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General Category => Unusual Microcar Discussion => Topic started by: kdargson on June 22, 2013, 11:44:51 AM

Title: argson help
Post by: kdargson on June 22, 2013, 11:44:51 AM
Hi all i have just purchased an Argson Invalid carriage and wanting to know if any one knows where i am best starting to look for parts etc.

I am very new to all this so have no idea where to start

thanks

keith 
Title: Re: argson help
Post by: Barry on June 22, 2013, 12:30:56 PM
Welcome Keith

Sounds interesting but with an Invalid carriage you may be banished to the off-topic lounge..................................(I am an Invacar man)

Stuart Cyphus is your main contact for all things invalid.
Title: Re: argson help
Post by: Bob Purton on June 22, 2013, 12:33:25 PM
Please please contact Stuart Cyphus  invacar@yahoo.co.uk
This site is about microcars! ;)
Title: Re: argson help
Post by: richard on June 22, 2013, 12:35:21 PM
and citroens and DAF's  :D
Title: Re: argson help
Post by: Bob Purton on June 22, 2013, 12:43:44 PM
The Daf600 is a microcar and so is a citroen 2CV.  An argson is an invalid carriage.
Title: Re: argson help
Post by: GoggoPete on June 22, 2013, 12:56:31 PM
and citroens and DAF's  :D

Here here that man!

Oh, and welcome Keith. :)
Title: Re: argson help
Post by: Rob Dobie on June 22, 2013, 01:01:20 PM
Argson's are or were microcars for the incapacitated, so don't you forget that Purton. You are lucky to have mobility!
Title: Re: argson help
Post by: richard on June 22, 2013, 01:04:53 PM
and we haven't been discussing 600cc DAF's or Citroen 2CV's either so stick that where the sun don't shine - i.e. anywhere in Britain today - is that why we're all online ?  :)
Title: Re: argson help
Post by: Bob Purton on June 22, 2013, 02:29:42 PM
Ohh eck!! I'm in hot water here!  Just looked at my "kettle" [kettle and hob, fob, alright, WATCH!]
I'm late for band practice, as he speedily retreats followed by a stream of invalids waving there crutches!  :o)
Title: Re: argson help
Post by: Garybond on June 22, 2013, 04:02:57 PM
Could we see a picture of Argson invalid carriage and I will at least know what it looks like is a 2cv a micro?
Title: Re: argson help
Post by: richard on June 22, 2013, 05:16:38 PM
if its the one i am thinking of its an open black leather armchair on spoked wheels , tiller steering and 2 stroke to the rear. could well be wrong . great fun really hairy motoring . not our province really -  look to stuart  ;)
Title: Re: argson help
Post by: Big Al on June 22, 2013, 06:17:23 PM
and citroens and DAF's  :D

Here here that man!

Oh, and welcome Keith. :)


Sorry not allowed to comment on these pictures, nor IC, number plate queries relating to or in general and 2CV, which I did not mention, so I get a small star.  Good luck with your Argson but I fear Stuart has already told you the bad news about spares availability from what he told me several days ago. There are no known spares resources beyond your own endeavors or finding a scrap donor machine. Probably get told off for saying it but I could not help helping even if it did not help. Signing off - Big Al
Title: Re: argson help
Post by: cuscus47 on June 23, 2013, 03:08:39 AM
Keith:  Argson parts are scarce, albeit all IC parts.  They were over-engineered so what is there is probably still good or restorable.  If parts are missing which are proprietary, then most likely only available from scavenging an existing vehicle, if it exists, and in itself not restorable.  Other parts such as motors, bearings, tyres, lights, wiring, simple switches, upholstery, including paintwork or colour, readily available.  I am willing to give you assistance as needed.  Good luck with the project.  Every vehicle, whatever the type, style or original purpose has a history and in it's own right should be preserved.  The argument you find in this venue, is "Does it fit RumCars?"  They did once.  Ian.... :)     Yours is an electric model, even though Argson also made petroil ones as well over the years.
Title: Re: argson help
Post by: kdargson on June 24, 2013, 10:56:08 AM
here is a picture of what was advertised

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Argson-three-wheeled-electric-invalid-carriage-/00/s/NzY4WDEwMjQ=/z/3jUAAOxyMxpRoyQ4/$T2eC16R,!zEE9s3!(Y1TBRoyQ32Ytg~~60_58.JPG)

her is what i received.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/p480x480/969701_10151421033666198_721168770_n.jpg)

I think it could be described as a "project"

keith
Title: Re: argson help
Post by: Jean on June 24, 2013, 11:10:56 AM
Hi Keith,  You need to make contact with Stuart Cyphus who is the one person that has the most information on Invalid Cars as he took them over from RUMCARS and they now have a Register in their own right.  His email address is invacar@yahoo.co.uk   Jean
Title: Re: argson help
Post by: Stuart Cyphus on June 24, 2013, 02:07:43 PM
 Contact made and advice given.
Title: Re: argson help
Post by: richard on June 24, 2013, 05:58:48 PM
Wow what a project. Very much doubt it but if I could ever help whilst jumbling please let me know by message. Good luck - I envy you the task ahead
Title: Re: argson help
Post by: marcus on June 24, 2013, 08:37:52 PM
Quite a project, but good luck with it. Once finished it would be great to see before and after pics. I am not an IC fan, but always glad to see a project completed!
Title: Re: argson help
Post by: Big Al on June 25, 2013, 09:22:29 AM
Oh dear. That's made things a little harder. I hope you got a suitable discount for all the hard work in dismantalling the machine and loosing/breaking one of the important bits. In my experience they always do and expect a reward for it! So here endeth what I understand was an unused original condition machine. still make a cracking rebuild if the parts can be found.
Title: Re: argson help
Post by: kdargson on July 02, 2013, 03:26:40 PM
Well thanks for the reply's guys, think I've had a stroke of luck on my side and found the "missing part"!!  ;D

I understand there is a divide between micro cars and IC's but as far as i can see its another piece of history preserved

As for a progress update now...........

Well from the initial picture things looked a lot worse than they turned out to be! I have stripped back all electronic parts had the chassis wings and a few other parts blasted back to bare metal, at the moment they are in various states of primer to top coat.

I am aiming to get a rolling chassis back together as soon as possible just to make light work of moving it around

As said before this does appear to have never been used inside axle casings etc are all as new with no ware what so ever. 

Thanks for the support

Keith   
Title: Re: argson help
Post by: marcus on July 02, 2013, 03:34:54 PM
Good news.
Yup there is a divide! Even though some ICs and Bubbles/Micros are blood brothers: those like Messershmitts, AC Petites and Velorexes, for example, more-or-less evolved from ICs, or had shared parts. Even though I am not a fan I still like to see that part of motoring history being preserved, so good luck!
Title: Re: argson help
Post by: Big Al on July 02, 2013, 10:34:49 PM
Hurrah.
Title: Re: argson help
Post by: kdargson on July 03, 2013, 09:56:02 AM
here is the donor for the missing tiller and control unit, although time will tell whether this one may also end up getting restored

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1940s-electric-invalid-carriage-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/6vMAAOxymHRRyLQF/$T2eC16NHJHoFGlHTC+thBRyLQFgLng~~60_58.JPG) 


Keith
Title: Re: argson help
Post by: Bob Purton on July 03, 2013, 10:47:24 AM
Good news.
Yup there is a divide! Even though some ICs and Bubbles/Micros are blood brothers: those like Messershmitts, AC Petites and Velorexes, for example, more-or-less evolved from ICs, or had shared parts. Even though I am not a fan I still like to see that part of motoring history being preserved, so good luck!

Nobody has ever argued that they do not deserve there place in motoring history or that they do not deserve to be preserved, just there categorisation and there being lumped in with Microcars. Personally , when I go on a Microcar forum such as this or buy a magazine about Microcars I dont want to see bath chairs and appliances. I want to be transported back to my youth and remember all the great times I had driving bubblecars and be galvanized in the current hobby. AND, before Rob Dobie starts being abusive and asserting that I am being unfeeling towards disable folk and should be grateful I am mobile, if he knew anything at all about me he would know that I actually have for many years done voluntary work for disabled people including driving a tail lift vehicle for the wheelchairs. The argument is irrelevant anyway. I was hoping that after Stuart took over the IC register and started a news letter a specialised forum would  follow, sadly for me and the others that find them a turn off that hasn't been the case, even Stuart appears to have lost interest, or is he unwell at present? I dont know.  Anyway, before anyone starts, just remember forums are for expressing ones opinions and feelings, I'm  just as entitled to express mine as you are. And to Kieth, I wish you the very best of luck with your project. Its great to do something you are interested in, each to his own.