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General Category => Unusual Microcar Discussion => Topic started by: piatti on March 02, 2014, 03:58:49 PM

Title: Mopetta high resolution pics...
Post by: piatti on March 02, 2014, 03:58:49 PM
I'm looking for these pictures in high resolution. I already talked to getty images, but they will not provide it to a private person.
Does anyone have these pics in high resolution or own the mecanic illustration journal and is able to scan the article with this pictures?

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7365/12881187865_4075e27f30.jpg)
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3766/12881281023_27326367c9.jpg)
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7421/12881190115_82967ee9e6.jpg)
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3816/12881193425_46fab24863.jpg)

thanks, Oliver
Title: Re: Mopetta high resolution pics...
Post by: Rusty Chrome (Malcolm Parker) on March 03, 2014, 12:29:43 AM
Hi Oliver

For what it's worth there are very slightly larger versions on this Russian website.
http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/irena_69/post216658565/ (http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/irena_69/post216658565/)

It obviously depends on how large you want to print them, but the quality is such that these would still produce very good results if you just scale up the image size in photoshop to 300dpi or more. I very much doubt scans from a magazine would produce better images as you get all sorts of problems with the dot screening that would have been used.
Title: Re: Mopetta high resolution pics...
Post by: piatti on March 03, 2014, 07:39:11 AM
thanks - thats a good starting point.
Title: Re: Mopetta high resolution pics...
Post by: Chris Thomas on March 03, 2014, 11:21:02 AM
Dear All

Do we know the name of the person in the photographs, Could it be Mike Pollock-Hill?

Can anybody confirm or provide an alternative name?

Chris Thomas
Rumcar News
Title: Re: Mopetta high resolution pics...
Post by: Trident on March 03, 2014, 11:54:24 AM
I was led to believe it was Rupert P Froggatt, from Abbey Bridge Garage, Lenton, Nottingham.
The plan was to manufacture cars under the "Bruetsch" (note the different spelling) name and sold from premises in Sherwin Road, Nottingham. How many were made  remains a mystery. Of course Mopettas are still produced in Nottingham to this day.
Title: Re: Mopetta high resolution pics...
Post by: richard on March 03, 2014, 12:46:13 PM
A strange one that . When i met Mr. Froggatts son he never mentioned his father or himself driving a Mopetta though he did mention the appalling handling of the larger early Bruetsch Spatz cars and how one swerved around on some manoevre and completed a 360`turn ! This at the bottom of Bunny Hill to any who might know Nottingham  ;) But he was talking of another driver at least on that occasion .  Heres a picture of the Early cars that came over in 1955 to be considered .
I have reason to suspect that Olivers photo's date from 1958 and the Mopetta is not that one featured on the Bruetsch stand of 1956 Motorcycle show
Title: Re: Mopetta high resolution pics...
Post by: piatti on March 03, 2014, 12:53:02 PM
the getty archives says:

April 1958: The 50cc Mopetta from the Brutsch stables at Stuttgart is available in London at a cost of ?200. The one-seater, three-wheeler has a maximum speed of 21 miles per hour. (Photo by Rosemary Matthews/BIPs/Getty Images)

I guess that the given time and photographers name are correct

Title: Re: Mopetta high resolution pics...
Post by: Rusty Chrome (Malcolm Parker) on March 03, 2014, 05:25:27 PM
Its the same reg car as that used in the road test in The Motor - 25th December 1957 which that article states was supplied by MPHW Sales Ltd, 23 Piccadilly, London W1. But doesn't this car/driver feature in a movietone clip as well?
Title: Re: Mopetta high resolution pics...
Post by: Chris Thomas on March 03, 2014, 05:53:04 PM
Dear Malcolm

MPHW is Michael Pollock-Hill Williams, hence the previous question. As the car is shown driving in Central London it is more likely to be Pollock Hill or Williams rather than Froggatts.

Chris Thomas
Rumcar News
Title: Re: Mopetta high resolution pics...
Post by: richard on March 03, 2014, 06:05:22 PM
for those using this as reference i am fairly sure that Bunny Hill would be no relation to Pollock- Hill  ;D so don't pursue that one
Title: Re: Mopetta high resolution pics...
Post by: richard on March 03, 2014, 09:51:27 PM
This is my original Bruetsch price list . the prices were nominal as in fact they never got so far as actualy taking orders and by 1957/8 any MPHW Mopettas would have not come via Froggatts at Nottingham - the deal with Herr Bruetsch fell through - if there ever was one indeed .
Title: Re: Mopetta high resolution pics...
Post by: Big Al on March 04, 2014, 07:23:09 AM
for those using this as reference i am fairly sure that Bunny Hill would be no relation to Pollock- Hill  ;D so don't pursue that one

Indeed so, He was in the habit of being chased by playgirls. His son turned that into a popular TV sketch or two. Just thought I would Breutsch the topic.
What do these cars have to do with the ones in Scotland?
Title: Re: Mopetta high resolution pics...
Post by: piatti on March 06, 2014, 09:13:52 AM
Just popped up on eBay... I didn't know this article. Glad, the seller added large pics :-)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7312/12965745055_c49c851d43.jpg)
Title: Re: Mopetta high resolution pics...
Post by: Big Al on March 06, 2014, 01:58:46 PM
Beeb Beeb?
Title: Re: Mopetta high resolution pics...
Post by: piatti on March 14, 2014, 04:49:46 PM
same car?

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3730/13150158663_f6f7d52bd9_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Mopetta high resolution pics...
Post by: richard on March 14, 2014, 06:44:15 PM
WOW !! Oliver i have only just realised that the top set of pictures - posed around London - were probably all a " set up " there is not even a recoil starter fitted to the car ! So the top set of photo's show an immobile car  I think . WOW !

it seems to be a different car i think , obviously if the  RHD wing mirror and hooter had been fitted first there would be marks in the bodywork , of course the German photo's could have been taken first , before the starter gave up the ghost ( broke )

i think i have this the wrong way round  :)
Title: Re: Mopetta high resolution pics...
Post by: steven mandell on March 16, 2014, 08:23:03 AM
I hope the Henschell wasn't hungry.
Title: Re: Mopetta high resolution pics...
Post by: Big Al on March 16, 2014, 08:37:03 AM
I thought the advertising story was it was towing the Henshell.
Title: Re: Mopetta high resolution pics...
Post by: richard on March 16, 2014, 10:50:17 AM
a lot of Herr Bruetsch's photo's follow a theme - might this be the same car ? this time rather poor photo from a later edition of Deutsch Kleinwagen
Title: Re: Mopetta high resolution pics...
Post by: Big Al on March 16, 2014, 06:55:59 PM
One ex Zero Mostel wig between two never works, does it?
Title: Re: Mopetta high resolution pics...
Post by: richard on March 16, 2014, 07:54:35 PM
Well al you have no idea what you started ! The name Zero Mostel meant nothing to me , so i googled , as you do . i then had an entertaining few minutes watching him singing his " if i were a rich man " from the film Fiddler on the Roof which i haven't seen for years and love . this lead to a link to Lee Marvin singing "Wandrin Star " !
My son is home for the first time in weeks , for roast lamb sunday dinner , and wondered what the heck i was listening to ! OMG dad , or words to that effect , yep it wasnt all Beatles and Rolling Stones in 60's and 70's i said .
The Fiddler on The Roof film i explained was about a poor Jewish farmer and his relationship with God . This led to a little Theology and my son then told me of a young lad who had asked God for a new bike , he then thought God doesn't work like that ! ....... so he went out and stole a bike , and then asked for forgiveness !
on the basis that God doesn't give new bikes to people ....... but he will forgive you if you steal one and ask for forgiveness  ;)

Title: Re: Mopetta high resolution pics...
Post by: Big Al on March 17, 2014, 07:08:59 AM
Yep, that was a basis of a few Christian Empires. We only killed them for their own good. The confusion is religion has not got a whole lot to do with God. It might claim to, but where is the evidence. Actually someone thought it up and then claimed God told them to write it. Yeah, right. Then to make this right you are coerced into a belief system, by naughty activities or threats of death. Do I think God is like that. No, but people are. So its mostly bollocks actually, isn't it. CASE SOLVED.

Zero Mostel, 'The Producers', Brilliant. He was the original 'A funny thing happened on the way to the Forum'. with Phil Silvers running the brothel next door, also brilliant. That sporned FRankie Howerd's Lurkio and 'Up Pompei'.
Title: Re: Mopetta high resolution pics...
Post by: richard on March 17, 2014, 12:55:25 PM
Will look out for it . But now return to no religion or politics on the forum  ;)