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General Category => Off Topic Lounge => Topic started by: Barry on March 01, 2013, 11:25:36 AM
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Of interest? (Electric! - only me and Bob it seems)
Casple-Podadera
http://www.gizmag.com/casple-podadera-folding-car/26268/
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And Gary Numan. 'Are Threads Electric?'
Captain Seddon's were, as Stuart can tell you!
Varta you than me, na hah!
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Won't probe this topic however much you prod me . Thought bob more into biofuels :)
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(Electric! - only me and Bob it seems)
I'm also guilty as charged.
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(Electric! - only me and Bob it seems)
I'm also guilty as charged.
Oh very good.
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I am confused as to why this thread is in the off topic lounge. Small electric cars are microcars. and I for one do not dismiss them. In the war time period on mainland Europe when petrol was scarce electric cars were very popular as that was one means they could get to power their vehicles. The others being gas from burning coal or wood or leg power, hence Velo cars.
Who would like this topic moved into interesting discussions or an electric car garage tab?
Chris Thomas
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i feel the odd one out as i thought originally RUM was more for historic vehicles - being rare as they were rare survivors - all this is why i dropped out from RUM for years . perhaps i will have to again
Modern electric vehicles for me - a complete TURN OFF
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I cannot get around them being microcars in my sense of what the topic is. We never have had many electric cars at rallies. Really over the Microcar period of 1950 to 1970 there were no genuine electric cars competing fully with Microcars. They might put up a niche struggle as local or urban transport, the electric IC speak volumes about this. The ICE powered ones were and remain the pick of the crop for most folks in use or as a useable collectable now. The technology was not available to create the range for one thing. The commonality could be construction, shared parts and minimalist motoring, but not always.
I think electric cars are interesting. Not hugely so to me but they have there place and might yet make their real mark especially if the storage or creation of the electric motive power is made a whole lot more efficient within the vehicles at an affordable price. That alone means they are of note and without a wide knowledge it is easy to be a one trick wonder. So purely as an educational resource I need to be interested.
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I dont care two amps what topic its under, if something interests me I read it, if not I dont. I wasnt for the off topic lounge in the first place , I think it was Marcus who pushed it and now he is slipping away from the scene anyway.
Regarding modern micro's, when Rumcars started some of the cars it catered for were not so old then so irs really an on going thing. After all its not the register of OLD microcars is it? LIke Richard though, my passion is for the old stuff.
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Of interest? (Electric! - only me and Bob it seems)
Casple-Podadera
http://www.gizmag.com/casple-podadera-folding-car/26268/
I wish they would put doors on these things. I recently discovered the Twizzy is made in Spain, could be why no doors on that one also.
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I dont care two amps what topic its under, if something interests me I read it, if not I dont. I wasnt for the off topic lounge in the first place , I think it was Marcus who pushed it and now he is slipping away from the scene anyway.
Regarding modern micro's, when Rumcars started some of the cars it catered for were not so old then so irs really an on going thing. After all its not the register of OLD microcars is it? LIke Richard though, my passion is for the old stuff.
Indeed so. The organization can move with the times even if individuals do not want to. Do not want to dictate terms.
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Toyota shows the i-Road – a fully-enclosed, tilting, electric three-wheeled competitor for the motorcycle
http://www.gizmag.com/toyota-i-road-full-enclosed-tilting-electric-three-wheeler/26498/?utm_source=Gizmag+Subscribers&utm_campaign=68b44aecf0-UA-2235360-4&utm_medium=email
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Dear Bob
I have just come back from a Big eco exhibition in London where they were showing Renault electric vehicles and low and behold the Twizzy now has a roll down flexy side window option. The only problem is there is still a big gap at the rear end, so a rear passender will get soaked in a storm.
The roll down flexi window is not the sort of thing you could operate with one hand, so is something you can only use when stationary.
A step in the right direction, but a bit un professional.
Chris Thomas
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when discussng these vehicles a pic would help i suspect i am not the only one who who doesn't know what a twizzy looks like ? is that what bob has ? last time i asked for a pic he didn't post it
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http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=twizy&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=8lg2Uf6aE8SSOOn0gPgG&ved=0CGYQsAQ&biw=1745&bih=977#imgrc=hOA9RqbV4Bz-bM%3A%3BAGpQ8TzHZUgIFM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.mad4wheels.com%252Fwebpics%252Fhires%252F00010075%252520-%2525202012%252520Renault%252520Twizy%252F2012_Renault_Twizy_008_6311.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.mad4wheels.com%252Fmodels%252F2012_Renault_Twizy%252Fdetail_image.asp%253Fid_pic%253D339520%3B1920%3B1080
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Hear is a G-wiz Richard. Now you can see why I fancy a Twizzy.
Good news about the side windows Chris. Its a start!
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this gets more confusing , chris and bob call it a twizzy - isetta owners link calls it a twizy . bob inferred that was just his name for it but chris has the same name for it :-\
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Dear Richard
What are a few ZZZZ between friends. It should only have one Z.
Chris Thomas
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'Fitted with a computer guided proboscis it automatically searches for the nectar of an available current from any available source to regain the energy it needs to move'. Bad news if you have ingested a cellphone!
Twizzzzzzzy, re inventing the KR201 Roadster side window. Wasn't clever then and it certainly isn't now. Interest in ownership, Zzzzzz.
Come on lets get this technology and design right and stop messing around with the inefficient box ticking styling exercises. Has anyone actually made a serious attempt at a fully compliant usable electric car that can compete with ICE taking in the entire life and usage of the vehicle as green technology? Moving the pollution to India and a power station at Dungerness with three days drive time from London to Scotland is just not cutting the mustard.
Dare I say that certain interests and companies are sat on technology that is not being used while we are tempted with the odd nibble so it looks like someone is doing something?
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Are you really wealthy Chris T? Have you seen the Tesla car for sale on Brit eBay within the 'other cars' category. Permission to go whizz whizz. Not a MIcro in any form but of interest to our Electric chums. Not quite so sure the price is!
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Dear Al
I have not seen the Teslar for sale ebay. What ever it sells for is going be outside my price range at the moment.
I am very happy with my insight, The best car I have ever owned. It has done over 100 000 miles and has completely paid for itself, so from now on it is actually making me money. And in the present climate any earnings are worth having.
Have you noticed how Ferrari are now building petrol electric hybrids????
Watch out for the French electric car invasion, followed by the Chinese electric car invasion. You heard it here first.
Chris Thomas
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Video of the Toyota
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ScsDvRYyitc
https://www.eta.co.uk/2013/03/05/toyota-i-road-the-electric-carscooter-hybrid/?utm_source=http%3A%2F%2Feta.sgml1.co.uk%2Fetalz%2F&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=13.3.8+newsletter&utm_term=Bicycle+speed+on+the+road+ahead&utm_content=24311
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Dear Al
I have not seen the Teslar for sale ebay. What ever it sells for is going be outside my price range at the moment.
I am very happy with my insight, The best car I have ever owned. It has done over 100 000 miles and has completely paid for itself, so from now on it is actually making me money. And in the present climate any earnings are worth having.
Have you noticed how Ferrari are now building petrol electric hybrids????
Watch out for the French electric car invasion, followed by the Chinese electric car invasion. You heard it here first.
Chris Thomas
Tesla was at £55,000. So a few more miles in the Insight yet.
Funny you should mention Ferrari. EBay is full of them for sale along with other weekend wonder buckets including TVR wedges. Folk are thinking that these little used objects of joy filling up a garage are excess to budget. This could be the start of a bit of a 'Classic Car' sell off. Now off course I would not class some of this stuff as a Classic Car but the media will.
Could be that more urban based folks might take some of their sale price and use it to buy electric and then think about loosing the second car too. Folk will not want to trade their mobility but will be interested in saving overheads and fuel costs, especially if they can recharge the car at work for free.
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I dont care two amps what topic its under, if something interests me I read it, if not I dont. I wasnt for the off topic lounge in the first place , I think it was Marcus who pushed it and now he is slipping away from the scene anyway.
Regarding modern micro's, when Rumcars started some of the cars it catered for were not so old then so irs really an on going thing. After all its not the register of OLD microcars is it? LIke Richard though, my passion is for the old stuff.
Hello, it's me! Sometimes Life, Work and Everything gets in the way of interests!
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and i am sure we've all missed you friend :)
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Cheers Squire! I'm still not likely to be around much for a while but nice to pop in again; I hope that in my absence you have all been plantering the warts and ceeding the fat.
Er, watering the plants and feeding the cat!
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Hey! Welcome back Marcus, when I heard your cars was up for sale and you stop posting I thought you were gone!
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Still got the drum car though? I am slightly worried with your admitting you have been travelling to Cumbria. NOwing you like Thunderbirds, which powered anything with nuclear reactors I am now concerned that your planning to take the world over with an infrabass nuclear powered drum kit on a Unigate Milkfloat or something. Something is stirring in Sarf London - teas ready.
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Cheers Bob, I have considered selling DUF a couple of times but then get cold feet despite serious offers. The problem is I just have no spare time these days, I generally work for 2-3 weeks without a break then take a long "lunchbreak" with Squeak or my Dad, and both of them have health problems.
Cheers Al, the Drum Car has not been out for a few years and needs new batteries, but is still stored in my workshop waiting for the right time. meanwhile it has inspired several people "as I always said it would!) to mount a drum kit on, for example, a motorcycle side car (see You Tube), then one guy drums while the other drives. Yup, they go a lot faster than me, but I was FIRST! And still the only one to do the drumming AND driving myself! The real difference though, is that mine IS slow and electric, therefore it IS suitable for use in processions and festivals, in supermarkets and pubs, on roads, pavements and in parks, so it is a more useful way to entertain the crowds!
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Good to have you back Marcus.
Back to electric cars.
http://www.gizmag.com/colibri-electric-urban-vehicle-for-one/26709/?utm_source=Gizmag+Subscribers&utm_campaign=94cc1df940-UA-2235360-4&utm_medium=email
And I know Al, it will take 10 days to drive the 579 miles to Aberdeen having to charge-up every 69 miles. That's 9 charge-ups.
If I want to go to Aberdeen (I haven't been there in the last 55 years) I would hire a car and it would take 10 hours.
If I want to go to Australia I wouldn't buy a 747.
If I want to go 10 miles to work and back every day at 1p/mile, with no tax, an electric car looks attractive.
Stick a good size PV panel in the back garden coupled with a small wind turbine for the night time and the electric is free!
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Your last sentence is the idea, here. I would like a proper sized windmill and some back up cells plus donkey engine and tell the power utilities to push off. Water prices I can live with but I do need a good internet connection. Now if the electric installation does work out as regularly being in excess of requirement an electric car might be viable even in Longcot. Ideal for shops and local chums. BE set up when the Russians argue with us over banking or something and decide to turn the gas off. See Cyprus rumpus and unamused Russians.
Go to Australia, prefer to go on a container ship as first class passenger than fly. I cannot afford a ship either, though.
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And here we have it Al
https://www.eta.co.uk/2013/03/29/car-drives-on-energy-you-harvest-in-one-day/?utm_source=http%3A%2F%2Feta.sgml1.co.uk%2Fetalz%2F&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=13.3.29+newsletter&utm_term=Pedal-powered+Popemobile+for+the+people%26%2339%3Bs+pontiff&utm_content=24311
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Now that's getting warmer. Were thinking minimilist - its transport. We are ignoring the mobil frog look that seems to be what pretend 'new concepts' adopt to fool the public. There are some first principles here, that it begins to look schmitt like is no great surprise as Fend got that bit right for a trike. We are thinking of using new technology and chiefly we are thinking of much more self reliance in creating a generating infrastructure on your roof backed up by outsourced power rather than plug in and pollute a power station. A lot of companies could be called in to put in energy centres on their roofs to enable commuting drivers a sure trip home. Get the costings right on ownership of something like this and an ICE vehicle on a tapered scale along with a bit of smart road management and you can see a pretty nifty traffic system forming up. The Green Lanes of urban Britain. Other conforming and existing vehicles can join in, like the GWhizz. Maybe make it all VAT free.
Go beyond. That square jobbie as a taxi/minibus with a clip in power cell. Allow those into the Green Lanes and they can operate 24 hours if they can stop off for a new power cell at a suitable venue, probably associated to a larger turbine and generation infrastructure, every so often. The use of such technology in real time will undoubtedly see real improvements in creating more efficient power cell technology. Start getting the ranges up and ICE need not dominate the Rural transport economy either. Trouble is it all has to come from the top. Sadly chasing white elephants like HS2 is more important in solving our countrywide transport needs. That budget put behind a sensible stratigised project would be vastly more effective to the country than subsidizing the 300 business north of Birmingham left after Government miss management on a monumental scale, who want to send staff to a few key destinations in Europe. Assuming we are still in Europe! Maybe UKIP should look at these ideas.