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Title: Info needed on Berkeley triple engine and transmission
Post by: Bobbydog on April 28, 2013, 02:05:59 PM
Hi all, long time been away but back now at long last.
I am needing some information/papers and or a complete engine/transmission set up
Fr the Berkeley triple engine and gearbox, plus the drive shaft set up

Is the gearbox a separate item from the engine, and how is the final drive to the wheels setup

Does anyone have any pictures of this items in situ..........
If not , any pictures out of the car...........
Any information would be gratefully received
Thank you
Title: Re: Info needed on Berkeley triple engine and transmission
Post by: messerschmitt on April 28, 2013, 10:01:33 PM
Engine is separate from the four speed plus reverse Albion  vr box.
Final drive is by a chain from the gearbox sprocket to final drive sprocket on the diff.
Title: Re: Info needed on Berkeley triple engine and transmission
Post by: Bobbydog on April 28, 2013, 10:23:33 PM
I thank you for that
Is there any web page, or could someone post up an exploded picture or two ,as I am going to the Beaulieu auto jumble as I lie only four miles away from it and I am wanting a general picture of type to look out for
Thanks
Title: Re: Info needed on Berkeley triple engine and transmission
Post by: Rusty Chrome (Malcolm Parker) on April 28, 2013, 11:41:10 PM
This website has some technical stuff on it.

http://www.pearsy.co.uk/index.htm (http://www.pearsy.co.uk/index.htm)
Title: Re: Info needed on Berkeley triple engine and transmission
Post by: messerschmitt on May 08, 2013, 02:28:35 PM
The gearbox will be an Albion VR4 box and failing that a TR4 will fit - the R denotes reverse and the 4 the number of gears!

It's a rectangular cube of aluminium about 9 inches long with a lever at the side and (in theory) some rods that go through to what would be the clutch housing.

MOst Berk boxes look the same but there are 3 speed versions too (TR3).

Title: Re: Info needed on Berkeley triple engine and transmission
Post by: Bobbydog on May 12, 2013, 06:59:29 AM
THANKYOU   Fr your kind description
I have a rough idea on what to look for now
Title: Re: Info needed on Berkeley triple engine and transmission
Post by: richard on May 12, 2013, 11:33:33 AM
Good info I will keep aneye out for one too. If V or T what does this letter designate ? And could you clarify the 9inch rectangular cube ? Thanks
Title: Re: Info needed on Berkeley triple engine and transmission
Post by: Bobbydog on May 13, 2013, 07:22:05 AM
I would think that the 9" rectangular cube is the casing of the gearbox,
Hopefully will find one this month at Beaulieu,
Title: Re: Info needed on Berkeley triple engine and transmission
Post by: steven mandell on May 13, 2013, 08:22:11 AM
Please excuse the naivety of the question, but the possibility is too obvious to go unspoken.
Does this transmission in any way relate to a transmission from either a Triumph car or motorcycle?
Title: Re: Info needed on Berkeley triple engine and transmission
Post by: g-o-g-g-o on May 13, 2013, 01:32:38 PM
Hi
    I don't want to put a downer on you finding a Berkeley gearbox at Beaulieu, but we have found less and less microcar items over the years - but you might be lucky - you are welcome to come and chat at our stall ( if we have not got any buyers ) we are positioned in the Green fiels stall no 197 and 196 - next to the end of the big marquee - see you then.
                                                                                                   Mike
Title: Re: Info needed on Berkeley triple engine and transmission
Post by: messerschmitt on May 13, 2013, 02:22:20 PM
The T & V are the model number and the R relates to the fact that the box has a reverse gear - unlike the Albion T and V models for motorbikes.

The number relates to the number of gears - very early Berks have a TR3 (Model T, with reverse and three speed).

The last Berk triple engine I saw at an autojumble for sale was in Alford in about 1992. I Just missed getting it for £50 - mind you, if it's anything like a talisman twin it'll be a s**t engine to work on and get running correctly.
Title: Re: Info needed on Berkeley triple engine and transmission
Post by: Trident on May 13, 2013, 03:22:12 PM
Would an Albion VR1 VAF  4 speed + reverse gearbox fit?
Title: Re: Info needed on Berkeley triple engine and transmission
Post by: Bobbydog on May 15, 2013, 06:59:25 AM
Hi trident
Will look this evening and get back to you
Thanks awfully ........
Title: Re: Info needed on Berkeley triple engine and transmission
Post by: micro marshall on May 15, 2013, 12:15:48 PM
i think we have some spear complet Berkeley engines, i think :o :o :P
Title: Re: Info needed on Berkeley triple engine and transmission
Post by: Bobbydog on May 15, 2013, 03:25:30 PM
Micro Marshall
Are they twin or triple or a mixture of both
Would dearly dearly love a triple
Title: Re: Info needed on Berkeley triple engine and transmission
Post by: Big Al on May 15, 2013, 08:03:20 PM
Get several and create a 656cc 6 cylinder Excelsior using 4 middle cylinder sets. Then spend a fortune making the exhaust! That would make the old Coronet go a bit better! Might need another Exelsior to power the cooling fan but, hey, turn it into a Hovercraft. Still officially a Microcar according to some too.
Title: Re: Info needed on Berkeley triple engine and transmission
Post by: Bobbydog on May 16, 2013, 06:11:54 PM
Hi big al

If here are any triples in micro marshals offerings
I am hoping to commission them all
There is thoughts afoot about a quad excelsior, the possibilities are there
Title: Re: Info needed on Berkeley triple engine and transmission
Post by: Big Al on May 19, 2013, 09:59:53 AM
Its already been done. My advice? Do not bother as the crank joints are not actually man enough to take it and keeping it cool will be a nightmare. Its a way of using rare parts up. Better to get a late Dolphin water jacket engine as it knocks out pretty good power and will stay cool. Two of those linked a la Saab six and a Berkeley would take off. Just my take on it.