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Title: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: MarkSnowden on June 27, 2014, 09:43:57 PM
Hi all, I'm new here but not to the world of microcars. I am looking for information regarding the date of the Open Day this year. I know it's usually the last Sunday in July, is this the case this year?

Mark
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: Bob Purton on June 27, 2014, 09:50:56 PM
Hi Mark and welcome to the nut house!

Open day is 27th July. Hope to see you there. Has Dave converted you to Isetta ownership yet? ;D
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: MarkSnowden on June 28, 2014, 06:21:06 PM
Hi Bob, Thanks for the welcome and the confirmation of the date. After another year of working on Isettas with Dave I find my resolve to NOT own one is even stronger. I find it interesting that when a problem or fault appears with a customer's car Dave's response is usually either "That's a design fault!" or "That's one of those weaknesses!" I am concerned about the lack of fuses in the car; just one to protect only the indicators, horn, brake lights and wiper motor. That leaves everything else unprotected, scary!!

Mark
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: Big Al on June 28, 2014, 07:01:08 PM
Hi Mark

Its the back up heater system common to many British cars. With the Isetta you get the extra option of a heated seat, by leaving the battery posts exposed. Why didn't Volvo think of that?
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: Bob Purton on June 28, 2014, 07:47:26 PM
Yes that doesn't inspire confidence does it.  Dave that is, not the fuse situation! ;D
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: MarkSnowden on June 28, 2014, 08:45:27 PM
Yes Al, I remember Dave asked me to get into one to adjust the door lock. Within a few moments there was a nasty smell in the car, and it wasn't me. I ignored it at first but then smoke was rising from below, PANIC!!! I've never got out of any car quicker. Dave came running with the CO2 extinguisher and all was well. Exposed springs and exposed battery terminals are not a good combination. Pure madness fitting the battery INSIDE the car in the first place. I took a friends Messerschmitt for an MOT test some years ago and the tester failed it for having the battery inside the car. He said it was "Plain dangerous." He waffled on about Hydrogen gas in confined spaces, it made sense to me.

Mark
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: Bob Purton on June 28, 2014, 09:20:58 PM
Things do not look good for me then as my G-wiz has eight whopping great batteries inside the car. Passes the MOT every time!
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: Barry on June 28, 2014, 10:53:08 PM
' I love the smell of Hydrogen in the morning'
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: Big Al on June 29, 2014, 01:13:19 AM
Indeed gas bottles live outside. But the odd green dweller reaching 10,000 feet is probably OK, Bob. Interesting observation. Bats in or out?

Isetta needed the Bat in the door jam instead of the counterbalance.
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: Bob Purton on June 29, 2014, 08:22:06 AM
Yes, only for the RHD version though.
What makes Marks point less valid is that with Isetta's the carbon monoxide from the leaky exhaust manifold will get you long before a smidge of hydrogen! ;D

Design faults would make an interesting thread topic.
I am starting a new one and lets see if owners will be honest about the design faults on there beloved favourite cars. See new thread, this one was supposed to be about the open day.
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: Big Al on June 29, 2014, 11:22:29 AM
Its a design fault of the forum, Bob. Let the day be Open and sunshiny.
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: Bob Purton on July 22, 2014, 08:42:08 AM
Well the open day is almost upon us. Who is going???
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: Chris Thomas on July 22, 2014, 09:35:50 AM
Dear Bob

Providing I wake up on Sunday I will be there.

Chris Thomas
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: Barry on July 22, 2014, 09:53:43 AM
Every intention of being there.  May bring the IC...... ;D
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: Bob Purton on July 22, 2014, 11:29:15 AM
If you do Barry, you may find that you will need an IC on a daily basis there after.  ;D
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: Rob Dobie on July 22, 2014, 12:23:12 PM
At the moment I'm afraid I won't be there as my intended chauffeur has had his car smashed in at the rear!
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: richard on July 22, 2014, 02:06:23 PM
You were hoping for Tony weren't you ? Not him then I hope
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: Rob Dobie on July 22, 2014, 04:24:55 PM
Er, yes, but he is not hurt so I understand.
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: Jean on July 22, 2014, 05:13:16 PM
Yes Tony is in the country, at Milton Keynes at the moment.   He has had some sort rear end damage done to his car but because it is a French car, on French plates and French insurance but owned by an Englishman living in France but who speaks little French, the paper work is a nightmare.  Tony is OK but until he can get the insurance claim sorted there is not much he can do, he is stuck in Milton Keynes!
Nice to hear Malcolm Parker will be joining us (he has booked into the camp site, that's how I know. Lesley has reserved the site for micronaughts for the weekend but it would be nice to know who may be joining us.
Is anyone coming from the Hertfordshire area with a tow bar, we were trying to get the Potton Historic Champion Saloon to us.  They have a trailer but their  towing vehicle  has broken down. Jean
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: Peel replica, Steve Fisk on July 22, 2014, 10:02:55 PM
Can I have more info on this Hertfordshire pick up please ?  I might be able to help
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: Jean on July 23, 2014, 06:27:44 PM
I have sent you an email Steve.  See you and the family Sunday.Jean
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: NickPoll on July 23, 2014, 07:09:48 PM
Hello,
      Does anyone have contact details fore Tony this week ? If he needs help sorting out his French insurance maybe we can help him.            Nick.
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: Rob Dobie on July 26, 2014, 01:46:36 PM
The only number I have is his home one in France. I always used to ring him. Don't know if he has a mobile. No contact for about two weeks. Only heard of the shunt from Jean. Tony hasn't got in touch?

Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: Jean on July 26, 2014, 06:51:09 PM
Stop press! I heard about two hours ago Tony is mobile again and on his way to pick up Rob Dobie, so they both should be with us to morrow!   Jean
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: milnes on July 26, 2014, 09:43:30 PM
Hope everyone has a great day tomorrow. Sorry i won't be there  :(
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: Rob Dobie on July 27, 2014, 08:00:27 AM
Tony arrived last evening! So we will be there after all.  ;D
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: Bob Purton on July 28, 2014, 09:00:27 AM
I think I can safely say that the openday this year was a resounding success! I don't know if this is my imagination but it feels like the people in attendance is increasing and the cars are dropping. I dare say Jean has the figures and I may be wrong.
There were certainly some interesting people there this year. I was very pleased to make the acquaintance of David and Marion Carter. David worked at Carr brothers in the 1950's making chassis' for progress scooters and the Tourette car, I was able to glean a few distant memories from him. I also was pleased to have a chat with Alan Hatswell of Cursor fame, an interesting character. Just when we were thinking that a gent in a lovely NSU Prinze sport had driven a microcar the furthest distance to the event coming from the Isle of Wight a Frisky sport appeared at the gates piloted by my friend  Pierrick [An Inter owner] having come from Lille France for the day.
What with all the things to see and folk to chat with I completely missed the opportunity to meet Chris Rees who's books I am a fan of.
I think the star of the day and worthy winner of the peoples choice award was a fine 2CV based wooden bodied one off car. I think for most of us this was the first time we had seen this one and very impressive it was too. 
All together a great day!  Many thanks to Jean, Leslie and Michael for organising the event. Also, thanks for dinner on the Saturday evening!
My apologies to you jean, what with all the excitment I completely forgot to say goodbye to you before I left!
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: blob on July 28, 2014, 09:07:30 AM
I second that, it was great to see everyone yesterday, was good to meet Pierrick of whom I briefly spoke to many moons ago, nice to see the Frisky Sport shoot past me when walking from the station!   >:(

I had a fairly long chat with the owner/constructor of the wooden bodied 2CV based car, not only had the body been laid up by hand using wooden strips bonded around ply sections, (bit like building a model airplane fuselage), but a portion of the front had actually been steamed! Intriguingly his wife explained how he'd very cleverly utilized some of her kitchen implements, for example: the front grill surround was originally a serving dish, the ports either side were from the bottom of another metal dish of some description, whilst the central piece of the windscreen frame was actually crafted from a large serving spoon.

Rob, I forgive you for not recognizing me, looks like I've been out of the loop too long, though much impressed by the Hammond's improvements to the site since I was last there, roll on next year.
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: Peel replica, Steve Fisk on July 28, 2014, 10:08:20 AM
My little family and I had a really good day to, my son was more in to the chickens and Shetland , my hi light was to see Jaime getting his peel running and driving around ,oh and of corse meeting you lot !
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: Jean on July 28, 2014, 01:44:57 PM
I just want to say thank you to everyone who mucked in a helped on the day without even being asked.  Especial thanks must go to Michael and Lesley for all their hard work because I am afraid my contribution to the preparations are rather limited these days.  I agree with Bob more people and less cars.  Chris counted 20 vehicles which included the 3 scooters and 2 hot rods.  However everyone seemed have enjoyed themselves. the weather was kind and there lots of interesting people to talk to.  It was tiring but oh so well worthwhile, I hope Leslie and Michael will invite us again next year!
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: richard on July 28, 2014, 08:38:40 PM
the wooden 2cv thing seems a common theme -
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Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: Rusty Chrome (Malcolm Parker) on July 29, 2014, 11:37:04 AM
We just got back last night and had a fantastic time. Thanks to Michael, Lesley, Jean, Jamie and anyone else involved for making the open day possible. It was great to finally see the Hammond collection in the flesh and to hear more about the legendary Delta car project at Potton as well as learning how to turn humble kitchen implements into stainless steel car trim.  Where else do you get the chance to see two Friskys, two Unicars and two Cursors all on the same day?
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: richard on July 29, 2014, 12:55:03 PM
oops . one sterling and one unicar i think - yes both Opperman though . wish i had been there myself but in a way i had my own open day and new neighbours , one on each side strange that  ;) , saw the delightful Gordon for the first time .
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: Rob Dobie on July 29, 2014, 01:16:07 PM
No. Right first time. one green and one blue Unicar = two plus the Sterling. As you say, you weren't there to see them all.
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: richard on July 29, 2014, 02:22:44 PM
oh wow ! very sorry both . that must have been a treat . what else was there then , is there a list ?
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: micro marshall on July 29, 2014, 02:44:45 PM
If you missed the open day or just want to experience it again, the open day highlights video is up on Youtube. ;D ;D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGou9WVLgXk&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: richard on July 29, 2014, 03:04:50 PM
thanks jamie , guess that answers the Unicar querie  :D i bet he was very interested to cross reference .- pity jean insisted you include the music on the video jamie
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: micro marshall on July 29, 2014, 03:29:38 PM
unfortunately i have been having problems with the cameras microphone and so the video sounded really bad in parts, so the music makes it sound better, i am trying to get it fixed before Thursday throw. ;D ;)
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: Bob Purton on July 29, 2014, 06:02:57 PM
Thanks for the video Dodger.  I enjoyed that music so take no notice of the old fogie! ;D Its a shame you didn't get any footage of The Frisky sport though.
Its not often there are two Inter owners in the same field but there was last Sunday. I think the last time I could say that was at Story 2002.
Have fun on the Isle of Man where I guess there will be quite a lot of Peel owners in the same field!
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: micro marshall on July 29, 2014, 06:11:49 PM
I can blame the peel for making me miss the frisky because i was busy learning how to drive it. We are still trying to find a way of mounting 'L' plates on it. ;D :D
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: Bob Purton on July 29, 2014, 07:37:10 PM
I guessed you were preoccupied for most of the day as nearly all the footage was of people leaving!
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: Rusty Chrome (Malcolm Parker) on July 29, 2014, 08:26:19 PM
Thanks for posting the video. Here's a photo of the Frisky
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: milnes on July 29, 2014, 08:43:56 PM
Thanks for posting the video, looks like i missed a great day.
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: marcus on July 30, 2014, 03:52:20 PM
I had two Mini Countrymen and a Mini Clubman Estate and all three had the battery under the back seat. There was a little vinyl cover to go over the terminals to stop them from touching the steel frame under the rear seat. If you forgot to put the cover back on, or if the cover had been damaged (by being squashed between the terminals and the seat frame) then the smoke and smell quickly alerted you to the problem.

The first time it happened to me, the steel frame work had heated up enough to char and smoulder  the plywood seat base which sat on the frame.

Worse still, to remove or replace the battery you had to tip the front seat forwards, lift up the front-hinged rear seat and rest it against your legs, then bend right over it to lift or lower the battery, back aches GUARANTEED!

Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: marcus on July 30, 2014, 04:05:45 PM
Thanks for the video which I have just watched. I wish I could have been there, I had planned to come down from London with Mike, but had to work.

I like the 2CV Special, it looks a bit like a Blackjack Avion, very stylish.
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: micro marshall on July 30, 2014, 08:00:06 PM
The peel on the trailer ready to leave, complete with the 'L' plates. That should make Bob and Steve happy. I also ran it again before we put it on the trailer so i got a bit more practice. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: Peel replica, Steve Fisk on July 30, 2014, 09:06:09 PM
Well done mate !!!!
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: chavattov on August 02, 2014, 10:05:11 AM
Thanks for posting the video. Here's a photo of the Frisky

thanks for those nice moments spend with you.
see you soon. Pierrick
Title: Re: Open Day at The Hammond Collection
Post by: richard on August 07, 2014, 08:39:59 AM
I wonder what the answer is to this one , I really would like to read the full letter published in the magazine , but which mag ? Does anyone here have friends who have any back issues ? Thanks