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General Category => Off Topic Lounge => Topic started by: Bob Purton on October 07, 2013, 10:19:09 AM

Title: How's this for a cracking outfit!
Post by: Bob Purton on October 07, 2013, 10:19:09 AM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Scott-flying-Squirrel-600-with-sidecar-boat-/121167000026?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item1c361db1da#ht_1393wt_986
Title: Re: How's this for a cracking outfit!
Post by: marcus on October 07, 2013, 11:49:20 AM
Beaut, Ship-shape and Bristol Fashion. A Scott regularly visits the bike shop in our yard, nice looking bikes.
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Post by: AndrewG on October 07, 2013, 07:23:33 PM
For those that think a Scott is a bit fancy, here is the same idea on a Ural/Dniepr, with matching teardrop trailer.

(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k115/angibb/ural-teardrop_zpsbd864331.jpg) (http://s86.photobucket.com/user/angibb/media/ural-teardrop_zpsbd864331.jpg.html)
Title: Re: How's this for a cracking outfit!
Post by: richard on October 07, 2013, 07:30:49 PM
Well I like them both BUT they look awfull together !
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Post by: Barry on October 07, 2013, 08:20:01 PM
Shame it doesn't have wings.

I am not too sure about how suitable a two stroke Scott is for pulling a side boat?

This is more like it........................A proper sidecar outfit.
Title: Re: How's this for a cracking outfit!
Post by: marcus on October 07, 2013, 08:30:36 PM
Very nice Ural/Dneipr combo, but it has to be said that when a bike has so much outboard it occupies almost as much space as a camper van! 2 "Urinals" used to visit our yard, with side cars, reverse gear, and a machine gun mount on the ex-military one!
Title: Re: How's this for a cracking outfit!
Post by: richard on October 07, 2013, 08:31:23 PM
Yes barry but what's your point ? It just looks to be a bog standard grass track sidecar outfit
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Post by: Barry on October 07, 2013, 09:12:36 PM
Yes barry but what's your point ? It just looks to be a bog standard grass track sidecar outfit

I think it's just lovely - not at all pretentious or 'perfect' (sea worthy).  Hard as nails engineering to do the job it is supposed to do.  It's all down to personal taste I suppose. 
Title: Re: How's this for a cracking outfit!
Post by: Bob Purton on October 07, 2013, 10:47:56 PM
I do worry about you sometime Barry! :D

I also wondered about the suitability of a two stroke for chair pulling but then again we saw how those modern Jawa's  are mated with chairs and are fine by all accounts, ask Jim.
Title: Re: How's this for a cracking outfit!
Post by: Barry on October 07, 2013, 11:10:17 PM
You worry about me Bob? I worry about myself.

And here is one for you. An early eco friendly outfit.
Title: Re: How's this for a cracking outfit!
Post by: Barry on October 08, 2013, 07:25:03 AM
And a few more sidecars can be found here.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/n5xxen00utyg6lz/-1PrG0KIIe
Title: Re: How's this for a cracking outfit!
Post by: marcus on October 08, 2013, 08:15:28 AM
I like the KR and VW Splittie van side cars!
My brother used to have a Beeza with a wooden coffin side car!
Title: Re: How's this for a cracking outfit!
Post by: Barry on October 08, 2013, 09:21:19 AM
One of my early experiences was when one of the Skin-heads (1973) had upset the only 'Greaser' girl in the school. and the Skin-head girls (Dorises?) were going to beat her up.
The local greaser gang called the 'Purple Hearts' turned up on mass at the end of school on British bikes, what a roar, with a side car at the front - a coffin just like you have described Marcus.
The Greaser girl calmly walked across the playground and was picked-up by the gang.
A few of the bikers decided to chase the main skin head (Steve 'Noddy' Brown) for a while across the fields.  He soon learned to run fast.
Quite a few years later I became friends with Noddy brown who now looked like a member of ZZ top with leathers and a long beard.
The experience of being chased across the field was always a great tale.   No one troubled the bike girl (as hot as hot can be) ever again.
This was all a bit of a surreal experience that stuck in my mind forever - our school was a very ordinary comprehensive with little or no real trouble.
Title: Re: How's this for a cracking outfit!
Post by: Bob Purton on October 08, 2013, 10:03:44 AM
And don't tell me, her name was Leslie, you married her and lived happily ever after?

Love the photo of the dog in the sidecar doing the leaning out!
Title: Re: How's this for a cracking outfit!
Post by: richard on October 08, 2013, 01:30:45 PM
When I return home to my laptop I look forward to posting a pic. Of a little grey Fergie tractor . It's not a microcar or indeed rare but following barry's logic - " it's lovely not at all pretentious or "perfect" . Hard as nails engineering to do the job it's supposed to do.it's all down to personal taste I suppose " ;).   a photo of a garden spade will be next after that  ;D
Title: Re: How's this for a cracking outfit!
Post by: marcus on October 08, 2013, 02:04:58 PM
I love Fergies, a relative had a small farm in Cumbria and he sometimes let me drive his ancient grey Fergie around the fields when I was 10.

Harry Ferguson invented the three point harness/hook-up for tractors and revolutionised tractors and farming overnight, genius. And micro, compared to modern tractors!
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Post by: Rob Dobie on October 08, 2013, 02:14:50 PM
Here's some photos to tie a motorcycle combination to microcars. All taken on vintage box cameras in the 1960-70s.
My Panther combination sold in 1963 to buy the Bond Mk C. Then roll on to 1975, I was given back the combo in '76 when I swapped it for the Tourette.
Title: Re: How's this for a cracking outfit!
Post by: Barry on October 08, 2013, 02:34:12 PM
I love Fergies, a relative had a small farm in Cumbria and he sometimes let me drive his ancient grey Fergie around the fields when I was 10.

Harry Ferguson invented the three point harness/hook-up for tractors and revolutionised tractors and farming overnight, genius. And micro, compared to modern tractors!

Perfect Marcus  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: richard on October 08, 2013, 02:44:35 PM
Well you didn't respond to the garden spade Marcus - or am I digging a hole ?  :D
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Post by: marcus on October 08, 2013, 02:55:54 PM
My only interest in spades is when they are getting spudtatties out of the ground, nom!

Another nerdy factoid about Fergies: to demonstrate and publicise the revolutionary new harness HF contacted a small company which made injection moulded plastic combs and commissioned them to make a plastic model of a grey Fergie. Tooling was far easier if it was assembled from several parts...a kit....and this was the start of the Airfix all us anoraks know and love.

Yet another Nerdy Fergie factoid: I believe that large engine parts on the Fergie were also used on London Taxis, land Rovers and Austin Healeys, but happy to be corrected if wrong.

Title: Re: How's this for a cracking outfit!
Post by: richard on October 08, 2013, 03:20:34 PM
Well that is interesting . So something came out of Barry's topic
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Post by: marcus on October 08, 2013, 04:17:09 PM
For sure, and I don't mind a bit of thread drift in Off Topic!

(Is "Off Topic" any relation to "Rotten Snickers"?!)
Title: Re: How's this for a cracking outfit!
Post by: Rob Dobie on October 08, 2013, 05:02:03 PM
I always thought the Fergie engine was based on the one fitted to the Standard Vanguard and Triumph Renown, both of which I had at the same time as my collection of microcars.
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Post by: marcus on October 08, 2013, 06:09:17 PM
Could be those! Possibly all of them!

I remember being told it was the lower part of the engine and it was used for some petrol and even some diesel engines, but perhaps my memory is playi...

....damn, I can't remember what I was going to write!
Title: Re: How's this for a cracking outfit!
Post by: Barry on October 08, 2013, 06:14:43 PM
Well that is interesting . So something came out of Barry's topic

Bobs Topic - He is the perpetrator of all this interesting stuff!
Title: Re: How's this for a cracking outfit!
Post by: Barry on October 08, 2013, 07:43:35 PM
You worry about me Bob? I worry about myself.

And here is one for you. An early eco friendly outfit.

http://www.britishpathe.com/video/new-electric-cycle/query/Winn
Title: Re: How's this for a cracking outfit!
Post by: Garybond on October 08, 2013, 07:54:12 PM
Harry Ferguson was in the same mould as Laurie Bond and all the other icons of British engineering genius
The Ferguson was made by the Standard motor company and all the engines expect the early continental were made at there Canley plant for the tractors and there cars including some of the TR range
It also powered some of the later MF135 petrol tractors in the seventies
Title: Re: How's this for a cracking outfit!
Post by: Bob Purton on October 08, 2013, 08:32:08 PM
Nothing to do with his aircraft engines then?
Title: Re: How's this for a cracking outfit!
Post by: marcus on October 08, 2013, 08:54:30 PM
Great video Barry! And cheers for the info issysuy, makes sense that it was used in TRs rather than Healeys!

Slight drift but vaguely connected: I think Norman de Bruyn should be far better known as another great scientist/inventor. He was one of the main inventors of 2 pack adhesives, paints and sealing, including Araldite, Aerolite and Redux pkus others, and plus thousands of copies of his products around the world, licensed or not!

Redux uses epoxy glue at high temperature and pressure to bond things extremely strongly, including all windows in pressurised aircraft, without Redux Whittle's jet Engine would have been no more than a purposeless curiosity! I know of no cases where Redux has failed in flight! Sadly, when de Havilland was designing the Mk1 Comet jet Airliner they just could not believe that this fantastic new adhesive process alone would be safe, so they insisted on adding metal plates and rivets, and it was stress cracks caused by these that led to the failures. Furthermore, with just Redux, even the infamous square shape of the Mk 1's windows would not have been a problem: other jet planes like the Lockheed L 1011 Tristar have even squarer windows, and no failures as far s I know.
Title: Re: How's this for a cracking outfit!
Post by: Rob Dobie on October 08, 2013, 10:53:38 PM
How amazing! My Mum did housework for a Brigadier Gordon de Bruyne and family in the '60s. He was a relation of Norman. They had lots of land in South America and farmed sheep etc.
Also in late '74 I bought Brigadier Gordon's 1954 Triumph Renown later selling it in '76 to fund the start of my micro collection. This thread is getting better and better. Bad photo shows the Renown after I resprayed it.
Title: Re: How's this for a cracking outfit!
Post by: marcus on October 09, 2013, 07:58:12 AM
Nice one Rob, small world!
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Post by: Barry on November 05, 2013, 09:55:14 PM
Even if you can't speak French or Russian it's a great watch - The Japs have got a lot to learn!  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyKHtyheBJU
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Post by: marcus on November 06, 2013, 01:18:07 PM
Just seen it, great stuff, cheers! The presenter nearly got into trouble on that right hand bend...holding back the weight and momentum of the heavy combo with one leg...!