your pic. above do you have your switches correct ? Would a 1963 Trojan not have switches similar to the earlier Heinkel / Heinkel Ireland in this pic. we saw before ?
Title: Re: Trojan loom where does it go?
Post by: thomast on December 30, 2012, 09:10:45 PM: Could well be, I'm not going for a 100% original car. I would like that, but that's not my goal. I want my dad's first car back on the road in technical top condition and I'll work on the details as we go on. Furthermore, there's a lot for me to learn about Trienkels ;-) My dad use to keep his car going with bits form cars he scraped, also using a friends (who owned a Heinkel from 1953) parts stock... Think this Trojan is more or less a mix ::)
Title: Re: Trojan loom where does it go?
Post by: richard on December 30, 2012, 10:00:39 PM: sorry nothing meant - just you've been asking for help with it :)
Title: Re: Trojan loom where does it go?
Post by: thomast on December 30, 2012, 10:14:56 PM: no worries, thanks for that ;)
Title: Re: Trojan loom where does it go?
Post by: Bob Purton on December 30, 2012, 10:26:31 PM: Quote from: thomast on December 30, 2012, 09:10:45 PM
Could well be, I'm not going for a 100% original car. I would like that, but that's not my goal. I want my dad's first car back on the road in technical top condition and I'll work on the details as we go on. Furthermore, there's a lot for me to learn about Trienkels ;-) My dad use to keep his car going with bits form cars he scraped, also using a friends (who owned a Heinkel from 1953) parts stock... Think this Trojan is more or less a mix ::)

Did you mean owned a Heinkel from 1953 or 63? Didnt think they existed in 53?
Title: Re: Trojan loom where does it go?
Post by: thomast on January 01, 2013, 08:53:28 PM: It's one of the first with not cable but bars for gearchange. Used to be the Dutch importers first displaycar for shows etc. Could well be 1954...
Title: Re: Trojan loom where does it go?
Post by: richard on January 01, 2013, 09:02:09 PM: no , sorry thomast bob is correct. the first Heinkel Kabine was 1956 and the last 60ish ,60/61 were Irish Heinkels and 62 onwards Trojan . no 1956 or 1966 .
Title: Re: Trojan loom where does it go?
Post by: thomast on January 02, 2013, 11:06:17 PM: ;D I'll better ask then...
Title: Re: Trojan loom where does it go?
Post by: thomast on February 10, 2013, 07:56:16 PM: Okay, another day spent in the barn and progress is good! There in no way though the loom can go through the chassis to the other side of there car. There is just no hole in the bottom tube on eighter side! ???

The only option I have it to extent the loom and go all way around the back. Is it just my Trojan that is like that?

Thomas
Title: Re: Trojan loom where does it go?
Post by: richard on February 10, 2013, 07:59:44 PM: yes there is !! its only 15-20mm diameter and about the level of the headlamp - get back to work thomas ! :)
Title: Re: Trojan loom where does it go?
Post by: thomast on February 10, 2013, 08:52:48 PM: what!?! Headlight level? I was looking lower the that!
Title: Re: Trojan loom where does it go?
Post by: richard on February 10, 2013, 08:59:29 PM: surely if i remember correctly the wires go into the frame at steering wheel level , around the hoop and come out through a hole fitted with a rubber grommet at headlamp level on the other side - after all they are headlamp wires . i do hope this IS correct , why would they go any lower ? i remember fishing through the hole with a bent wire to pull them through . it was 20 years ago though. :-\
Title: Re: Trojan loom where does it go?
Post by: Barry on February 10, 2013, 09:25:15 PM: You can get a proper 'Draw Tape' these days pretty cheap. Electricians use them. Fairly stiff steel or plastic that threads through more easily than a bit of wire. Then attach the electrics and pull them through.

For instance

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/CODT.html?source=adwords&kw=draw+tape&gclid=CMi1ktHWrLUCFa3KtAodBDMAMQ
Title: Re: Trojan loom where does it go?
Post by: richard on February 10, 2013, 09:31:23 PM: both my before and after photos show wires hanging from the tube in that position
Title: Re: Trojan loom where does it go?
Post by: marcus on February 12, 2013, 09:12:49 PM: There should be a hole there, but perhaps someone welded over it? I bought a new loom for mine when I restored it about 7 years ago and found the trickiest job was getting all the wires into the dashboard and connected to switches lights and fuses. The modern wire has slightly thicker insulaltion, so a tight fit for old wires became an incredibly tight fit for new! Vaseline helps.
Title: Re: Trojan loom where does it go?
Post by: richard on February 12, 2013, 09:53:22 PM: Ooh er missus ! Ask bob he's ac/dc apparently :)
Title: Re: Trojan loom where does it go?
Post by: thomast on February 13, 2013, 09:35:41 AM: I will be back in the barn this weekend... I'll let you know ;D

btw, just love that upsite-down dash... Amazing design... It could not have been that hard to add a hole on the rhs of the dash ???
Title: Re: Trojan loom where does it go?
Post by: Bob Purton on February 13, 2013, 09:36:42 AM: Not me gov, purely AC. Vox AC30 valve amplifier and an AC G-wiz.
Title: Re: Trojan loom where does it go?
Post by: thomast on March 05, 2013, 11:25:07 AM: Okay, on the right there is a 11mm hole :o in the front tube. on the left there is a tinny gap in the joint/corner where the front tube meets the dash support tube...

I think it will be far more easy to extend the loom and go round the back! >:( Who designed this ;D
Title: Re: Trojan loom where does it go?
Post by: richard on March 05, 2013, 11:45:57 AM: Its not a tiny gap :)its big enough . The 11mm ( mine was only 10mm ! I feel cheated ) hole is for the. Wiring a grommet - it all works perfectly . Vorsprung durch technic