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General Category => Unusual Microcar Discussion => Topic started by: GoggoPete on June 06, 2013, 09:42:39 PM
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Hi all,
I've been looking in for a while and thought it was about time I signed up.
I'm a sufferer from CHPD*, so it was only a matter of time before I bought something quirky.
My other cars are mainly DAFs, and I own a 33 which I am restoring - currently stripping to a shell for bead blasting - a 33 van, a 32, a 66 estate and lastly a 66 coupe which is my daily DAF. When I'm not 'belting along' as they say in DAF land, my regular hack is a rather tatty smoker of a Rover SD1.
I confess to being the chap who bought the orange Goggo t250 off the bay which I've read that I've paid too much for...hey ho. I guess it was the market rate so far as eBay goes, and much for its sins, eBay is a good barometer of what any given thing is worth, useless tatt included of course.
The Goggo only arrived today, having been on holiday when I bid lost me a week, then the recovery company's truck breaking down en route home didn't help. Stilll, it is safely ensconsed at my friend's farm in the rural outskirts of Colchester, Essex.
I broke a golden rule in buying blind which I may well regret. It will be a slow restoration as I learn more about this quirky little car and first stop will be finding a battery for it. It'll be a while until I get to see it still, but I shall report back when there are more updates. If there is anyone else in the lovely county of Essex that knows these cars and fancies popping round to have a butchers, the kettle never goes cold and I would look forward to seeing you...
ttfn,
Pete.
* CHPD 'Compulsive Heap Purchasing Disorder'
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welcome friend . i live nowhere near - but wish you well . micro prices generally are moving up and seem set fair . if it turns out you paid a little too much , i don't remember it , i dare say it will come right in the end . enjoy anyway its' always fun having a new toy :)
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Hi
I am also the owner of a Goggo - in fact I have got the saloon and the coupe - I have not been driving them over the past two years, but maybe I will get them out this Summer - good luck with your new purchase.
Mike
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Welcome. I'm an Essex boy down in Hornchurch but no nothing about Goggos other than that I like them!
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Thanks for the warm reception guys.
Small world Bob, I used to live round the corner from you in Elm Park about 7 years ago before I upped sticks and moved to Rayleigh.
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Of course there is a link between Goggo and DAF.
I have had my share of DAF, Good cars. Had a Pick Up which is now restored. I hope the Goggo is a good buy. Unless you look its hard to know condition but I have had enough to suspect the worst from rust if I can see it. Mechanically they are pretty bomb proof and unless you want to get into unusual stuff, not to silly for bits, though Germany rules. Trim, well it looks nice but it does not prevent use while you sort it out. So fingers crossed on the body.
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Thats funny, Barry of this forum recently upped sticks and moved from Rayleigh to the wilds of Suffolk. Did you ever see a yellow Messerschmitt buzzing around Hornchurch? It was I.
As you are into Daffs, I have a 33 rear windscreen knocking around my workshop, would you be interested in it?
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Good luck with your purchase GoggoPete, keep us informed about your restoration. I wonder if it was someone on here who was driving the very original looking UK registered T250 at the Sammy Miller Bike autojumble last year? It pulled up in the car park just as I was going in but had left before I had a chance to go and look at it closely.
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I'm always interested in DAF spares Bob as they are thin on the ground these days and some of the parts prices can be eye-watering. I'm around most weekends and would be happy to relieve you of it for suitable beer tokens! ;) Just let me know!
It's a shame I can't find one for my 66 coupe, took the old girl up to Angelsey a couple of weeks ago and she fared really well until the front windscreen shattered on the A120 on the way home. Fortunately the insurance company will pick up the tag but when I called National Windscreens a couple of weeks ago they told me it was 'special order' and I should have the windscreen fitted before the end of June... ::) That leaves me with smokey Rover which has an insatiable thirst (19mpg on a good day) almost equalled by oil consumption...
I don't remember seeing a yellow Schmitt but it was a while ago and my memory's not as good as it used to be.
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Pilkington hold molds for loads of obsolete screens. Probably where they have gone to.
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Yep, that's spot on, Pilkington it is.
There's only one 33 pick-up known to the DAF Owners Club these days, owned by a chap called Tony in Cheltenham. Never seen it in the flesh but it looks good.
All 33s are rare now, there's only +/- 16 on the road now.
Here's mine before I started stripping her down...amazing how much you can squeeze inside 'em... Sorry for the disorientated photos...
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interesting photo's but i've now got a stiff neck . you fit the critea for this forum - your a plonker like most of us ;D
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Lol, cheers Richard! ;D
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Yep, that's spot on, Pilkington it is.
There's only one 33 pick-up known to the DAF Owners Club these days, owned by a chap called Tony in Cheltenham. Never seen it in the flesh but it looks good.
All 33s are rare now, there's only +/- 16 on the road now.
Here's mine before I started stripping her down...amazing how much you can squeeze inside 'em... Sorry for the disorientated photos...
Well it used to live at the station masters house at Toddington but maybe its moved down the road a few miles.
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It would be nice to have your Goggo on our Register, see the main RUMCAR web site, and get details by clicking on About the Register on the Home Page. Also you can find details about RUMCAR NEWS too, our magazine carries an article on Goggos each issue written by Mike O'Ballance who oversees the Goggo section of our Register. Jean
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It would be nice to have your Goggo on our Register, see the main RUMCAR web site, and get details by clicking on About the Register on the Home Page. Also you can find details about RUMCAR NEWS too, our magazine carries an article on Goggos each issue written by Mike O'Ballance who oversees the Goggo section of our Register. Jean
Yep, not a problem Jean, I should be getting acquainted with the old girl tomorrow. Who's the best person to PM the details to (save a tree and all that)?
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your i.d. is GoggoPete . did you just think you were asking for trouble calling yourself DAFPete - i suppose you could be right ;)
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Well, maybe but I didn't think DAFs would qualify as a microcar...I've been called worse. ;)
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There is a Daff in the Hammond Collection, and so long as the engine size is under 700 cc's it qualifies.
With regard to the Register as I suggested if you read about it on the main website then download the form that needs to be completed for each car and relay the whole lot to Alastair (alastair.rumcars@btinternet.com). We can raise an invoice on PayPal for the fees.
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That is a very rare DAF then Jean as it would be a 600cc and so one of the first models from the late '50's/early '60s. I did not think that there would be any of those in this country, as the import volume at that time would have been minimal if at all. The earliest car I know of (which isn't roadworthy) is a 31 model but that, like its 'A' body predecessors, is a 747cc, as is my DAF33.
I'll download the form when I'm back at work. I was just trying to save paper which is de rigeur these days or so it seems. I wasn't trying to be tight and evade the £1.50 registration fee btw... ;)
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Saving paper is fine, its just that there are certain things that Alastair needs know to keep our Register uniform, also he needs photographs. Obviously this can all be scanned back to him via email.
We are hoping to be able to set up the website so the form can be completed on line and payment made via PayPal on line too, similar to the collecting of RUMCAR NEWS subscriptions but so far we have not found the expert to set it up for us . The web site itself needs a face lift too, but we have not found a volunteer yet to assist Jim who is our very hard pressed American based web master and guru of the Forum. Jean
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goggopete
do you need a workshop manual for your goggo purchase?
If so, I have to photocopy mine for another goggo owner in my village.
As I can do a second copy at the same time.
Campbell
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Campbell, you are an absolute lifesaver - yes please!!!
Please do let me know what I owe you, I'm most grateful!
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Campbell, you are an absolute lifesaver - yes please!!!
Please do let me know what I owe you, I'm most grateful!
send me a PM with your address and I shall get my reward in heaven! (I only have to press 2 instead of 1 on the photocopier).
Surprisingly, there is a Goggo owner in my village!!!! His is a 57, bought at the Bywell auction a few years back.
He liked my Messerschmitt and Bond a lot.
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PM sent!
A manual will be a real boon.
Had a first look at her today. Hooked up a 063 battery from one of the DAFs...it was all that was to hand (what code battery should it have), and she started on the first turn of the key, well chuffed! :)
http://youtu.be/kBSuR8SALLo
She didn't want to pull away without a LOT of revs. I think the brakes are binding. Had a look at the rear ones, broken adjuster on one side and couldn't get drums off. Used landlord's tractor hub-puller but gave up in end for fear of damaging hub and wanting for a workshop manual...
Also found that she leaves a trail of oil so somewhere I have an engine or transmission leak - there's a fair bit covering the underside of the engine/box. At least it is keeping some rust at bay... ;D
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PM sent!
A manual will be a real boon.
Had a first look at her today. Hooked up a 063 battery from one of the DAFs...it was all that was to hand (what code battery should it have), and she started on the first turn of the key, well chuffed! :)
http://youtu.be/kBSuR8SALLo
She didn't want to pull away without a LOT of revs. I think the brakes are binding. Had a look at the rear ones, broken adjuster on one side and couldn't get drums off. Used landlord's tractor hub-puller but gave up in end for fear of damaging hub and wanting for a workshop manual...
Also found that she leaves a trail of oil so somewhere I have an engine or transmission leak - there's a fair bit covering the underside of the engine/box. At least it is keeping some rust at bay... ;D
did you have her in the right gear - it's a weird gearchange if I remember correctly. It's years since I have driven a Goggo but the gearchange is sideways or back to front.
The engine is a two stroke so any oil is likely to be a transmission problem - engine casing splits from the top so check the driveshaft seals.
Manual will be with you soon.
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Thanks!
Yep I checked and 1st is forwards and left...I think!
As for the bodywork, it's like the bottom six inches all round needs replacing. I've seen a website for Butschek, anyone used them? I see a lot about Uwe Staufenberg however non-domiciled customers have to pay €15 for the catalogue. Don't get me wrong, I'm not tight and I'll happily pay £1 at my local church so get into the craft fair, but it seems a little off to pay someone money to be able to spend money with them, if you see what I mean? Bitscheck seem to have a kit of parts that would really help...
Electrics...I have one tailights working and that's all. The B pillar indicators are missing too.
Photos to follow...
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uwes catalogue very comprehensive i will scan a few pics so that you can get the jist - later
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I'd recommend Staufenburg too - and you have always had to pay for the catalogue!
Campbell
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just a couple of pages here , a very comprehensive and professional catalogue , english orders no problem
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and 1 more
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Thanks Richard,
I shall order my catalogue forthwith...and learn some German. :D
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Oh dear, a rotty botty. That can be a lot of work and a lot of money. It is what I am keeping clear of. A solid but dead Goggo I can happily get going but I do not want loads of bodywork. I feared this car was a bit of a hanger.
For ease of availability you can use a universal BMC/BL clutch puller with appropriate metric bolts into the three threaded holes provided on the brake drum. The rear drums are on tapers so need a good tighten and a sharp whack with a soft headed mallet to get them off. If they come off to simply then someone has been in there or the taper needs cleaning. The brake adjusters are not to clever, but are shared with other vehicles, so maybe found. Try not to break the handbrake shoe strap; it is brittle metal.
The UJs are a favourite pain. They can get badly worn, especially if built out of balance. In driving they will show up as a wobble and/or clonk. The kingpins die too. Great little set up with needle bearings but sadly not waterproof without lots of oil. Held in with a roll pin and you need a top quality 4mm, I think it is, drift to get them out. Dead easy then. Get the pin stuck with a bust cheapo drift and its a bas***d.
If the UJs have been duff or are gone it knocks the hell out of the drive shaft oil seals. That could be your oil leak. Not a difficult repair if the UJs are to be done. Pays to check the preloded backlash on an abused diff. They are strong and will put up with a lot of action but there is a limit.
Gears indeed are H across the car starting at the forward left. Reverse should have a gate with a shield lifted on the gearstick to go over it. That can be naffed or the front gear shaft bush disintegrated. Do not be tempted to drive far without the protection of this guard. The Goggo gearbox is nearly bullet proof but for reverse getting selected at forward speed! In good working order you can actually drive it without the clutch just using feel skill for the gear speed. Its one of the fastest gear-changes I think there is.
Be aware that you probably have two drain plugs in the bottom of the engine case for each crankcase chamber. These can be messed with and not seal, losing compression and leaking oil. Handy for clearing an unknown engine out though. Another fave is the dynostarter side oil seal poping out of position on the bearing carrier. Oil in the dynostarter will result, not helpful and again loss of compression. It is a design fault and a 'Uwe plate' cures it, from Staufenburg. Perhaps the most difficult job to try and do in the car! You need a hardened steel tool or at least distance peace to remove the dynostarter, as in Isetta, Miaco, NSU. Never put anything soft in there or you risk it never coming out again.
Like I say mechanically a Goggo is mostly good news and good metal fasteners. A few special tools are needed but you can get round most of them. It's body work that is their problem. Get it going for a blast and you will want to get that body sorted out.
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Thanks Al for these tips and info that will give me a good starting point.
I knew there were some body issues and they don't put me off too much, being a DAF man after all! ;)
I think there may be some bush/linkage problem with the gears. First did not always engage and the movement was quite stiff forwards and backwards whilst fore and aft was fine. If the brakes are not holding her on then that might be the clutch.
The biggest problem I found was getting enough height underneath to get a proper look see. Once I have the manual to know how to take stuff apart without damaging it then I'll have the confidence to crack on with it, it's just so different to anything I've owned/worked on before.
I'm sure it'll all come good in the end and I fully understand what you say about wanting to tackle the body once I've experienced it driving properly...it's the same with the DAFs, I forgive them for far too many indiscretions - just because they are such a hoot to drive. :)
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It is quite easy to tip a Goggo over to one side and block it into position. I can do it on my own but two is easier. You can then do a sides maintenance.
I have not had great probs with clutches. The diaphragms crack. It is possible that a lack of use has got the clutch coated with gelatinous oil. It forms a sort of shellac type coating. Sachs use ST90 as well and can do it but the Trienkel with ST30 is well known for sticking its clutch together. Normally with ST90 a good heat cycle will see it ease off. The clutch can be got at but you oil is going to come out doing it. I guess you would prefer to ID main probs and then do them in succession rather than create more, at the moment. You cannot use Hypoid oil in the gearbox. Must be SAE or ST syrup.
Not sure I understand the gear prob put forward to back is running through plasticized bushings. They go off and break up or rusty shafts tear at them. Rotation is always easier. You will find a row of inspection hatches in the centre of the floor, underneath. If the car is rusty it is a great adventure to seek inside the caves of Goggo control lines, enjoy!
Luck, Cambell was it, has a manual. I flog mine for genuine folding type money.
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Campbell got his manual from you some twenty years ago for real folding but one day a Goggo is going to be back in my garage, hence why I'm not selling. I'm copying it anyway for a local who also has a Goggo and pressing 2 rather than 1 on the copier is not a problem.
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Hello Pete,
I have a Goggo T300 (which I paid FAR too much for) and it cost me £££s to restore. I lived in Hornchurch for 30 odd years and also once owned a Daf 46 (yes 46). I tried to contact Butschek once but never got an answer so now always use Uwe. I am using my Goggo as a daily driver now since we decided to make do with only one common car. (KR200 for LONG distances however.)
Good luck with it.
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Thanks Swanktank! :)
I contacted Uwe, giving them the desired details for payment and received an automated e-mail informing me that my e-mail would be responded to by 13th June, that being the last that I heard from them...is this what is known as 'German efficiency'? ;D
I think that I've also paid lots too much and also have far too much to spend too!
The 46 was a good DAF, so long as the belt held out!! If you're ever in the Colchester area and want to rekindle your DAF memories (we have about 10 of the blighters there and most of them are drivers) and see my grotty Goggo then just let me know. :)
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Just to perpetuate the Hornchurch connection, Pete paid me a visit this afternoon as I had a Daf 33 windscreen he wanted, it was good to meet up, I showed him my Isetta and the top secret ######## project car in exchange for an invite to visit the top secret barn full of Dafs up Colchester way. I also ran a Daf 55 for some time back in the late 70's. It must be an Upminster upbringing thing!! A pleasure to meet you Peter.
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Glad to hear the T300 is now a regular runner. Great for distance but 'nuff said as your a Schmitter.
Many a Micro owner has been seduced by the reading of the Bands and had a DAF I have found. Why wouldn't you?
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Thanks for those kind words Bob.
Yes, I enjoyed my visit and seeing project 'x'! :-X
I'll look forward to seeing you in DAF land sometime. :)
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Hi Pete
You may like to know that I have a garage full of goggo spares - they came with the cars that I've bought over the last 10 years - Classic Car Weekly are doing a spread on goggomobiles next week - the mag comes out on Wed.
Mike
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Hello Pete etc.,
The best breakdown which I had in the Daf was when the nut holding the belt wheel thingy came off late at night in Knightsbridge at the peak of the IRA troubles. When I rolled to the side of the road an army chap came up and told me that "you can't leave that here". Anyway I did. The bad news was that I had TWO instruments with me (one cello size) and a box of musicwhich I was not prepared to leave in the car. I only got as far as Monument on the last tube. I finally got home thanks to a rather expensive taxi ride to Hornchurch!
Owning the Daf did make me join the AA fortunately. After a week in Durham it would not start. The AA man discovered that the Petrol tank was empty though the gauge said half full.
My brother had a Daf 66 (and earlier a few different Micros.
On the good side my Goggo was not as bad as some as far as rust because it was an import from New Zealand. It also came with a sack full of spares, many of which I needed, as a moron seemed to have been "working" on it. I am quite surprised how much attention in attracts down here when I am out and about.
Maurice
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It wouldn't go away so here is the back of a Goggo made earlier!
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Hi Pete
You may like to know that I have a garage full of goggo spares - they came with the cars that I've bought over the last 10 years - Classic Car Weekly are doing a spread on goggomobiles next week - the mag comes out on Wed.
Mike
Great, I'll look out for that at the newsagents. I believe one of their contributors has restored a coupe.
Handy to know about spares...I'm missing the B post signal/parking lights and a number plate light. If you have any of those I'd be happy to swap for appropriate beer tokens.
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You are posting this on the wrong thread Al, it should be on "Tribunal" I will leave you to delete and repost. Last time I went to do that I hit the wrong button, lost the post and got accused of censoring invalid carriage material!
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Hello Pete etc.,
The best breakdown which I had in the Daf was when the nut holding the belt wheel thingy came off late at night in Knightsbridge at the peak of the IRA troubles. When I rolled to the side of the road an army chap came up and told me that "you can't leave that here". Anyway I did. The bad news was that I had TWO instruments with me (one cello size) and a box of musicwhich I was not prepared to leave in the car. I only got as far as Monument on the last tube. I finally got home thanks to a rather expensive taxi ride to Hornchurch!
Owning the Daf did make me join the AA fortunately. After a week in Durham it would not start. The AA man discovered that the Petrol tank was empty though the gauge said half full.
My brother had a Daf 66 (and earlier a few different Micros.
On the good side my Goggo was not as bad as some as far as rust because it was an import from New Zealand. It also came with a sack full of spares, many of which I needed, as a moron seemed to have been "working" on it. I am quite surprised how much attention in attracts down here when I am out and about.
Maurice
Ah, the vagaries of DAF gauges! Yes, I've been caught out by my 33 like that, as soon as it enters reserve it's in fact dry as a bone. When you get a new DAF you have to run out of petrol only once to learn how accurate the gauge is. Worst of all is the high temperature warning light on the water cooled models which only comes on after you've cooked your cylinder head! :(
I could share many stories about my DAFs. I had had a belt brake on the A12 and the resultant tank slapper saw me on the hard shoulder which turned out to be a ditch full of pebbles. The nearside was buried up the the axle and had no traction, the offside was on Tarmac but had no belt to help drive me out...
DAFs were cheap cars at the time and for a reason - they were built down to a price. Let's see how the average Perodua is looking in 40 years time. On the plus side DAFs enabled many elderly drivers a longer driving life than they would have otherwise had but sadly that also meant that they did get their fair share of abuse and that's partly the reason for their decline. I like to think of mine as a collectors' car because I run around behind it collecting the parts that fall off...frequently. ;D
There is always a sense of trepidation upon starting a journey, especially long ones, that there is a strong possibility that I might not make it without something breaking, hence my boot is always full of spare parts and tools just in case and then the adventure begins! To my mind, that's all part if the fun! :)
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Thanks for those kind words Bob.
Yes, I enjoyed my visit and seeing project 'x'! :-X
I'll look forward to seeing you in DAF land sometime. :)
And I'm DAFt enough to accept the invitation!
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from the headmaster :
big difference between " i had had a belt brake " - tried to figure that out , very veteran motoring ! and" i had had a belt break " ah now i understand but had to try and interpret it
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from the headmaster :
big difference between " i had had a belt brake " - tried to figure that out , very veteran motoring ! and" i had had a belt break " ah now i understand but had to try and interpret it
Apologies for my bad English and glad we got there in the end... ::)
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.I'm missing the B post signal/parking lights and a number plate light. If you have any of those I'd be happy to swap for appropriate beer tokens.
Just checking. You should have two number plate lights in the rear bumper. It is a common dodge to turn bumpers upsidedown and even swap end them to find better chrome, so if the holes are not there look further! The bumper mounted boys do tend to rot out and/or get broken. It is a part shared but it was not ever easy to find good ones whole at Mannheim unless you wanted to pay for them. Earlier cars had several differing arrangements which I imagine you can copy, depends on how you want the car ultimately.
Indicator/parking light is also shared, principally with the Trienkel, where it gets knocked off being at waist height. Not sure on availability now but they have periods of being unavailable. Several types and yours should be the later sort, but again depends how far your going to be right. Sort of thing Mike has from time to time.
If you are looking at new lights it might be worth thinking about period additional indicators as no one tends to look up top for the door post ones and most Goggo saloons have orange brake-lights. You can see how that leads to confusion. My only advice is to not use Lucas as it looks so obviously added. See picture added rubbing out prior message.
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Well, I definitely have the slot for one in the rear bumper but its not there...mine's a '67 model btw.
I'm not too bothered about originality, as and when the correct items turn up then great. In the meantime if there's something that fits and does the job to make her legal then that's fine.
It does concern me being so low down that were I signalling to exit a junction then oncoming cars would have no idea. Certainly some front indicators mounted under the bumpers might help. I can probably mount some DAF66 items as they are underslung too...
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Jolly nearly a BMW then.
About the nicest I have seen is Renault Dauphin British spec units. Someone was selling one recently as for Scootacar. Fits the styling. They are cheap at autojumble as no one seems to know what they are. So that probably does not help you either! But an under-slung unit might be good.
You can retro fit/rewire to the Coupe interrupter system and use flashing sidelights to the front and an extra lamp rear light unit on the back so as to use the existing orange lense. If Mike has not got the black interuptor flasher box, I have some somewhere, but unavailable till autumn probably (moving).
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http://www.ebay.de/itm/Hella-Kennzeichenleuchte-K-28-4-universell-mit-Bauartgenehmigung-von-1970-/300920043029?pt=DE_Autoteile&hash=item46103b7615s
perhaps more helpful to have photographed the one that you do have , rather than the hole - but would it be 1 of these ?
HELLA K2821
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Thanks Richard, it might well be. I'll take a photo next time I'm with the Goggo.
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if it is i do have one , complete with bulb holder but no backing rubber - i am pretty sure repro rubbers are available . don't worry it's not going anywhere .
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Hi Richard
It's not one of these - it fits in the bumper - there should be two of them - I may have one - or two.
Mike
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hi mike well it appears to have had an incorrect fitted recently surely - there is a mark from an exterior fitted light isn't there ?
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http://www.ebay.de/itm/Hella-Kennzeichenleuchte-K-28-4-universell-mit-Bauartgenehmigung-von-1970-/300920043029?pt=DE_Autoteile&hash=item46103b7615s
perhaps more helpful to have photographed the one that you do have , rather than the hole - but would it be 1 of these ?
HELLA K2821
Well that EBay job is the earlier light I mentioned during and after the square rear lights of the flat floor car was removed in favour of the wider higher placed plastic rear lights. A good solution but not mounted on the bumper. As I say turn the bumper over and the holes are lost. You can see why its done. The early unit is not the easiest of units to find and comes in chrome or silver finish. I have one on the St Helena Schmitt.
The later bumper job is a steel trough with contact for the festoon. It sits on a gray rubber and the whole is screwed into place through a plastic lense cover. Early are two part with an ali bezel, later are silver plastic. Both have a sort of prismatic dome to put the light onto the plate. As in pic of blue car.
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just removing catalogue from my scanner and thought this should answer it finally - pictured - the catalogue showing both types of rear bumper light - the type required depends on your chassis number . yours being a late model , '69 i think you said , then it would be part 32b and not 32a as i suggested . chassis number being the decider before or after 73400
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That looks right to me Richard. I managed to get a photo the other day. The missus let me out to play but I didn't want to leave her for too long as she as broken her ankle so has mobility issues...
But, the manual turned up - thanks Campbell! - as did Uwe's catalogue which is quite well laid out for non-German speakers.
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indeed as goggo and al said - goggo did say he may have 1
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But, the manual turned up - thanks Campbell! - as did Uwe's catalogue which is quite well laid out for non-German speakers.
glad it did - would have been annoyed if it hadn't. Hope it proves useful. Now all I need is a manual goggo to go go with my Goggo manual!