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General Category => Microcar Events => Topic started by: super-se7en (Malc Dudley) on October 29, 2014, 10:34:16 AM
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I can now confirm that the 2015 national rally will be held at Hatton country world (near Warwick) on the 3rd to the 6th of September.
It will be run on behalf of the Frisky register by myself and a lot of frisky owners. I would love to welcome you all next September as we attempt to beat the record of the most friskies at a rally.
Hatton is just off the A46 which links both the M40 and the M6.
More details to follow.
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The sun has got his Hatton. He's coming out today. Every-bodies happy. Hip hip hip hooray!
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That's excellent news, Malc. I know Hatton Country World, and the area around - an excellent choice, and I'm looking forward to the rally already.
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Sounds Great Malcolm, will see if I can find reasonable airfare to your side of the Pond.
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Going to be a great event. In a very central location so no excuses that it's too far away.........
So, how many Friskys does Mr Meadows need this time ?
Was last at Hatton for the 93 NMCR run by the Berkeley EC. Some video footage on YouTube of that rally that features Richard with a road worthy Microcar ;)
Get the dates in next years diary now and Mark get your flights book. An event not to be missed.
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Is there really ? Hatton doesn't ring a bell with me - have been there ?
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http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_TXVF4LLTF0 (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_TXVF4LLTF0)
Looks like you and your Trojan ??
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Richard with a working microcar? I would pay money to see that! ;D
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Might just be mistaken identity ;D
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Watched the video and what struck me was the lack of trailered cars. The site has improved massively since that video.
I was there with a Berkeley foursome.
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Yep definitely me in the red Trojan near the beginning. Co- pilot was Mike Simmonds who usually would have been driving his yellow Heinkel , can't think why he wasn't on that occasion.
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Watched the video and what struck me was the lack of trailered cars.
I could not possibly comment.
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I hope your group can find time to get this commitment and date to the better media resources in time to be put into there date listings. Car and Crash it, The Autojumbler, Practical Classics and so on. Even Top Gear! This used to be a function of the old NMCR Committee, who selected someone to do it, if the ground organiser had no one. Then there is a chance of none aligned, non club members, seeing there is an event well ahead of time, making the effort to attend. Possibly some media and editorial gabble as well. Such a central English location means possibly more folk are within distance to attend. (That is not a swipe at other versions of the event. In my opinion the ideal is South, Middle, North, Middle, South and around again. One event in three near, one reachable, one might be to far. But 3 out 4 events are hopefully possible. The ideal has not been available for much of the time, of course). Could then be a bumper turn out with a few surprises.
My own attempt mentioned elsewhere has yet to reveal a positive answer, which I might have expected by now. Not looking so good. So all the more reason to welcome THe Hatton Garden job. Oh. no, that was a gem heist. I am getting over exited.
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I hope your group can find time to get this commitment and date to the better media resources in time to be put into there date listings. Car and Crash it, The Autojumbler, Practical Classics and so on. Even Top Gear! This used to be a function of the old NMCR Committee
Go gently, Al. The administrators do indeed do this (though have no control, of course, over the reaction of the magazines ...) and it's perhaps dangerous to encourage the specific organisers to do themselves (and perhaps differently) what the administrators will be doing. Too much chance of conflict or omission.
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Well whom so ever does it, it is timely with an earlier than usual announcement on date and venue, to get the date into the almanac listings, published and out there. That is the thrust of it. For a long time many Microcar Rallies have not been mentioned in these listings. These listings which people use to organise their years eventing from mid November onward. So for all those folks the Microcar events do not exist. Once they have booked a weekend up, they are going to be reluctant to loose good favour elsewhere and change venues to a late coming date. I do not make the rules up.
Clearly the principle benefit is to the ground organiser, so its in his interest to ensure it gets done, therefore netting him best response for his year's work. The only reason that can be an unpopular policy is because it has not been done. Reminds me of being Print Production Manager again. The best ones were always unpopular. In my experience 'You first, John' does not work as well as positive feedback. Still, its not up to me, so I will not be heckling folk anymore about it.
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Oh what a shame ! ! Recently been informed that The National in 2015 will clash with Beaulieu . As usual I am committed to helping Mike Shepherd there . What a B :-[
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I want be able to make it either as it corresponds with the Great Dorset Steam Fair
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That does not sound right. GDSF is traditionally a week before Beaulieu and many of the traders go from one to the other. GDSF is not such a great pull on the National Microcar owner, so it was an OK weekend to be having the National in the better weather, hopefully, longer evenings and school holidays. Indeed the sweet weekend to be having the event. I would suggest Beaulieu is on the wrong date, and they have chosen to go against GDSF for trade in a battle that need not occur.
When is Nettley Marsh and the Boat Jumble. Those were always on the same weekend and folk went to all of these over a weekend. I see that neither has a date, and in all probability have been taken by surprise that the traditional date has not been adhered to. I see Beaulieu continue to say they are the 'biggest outside' autojumble this side of the Atlantic. Mannheim is bigger and has been for a long old time. Though it might be more efficient in its use of space being nigh all on hard-standing thus a higher density of stands. So is there a good reason for this change or is Beaulieu continuing its arrogance, a reason many no longer attend after poor treatment?
Either way that is unhelpful to the Microcar event as it will have to work harder to pull folk up from the west country that habitually go to these events. Bummer.
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Its their loss Al as its going to be a cracking event!
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Indeed, hopefully we can get folks wound up for it and make it one to remember. Baring probs I hope to drive a car there.
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I can believe it Malc , great idea having it run by Unusual micro owners too ! I cannot possibly think of how but I would have loved to have been involved in some way . Very few micro people will be at Beaulieu and I don't suppose that many in Dorset either so no great loss , just a shame .
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Regarding the comment made by al on another topic i would like to offer a new service at the national.
I would like to attract as many auto jumblers as possible but if you only have a couple of things to sell we are going to offer a stall where you can leave your items with a price tag and a contact number and we will sell them on your behalf. that way you can enjoy the national and pay for the day.
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Innovation, new ideas. This is the life blood of events. Bit like a Clockroom at a function. Sounds like a brilliant idea to me.
Minor charge on stuff sold? Such depends on the figures brought into forecast for the event.
I have wondered about an auction at the rally. The MOC have done this. I think its Wynford that is qualified to hold auctions, he certainly used to work in one.
Get the ads out that this event is popping and its the NEC this weekend I think, isn't it. Naff all distance from Hatton so a home game!
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Get the ads out that this event is popping and its the NEC this weekend I think, isn't it. Naff all distance from Hatton so a home game!
All ready done. NMCR stand built up today with a record number of rare microcars and now ready for the 'traditional' press day tomorrow. Posters, flyers and invites for the 2015 NMCR are in place. Malcolm Dudley and the team of volunteers will be kept busy over the next 3 days.
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So much better when there is action to stand behind. Now to work on some of those who are in the headlights of Beaulieu. There are folk down there perfectly capable of driving their cars up to Hatton, perhaps coalescing into a convoy like old times. Unfortunately the Pied Piper of Wimborne is inconvenienced by health currently, none the less he is determined to go to the NEC. Get him to commit to attending and you will get quite a few others. Just in Schmitts there are some 15 runners down in that area! The MOC are failing to tempt them out by a WW1 strategy of a further frontal assaults on Kettering. I do not want to upset Frisky folk but making this a Messerschmitt special might well bring them out, capitalising on the lack of support for their own event.
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judging from the early heads up b4 the show season starts it sounds like it may be an event that some one may see lord messy!!!!!! ;D
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Mixed reviews on the NEC coming back. Chief gripe is why there is a car parking fee on this event making it rather expensive to attend as a punter. Well that is outside the control of the clubs and traders, but many folk I know get concessions from various sources and do not pay full price to get in. There were comments on some tired looking stands. One guy took a photo and had the same guys and cars in the same positions decided by a gap of some 15 years. Lets grow old at the NEC in effect. But then maybe they are one of a very small group who do a stand for what is not a not common car. It was rather amusing though. Depends whether you see doing the same things as comfy slippers, or change, moving on to other fresh fields, as better. We are not all the same.
Word is spreading about the National, so that is good. I am getting stuff all of anywhere on my idea, which is bad. Are entries to Hatton going to be on sale for Christmas? The Christmas Bubble Pudding Club, or some such. Great present for a Micronaut (and a weekend cleared away in full agreement at an early stage) and a nibble of pud on Sat night or something.
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I visited the NEC show last year for the first time and although I enjoyed it, the cost and the inconvenience of the travelling out weighed the enjoyment I derived from it. I think it was £10 to park the car, a bit of a rip off and its not even that near the buildings, a fair walk or a bus ride away. Still, it remains a popular show and Microcars are well represented there.
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NEC Classic Motor Show:
I guess we have to accept the costs for what they are, and make our own decisions on whether to attend.
The parking charge is set by (and paid to) the NEC, rather than the show organisers. Some shows (eg the Motorhome and Caravan show, which I attend) have "free" parking, but that will simply mean that the organisers have paid the NEC. They can afford to do that, because the occupants of each stand - eg the motorhome manufacturers - have paid the organisers fairly huge fees to have a stand. With the Classic Motor Show, the organisers charge the clubs etc absolutely nothing to have a stand.
So, is the entry fee of twenty-odd quid too dear? We'd all love to pay less, of course, but the practical answer has to be "obviously not": all eleven halls were packed, but walkable. The organisers will set the price at a level where the place is buzzing, but not too full to enjoy, or be unsafe. Clearly, they were spot on!
I was lucky enough to get in free, but could spend little time off-stand to see the rest of the show, and soon decided to have a day next year when I'm there to do my own looking around. Even if it costs me!
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All rather a shame to bushwhack Malcolm's subject regarding the very POSITIVE news regarding the 2015 NMCR
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All rather a shame to bushwhack Malcolm's subject regarding the very POSITIVE news regarding the 2015 NMCR
Quite right, Richard - though I was there (at the NEC), along with a gang of others, specifically to promote the 2015 rally!
The attention that visitors gave to the NMCR stand was amazing - many of them, having forked out their twenty-odd quid, were happily spending half an hour looking and talking on just our stand.
As a Bond owner ( or owner of much of one ... :^) ) you'll be interested to note that the traditional statement that "you need to kick start these, don't you" has morphed into "these are the ones where the front wheel turns through 180, so you can go backwards". Two and three years ago, I got loads of the former, NONE of the latter; this year, it was about 8 kickstarts to 30 backwards. What has appeared in the last couple of years that those 30 people have been reading?
(And why don't they understand that that would be turning through 360?)
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I had my frisky on the stand and the most asked question was "does it float". (they walk amongst us!)
We promoted the national until i lost my voice and if we can get just one new microcar nut converted then it was worth wile.
I would like to thank ray and jenny as the amount of work involved in organising this is staggering.
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The do they float question - perhaps they got the wrong week its The Boat Show at the same venue but THIS week isn't it ? :) - anyway - do they ? :)
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Well they float my boat!
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Amphicar has shades of the lines along with the Herald. As we all know from car shows Trojans have steering wheels that move with the door, never leave unattended, as Mr Public will be attempting to prove this physically. Messerschmitts have aeroplane cockpits left over after the war. Etc etc. These people are allowed to vote!
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Mark in the States says he's considering getting a propeller for the back of his FriskySport to keep the punters happy!!!, me, if some else asks why I have a screwdriver sticking out of my Sports Dash, I won't be responsible for my actions !!!!
John
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'ere, John, wot yer got a screwdriver stuck out yer dash for? ;D
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why have you got a screw driver sticking out of your dash then ?
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I think Stuart is referring to the rather clumsy looking indicator switch that was used on some Frisky's, The huge plastic knob is more like a handle. Isnt this item on your "look for" list at autojumbles Richard?
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just winding John up ! course i know the switch , since being on the forum and sourcing these things from jumbles i have supplied 3 of these switches to owners along with two sets of Sport rear lights and two pairs of indicators to fit Sports and various other bits for Friskys . Well someone has to !
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I try to make what parts I can! I made a "screwdriver handle" for John and other owners ;D
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Heres a Frisky dash screwdriver !!
(http://s1234.photobucket.com/user/Friskyman/media/screwdriver.jpg.html?sort=3&o=1)
john
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I think I need help in attaching a photo held in photobucket.
Just use your imagination for the time being!!
John
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2nd try
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nice one john i was just going to help you out - this one not brilliant but cut and pasted , dont ask ;), from a much larger picture , as i have just done that here you are :) a short version