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General Category => Unusual Microcar Discussion => Topic started by: Bob Purton on October 11, 2014, 03:14:47 PM
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Inters are still out there and being found.
Just heard from a French chap who has just liberated this previously unknown one. Lucky him.
Same colour as mine too. Looks like it needs some new rubber bands though.
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Great news, hope to see more around.
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yep , lovely to see new finds and unrestored cars. At NMCR Mike was exhibiting his unrestored 1951 Mochet, Chris had asked for something " unusual " for the RUM stall, it got a lot of attention - as did the two other French unrestored cars .Everything else did seem a bit too been there done that .......
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Funny you should say that Richard, Dave Watson has just put out the call for unrestored Isetta's for the NEC next month. He said they will get more attention than shiny ones.
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We find this with the tractors as well
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no surprise surely , don't we all spend more time tyre kicking and teeth sucking a project rather than a resto ? - thats my excuse for not getting on with it anyway :)
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Looks like a good Inter at that.
The enthusiasts like to see stuff as found and such. Yet the NEC advertises to get the public in by offering showman stuff from films etc. Some of the public will probably not understand why tatty cars are on show. This was certainly the case at Bristol when we ran a series of stands, many including a wreck, either as it was rare and the only one available to us, or a before and after display. However for the more interested they proved good draws.
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It does look like a good Inter. I hope Didier has the windscreen though as there is no parts supplier to call and order one from.
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no surprise surely , don't we all spend more time tyre kicking and teeth sucking a project rather than a resto ? - thats my excuse for not getting on with it anyway :)
Errrr? No , I think that's just you Richard. The rest of us are getting on with it! ;D
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Indeed so. It is light relief from building, which I cannot say I enjoy. The payback is you can then go out with the thing and create interest and feedback by driving it, even if its the Shopper round events. All depends on the day job and situation I suppose.
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I still get a HUGE amount of fun and enjoyment from the hobby Bob ;) I still reckon that the featured Inter could draw as much attention on a rally field as a restored one .
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I would say that this is an inter-esting thread, but if I did you would all groan, and quite rightly too. So without inter-val or inter-ruption I clear off back to the remote fringes of the inter net.
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I still get a HUGE amount of fun and enjoyment from the hobby Bob ;) I still reckon that the featured Inter could draw as much attention on a rally field as a restored one .
I agree HM. It probably would. So are you suggesting we all leave the cars as we found them after dragging them out of hedges, ponds etc?
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not at all Bob , i only make the observation that in this condition they do draw a tremendous deal of attention
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A lot of people do like seeing a barn find, but then the also like to see it brought back to life and good condition.
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44th registerd ! hope the owner will send more info to complete the registration ...
good original condition !
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44 out of just over 300 made. This is a good survival rate.
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That is remarkable , is that survival rate peculiar to Inters or France in general ?
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No there is only one France, but it is surviving reasonably well.
Interesting as much of France is rural and a man has his sheds. Therefore stuff gets stashed. Yet to really be a top survivor folk should really like the machine and not want to chuck it away, or sell it. Does the Inter fall in this category?
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44 is worldwilde ... versus the 283 built ...
in that registratiion, they are from bob's model, fully restored to boby and parts ..
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283? How do you explain chassis number 308 on your register?
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Like many manufacturers they probably started at 101 rather than 1.
Chris Thomas
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Close Chris, there is a thousand in front of all the numbers I mentioned. Mine however just has 15 stamped on the body so is either pre-production or before they started adding the thousand.
My question to Jean-Do has to do with the Inter on the register with number 1308 indicating that the number produced went over 300.
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/inter175a/photos/albums/1546312363/lightbox/
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that link doesn't work for the rest of us Bob , you must be registered
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Bob, prod number are 283 .... but officiel documents from " service des mines" that alloys legal production start with all technical infos about one model, starts at number "1036 ( prototype) "......
you own the 1015 ...GD in France owns the 1019-1022(inter alu plate is different from chassis ) , so it would give 319 inter builts with JLP 1308 as the biggest number chassis registred ..
a guy from Villeurbanne factory, told me that after the end of that inter story, a man in Lyon had bought all parts, chassis from the SNCAN factory, and tried to sold some INters rebuilt with them ... is 1308 made with , and in fact " extra prod" numbers ?? actually, i don't know ..
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Hi Jean-do. Thanks for that. So I think I will continue to say about 300 were made to be on the safe side.
What I would like to know is if any other early cars just have the number stamped on the body without the 10 in front of the number. Mine just has 15 stamped on body and engine cover. It never had an aluminium plate.
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the 1 000 is never stamped ... they are all .. 15 .....182.....308 .......the pre-series like yours, have full rear hood louvers , the only real big difference
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Does the aluminium plate have the 1000 on it?
Mine does not have any hood louvers at all.
I think we have to face it, they are all different!
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Perhaps Bob's car ,being a starter,is not so much h'ors d'oevre but sans louvre
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hi bob , looking at all details about your inter, it may not be the 15 th of the serie....
look at that listing where you'll find details and actually serial numbers of the end or the begining of those details ..
exemple Bitube engine are actually still on 1214 , but not on 1218 ....where you find monotube ydral engine ...
so look at this and may be another number has not appeared when you'll restored it ... at the right you find numbers with " 15" avialable , excepted the ...15... still registred as the 1157 ...
the full hood chassis louvers, where on your /weiner first but not this one .. embossed licence plate ....side grilles ...narrow axel ....sound foam firewall ....
as i know you've got it uncomplete ...
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/11/44/77/74/inter_10.jpg)
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Its all very confusing isn't it! After we last spoke about louvres in the engine cover I started to think and I have a vague recollection that there is a patch welded into one side of the cover, the shape is much like the shape of the vents in the lower body. I cant check or photograph it for you to see as the car is still out on loan. So, I guess that once it did have louvres or a vent plate.
There are various other plates screwed to the body, for example, over the gyrostarter slot where the lever once came through the rear firewall. This is now floor mounted like the later cars. You are right, the car wasn't complete when I got it and it has clearly undergone Inter related modifications along the way.
One thing I am totally sure about though is the number 15 stamped on the body and engine cover, just 15, no other digits, when restoring it I had the body sand blasted down to bare metal so there is no chance of me missing any other numbers.
Regarding your observations about the engine differences fitted to the cars, I did notice that many years ago. That some later ones have the earlier bitube engine and visa versa. Maybe the factory purchased some old stock from Ydrals??
Its good that you are trying to make sense of it all but I think that in some areas such as engine allocation, there is no sense to be made. ;D
I would be interested to know exactly when the folding axle lever device was discontinued because my car did have that. Also when they moved the gyrostarter lever position from rear firewall to the floor although I think that came along later. Do you have any info on that? Cheers, Bob
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Perhaps Bob's car ,being a starter,is not so much h'ors d'oevre but sans louvre
Mike and Bernie Inters?