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Title: A Bond drove by today !
Post by: richard on January 15, 2015, 01:08:59 PM
It's not very often you see a micro on the road is it , I was just driving along in Chorley and a Bond G estate drove by going the other way . The Bonder probably didn't notice me waving furiously as he was battling with the gorgeous sunshine in his eyes . Pale blue with Royal blue bonnet ( and roof ? ) I have never seen the car before , mind it's a lovely day and there might be a few around as we are only 16 miles from the old factory at Preston . The last time I saw a micro on the road it was also a G estate , that time cream and pale green , and I didn't know that one either , that was in Shropshire much further South . The Last of the Minicars the G' do seem pretty good all rounders ( spell check - alto undies !! )
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Post by: plas man on January 15, 2015, 03:49:58 PM
funny but when I here Chorley mentioned and a Bond I immediately think red - the model don't matter but VON do  ;D 8)
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Post by: richard on January 15, 2015, 05:25:03 PM
I have absolutely no idea does anyone else ???
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Post by: Big Al on January 15, 2015, 06:13:33 PM
Pity it was not Chorlton.
'Eee, like greased lighting, is that Bond. Must be a Wheelie'.
But it was not.

Time slip? (Oh no, another classsic kids prog).
Title: Re: A Bond drove by !
Post by: Grant Kearney on January 15, 2015, 06:14:46 PM
Sounds a bit like this one that was for sale recently :
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C522403# (http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C522403#)

Been a long time since VON was in Chorley Plas man.  Both owner and Bond are still around I believe.
Another one from that area and era was Ian Jennison.
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Post by: richard on January 15, 2015, 06:30:37 PM
I had absolutely no idea what your comment meant !! Red VON Chorley absolute rubbish ! I was thinking red fondue ? Red Chorley cakes ? How on earth are we meant to know VON was ever a Bond ?  :)
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Post by: richard on January 15, 2015, 06:33:16 PM
No no no . The Bond I saw today was Royal Blue over a very pale blue - predominately the car was really bluey white . The driver at a glance looked a little like Clive Steggel
Title: Re: A Bond drove by !
Post by: Grant Kearney on January 15, 2015, 07:06:09 PM
I had absolutely no idea what your comment meant !! Red VON Chorley absolute rubbish ! I was thinking red fondue ? Red Chorley cakes ? How on earth are we meant to know VON was ever a Bond ?  :)
You need to read that great publication 'Know your Bond'  ;D
VON and it's owner were very well known in Bonding circles years ago.  VON has changed hands several times since then though but remains unchanged.
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Post by: DaveMiller on January 15, 2015, 07:12:59 PM
Dave McNiece, when he had it, always called it "Von"* (and then it went, I think, to Jason H).

*Not as interesting, though, as the Reliant which he called "Diana" - because it was registered XRH
Title: Re: A Bond drove by !
Post by: Grant Kearney on January 15, 2015, 07:25:51 PM
Originally restored and owned by Doug Felton from Chorely.  Brush painted in red enamel which was still wearing when I last seen it a few years ago.  Bob Cotton owned it before Dave McNeice.
Title: Re: A Bond drove by !
Post by: richard on January 16, 2015, 09:44:29 AM
Ah there you both have me . I have perused ( spell check perished ) my copy of Know your Bond and can find no reference to red, Chorley or VON . Admittedly all those letters are included but necessarily in the correct order !  :) are there other versions ? No colours or registrations are within .
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Post by: DaveMiller on January 16, 2015, 09:56:18 AM
I think we were both had, there, Richard. Doubting the truth of it, I went straight to my copy, too - no, Bonds are not named, registered or numbered there!
Title: Re: A Bond drove by !
Post by: richard on January 16, 2015, 10:05:40 AM
Ah  :)
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Post by: Rusty Chrome (Malcolm Parker) on January 16, 2015, 12:39:31 PM
I expect its this one - pic from Classic Car Weekly Feb 16 2000
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Post by: Barry on January 16, 2015, 02:09:42 PM
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=VON+631&rls=com.microsoft:en-GB:%7Breferrer:source%3F%7D&rlz=1I7GGIC_en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=8Rm5VMapHMfxaN_EgrgG&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAw&biw=1920&bih=982#imgdii=_&imgrc=D1ideeDOi3b4mM%253A%3B8Bt7g0xH9aQzeM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fnice-reg.co.uk%252Fnumber-plates%252Fcar-registration-numbers%252FVON631.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fnice-reg.co.uk%252Fnumber-plates%252FVON631.html%3B640%3B480

https://www.flickr.com/photos/16797800@N07/8641559337/

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Post by: richard on January 16, 2015, 03:02:47 PM
How do you do that then Barry ?
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Post by: Barry on January 16, 2015, 05:32:42 PM
Richard

I talked about a microcar register of photos a long while ago.
No one was really interested and some were very worried about identity theft and all sorts of skulduggery.
I was hoping to dig a few photos up out of the closet (contributors archives), ones that had not been seen before.

Some said you just have to look them up on Google if you need to find a picture..................

I just collect photos of microcars and file them with the registration number where possible.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xiu9h6x7qbtfdqh/AAAZW1TFPepeQu-RyeT4qnYaa?dl=0





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Post by: Big Al on January 16, 2015, 06:27:40 PM
 If the data files of cars is to be private in the RUMcar files then publishing pictures of the cars rather breaches that ideal. That is an observation as the pictures, once published are open to anyone, and if placed so, belong to Facebook etc. who can sell the image and information for money if they so wish.

Having pictures of cars out of control is a worry. Especially if the ID info is included. You can gain a lot of info from that.
 
Not only that cars get cloned. One of my Schmitts has now gained a clone, to the extent a request has been made for the bodyshell only this week! I am not sure if that is a threat, or a inducement to trade. This is dangerous now values have risen and fakes are in the marketplace.

Another innocent activity that is effected by the modern worlds rush towards I am not sure what.
Title: Re: A Bond drove by !
Post by: Grant Kearney on January 16, 2015, 06:36:10 PM
I think we were both had, there, Richard. Doubting the truth of it, I went straight to my copy, too - no, Bonds are not named, registered or numbered there!
Sorry, guilty as charged.  VON was one of many very well known Bonds that seemed to have disappeared off the 'scene' in recent years.  Use to appear regularly at BOC rallies and in Bond Info.
Was most recently owned by a Forum member a few years ago but seems to have gone to ground now.
Title: Re: A Bond drove by !
Post by: Big Al on January 16, 2015, 06:44:20 PM
The VONdee on holiday? Maybe not.
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Post by: Grant Kearney on January 16, 2015, 08:13:23 PM
Here is the said Bond, taken a couple of years ago with a couple of well known 'Bonders'.  Any one recognise them  ;)
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Post by: Nimrod Cabin on January 16, 2015, 09:02:21 PM
Ah yes, our Grenville & Joyce

See VON in the seventies, originally brought to the Bond fraternity by Paul Grogan in about 1971 when he saw it in a Birmingham college car park in Acocks Green, he found the owner, £25 changed hands and club member Simon Temple (not Templar Richard) took her on and was used regularly. Note to Malcolm, Simon's other half Sue bought another D shortly after, reg. no. SUK 470

Plas man, is that your CDC to the left??
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Post by: Grant Kearney on January 16, 2015, 09:28:44 PM
Plas man, is that your CDC to the left??
CDC90C, another Bond that has gone to ground in recent years.  A rather quick G twin Tourer.
Title: Re: A Bond drove by !
Post by: plas man on January 17, 2015, 04:09:55 PM
Originally restored and owned by Doug Felton from Chorely.  Brush painted in red enamel which was still wearing when I last seen it a few years ago.  Bob Cotton owned it before Dave McNeice.

that's the one good old Doug , retired to St Annes , mind you VON looks beter on (nuff sed !)  :o

Alan
Title: Re: A Bond drove by !
Post by: plas man on January 17, 2015, 04:16:10 PM
Here is the said Bond, taken a couple of years ago with a couple of well known 'Bonders'.  Any one recognise them  ;)

the orser bar was one on Doug's , I told him to remove the chain - ether he did or not - next thing I heard he seized the gear box , it illegal by the way - because you have 2 points of articulation - unless you are a member of showman's guild and restricted to 10 mph !
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Post by: plas man on January 17, 2015, 04:25:03 PM
Plas man, is that your CDC to the left??
CDC90C, another Bond that has gone to ground in recent years.  A rather quick G twin Tourer.
my old green G Twin - best thing was getting rid - do it still flex and doors pop open ? Dropped the con rod descending Stainmoor into Bowes (A66) nasty mess , bought new from Blue Bell garage Middlesbrough 1965 (not by me) all Teesside club went to see it , Took the concors at Shenstone (Reliant Club) with CDC 90C and that caused a lot of wowh arrs !
Title: Re: A Bond drove by !
Post by: plas man on January 17, 2015, 07:54:13 PM
sees its a Bond thread ....
sorry about photo quality but digital snaps from photo album .


1. CDC 90C at Shenstone with afore mentioned trophy's
2. 90C with bit of shine in the way of spoiler (under No plate - all the go at the time) this could have been reason  for crank/snapped con rod near Bowes Moor hotel (A66) was down hill in the upper 60's !

3. needs no introduction . Chatteris 78/9 ? Edit .. could be Southport Lancshire Microcar Club - one & only rally ?

4. The man from Chorley driving .
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Post by: Rusty Chrome (Malcolm Parker) on January 17, 2015, 08:13:39 PM
Great photos. Got to admit the idea of putting a front spoiler onto a Minicar is not one that I'd have thought of - I guess it helped counter the lift from the badge bar.
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Post by: Grant Kearney on January 17, 2015, 08:36:22 PM
Brilliant pictures Alan. CDC looks very smart indeed and little wonder it took the concours at the Rolly rally.  Same colour as my G Tourer, EPV330D.
Seem to think CDC suffered from a fatigued front wheel on a down hill stretch when owned by Bob Meadows and did some serious damage to the underside.  Was painted red and white then.
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Post by: richard on January 17, 2015, 08:57:33 PM
This is one thing I love about the Bond Club and indeed some other micros . Many , if not most , of the cars that are still around have "history " there are photographs  articles and indeed past owners still around . Many of the cars now at rallies have been owned by some of the other current members - lovely . Unfortunately neither of mine have a known history - they will just have to get out there and make some ! NTC 553 MK A LHD Metallic Green and AHF 763C MK G Estate White any history please ?  Funny Grant that's the only G Tourer that I have noticed that was not C reg , not aware of first production date , were there many B's and D's in the club ?
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Post by: Nimrod Cabin on January 17, 2015, 09:38:07 PM
Brilliant pictures Alan. CDC looks very smart indeed and little wonder it took the concours at the Rolly rally.  Same colour as my G Tourer, EPV330D.
Seem to think CDC suffered from a fatigued front wheel on a down hill stretch when owned by Bob Meadows and did some serious damage to the underside.  Was painted red and white then.

Continuing on from Richard's comment, I remember EPV at Chatteris in about 1975, the first time I recall it was a Dulux job in orange and then the following year in green. An Ipswich Bond as was the then owners location, ie Ian Hall. Pleased to know it is still with us.

Similarly, a G Twin Estate at Chatteris had a fatigued front wheel rim which bent the floor up as the detached wheel went under, I have attached a picture of that very Bond, remember it Alan??
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Post by: Grant Kearney on January 17, 2015, 09:45:25 PM
I believe most G Tourers were built in 1965 and registered during that year on a 'C' suffix.  Milton's being the exception (the first Tourer) as it was registered at the end of 1964, for the Motorcycle show ????
Bob Cotton's two tone twin Tourer is on an 'E' suffix and Andy Price's green twin Tourer is on a 'G' suffix.  Must have been in a show room for several years.  Mine was built in September 1965 but not registered until half way through 66.
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Post by: richard on January 17, 2015, 09:50:16 PM
Stan tells me , despite being C reg , that mine is the last known G  estate in the club with a twin engine (  Q-5-43191RTE ) and is currently the second latest built Minicar in the club , the latest being the last one off the line .
of course i have messed about with it by putting a rear end of a Tourer on it . The Tourer rear end , you might remember , came from Truro in metallic blue but had originally been white with an unknown registration number , any ideas of a Tourer like that in that area at all ?
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Post by: Grant Kearney on January 17, 2015, 09:56:36 PM

Continuing on from Richard's comment, I remember EPV at Chatteris in about 1975, the first time I recall it was a Dulux job in orange and then the following year in green. An Ipswich Bond as was the then owners location, ie Ian Hall. Pleased to know it is still with us.


Now that is very interesting  :).  Yes, it came from Ian Hall when he was giving up the spares service.  Suspected that it was on the Bond scene in the 70s as it clearly had been fully resprayed in the original (triumph ?) green, fitted with a new hood, reflective number plates and had an Info sticker in the screen when I bought it.
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Post by: Nimrod Cabin on January 17, 2015, 10:06:30 PM
I believe most G Tourers were built in 1965 and registered during that year on a 'C' suffix.  Milton's being the exception (the first Tourer) as it was registered at the end of 1964, for the Motorcycle show ????
Bob Cotton's two tone twin Tourer is on an 'E' suffix and Andy Price's green twin Tourer is on a 'G' suffix.  Must have been in a show room for several years.  Mine was built in September 1965 but not registered until half way through 66.

During the seventies a Bond friend was very keen on gathering all the data he could on the Bonds that were around. I have grouped together a few notable Tourers here from his records, I am sure most of us know that 'P' is 1964 followed by the month (eg 10 + October) therefore Q is 1965 etc. See attached






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Post by: Nimrod Cabin on January 17, 2015, 10:17:23 PM
Stan tells me , despite being C reg , that mine was the last G , estate ? , with a twin engine and is currently the second latest built Minicar in the club , the latest being the last one off the line .
Richard
I have the last Twin Estate as a maroon one R/04/43244RTE and the last Single Estate as a blue one R/05/43245RE. This Bond is not far from here in Horsham, West Sussex, it is registered FUF 732D, a Brighton number so will have been supplied by Oakley Motor Units.
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Post by: richard on January 17, 2015, 10:31:48 PM
hi nick please see my amended earlier reply , i dont think it contradicts , or does it ? I see that there were no known white , or blue , Tourers at that time
wow they were really building very few by the end - about 1 a week !!!
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Post by: Grant Kearney on January 17, 2015, 10:45:13 PM
I have a nice original one owner wedgewood blue twin estate, DTP266C, supplied new by John Fisher in Portsmouth that was built at the end of 1965.  Can't remember the chassis number but it used to be the second oldest known twin estate.  The last being 'Basildon Bond' (wedgewood blue also but on a D plate) which has also dropped of the scene in the last few years.
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Post by: richard on January 17, 2015, 10:48:43 PM
 did you mean second youngest or oldest ? mine was originally wedgewood blue too
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Post by: Nimrod Cabin on January 17, 2015, 10:52:01 PM
I have a nice original one owner wedgewood blue twin estate, DTP266C, supplied new by John Fisher in Portsmouth that was built at the end of 1965.  Can't remember the chassis number but it used to be the second oldest known twin estate.  The last being 'Basildon Bond' (wedgewood blue also but on a D plate) which has also dropped of the scene in the last few years.

DTP 266C has chassis ref. Q/06/43195RTE - 4 cars newer than Richard's
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Post by: Grant Kearney on January 17, 2015, 10:56:30 PM

During the seventies a Bond friend was very keen on gathering all the data he could on the Bonds that were around. I have grouped together a few notable Tourers here from his records, I am sure most of us know that 'P' is 1964 followed by the month (eg 10 + October) therefore Q is 1965 etc. See attached

Oops, so EPV was actually built in October 64, presumably just in advance of the model launch in the November at the motorcycle show.  The supplying dealer must have been very disappointed...........
What do the not so obvious columns in the chart refer to ?.  Hood colour ?
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Post by: Nimrod Cabin on January 17, 2015, 10:57:11 PM
hi nick please see my amended earlier reply , i dont think it contradicts , or does it ? I see that there were known white , or blue , Tourers known at that time
wow they were really building very few by the end - about 1 a week !!!
No contradiction Richard, Stan said 'in the club' so it must be so, however MDT 90D is still around, a light blue Twin Estate and 20 cars newer than yours.
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Post by: richard on January 17, 2015, 11:01:28 PM
stans letter 9/06/09 said that mine "was currently the youngest known twin estate in the club " either stans info was incorrect or he didnt have DTP details on file or as I see Stan was doing his usual trick  ;) once it's not in the club he appears to scrub it off  :) very confusing if he actually really knew it was still around
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Post by: Grant Kearney on January 17, 2015, 11:04:31 PM
I have a nice original one owner wedgewood blue twin estate, DTP266C, supplied new by John Fisher in Portsmouth that was built at the end of 1965.  Can't remember the chassis number but it used to be the second oldest known twin estate.  The last being 'Basildon Bond' (wedgewood blue also but on a D plate) which has also dropped of the scene in the last few years.

DTP 266C has chassis ref. Q/06/43195RTE - 4 cars newer than Richard's

Now that is impressive data.  You know more than I do and it's parked in my garage !!.
Sorry Richard, yes, I meant youngest.  The youngest twin being MDT90D, Basildon Bond, which has sadly dropped out the club and changed hands a few times in recent years.
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Post by: richard on January 17, 2015, 11:09:45 PM
it is impressive - did you know mine before i just posted it and how ? Actually found some info -  the first time the club knew of it it was owned in 1996 by phil riley of stoke -o-t and david greaves of nottingham by 1999 then dropped out . Do you know either of these ?
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Post by: Grant Kearney on January 17, 2015, 11:17:16 PM
stans letter 9/06/09 said that mine "was currently the youngest known twin estate in the club " either stans info was incorrect or he didnt have DTP details on file or as I see Stan was doing his usual trick  ;) once it's not in the club he appears to scrub it off  :) very confusing if he actually really knew it was still around
That will be correct.  I bought DTP in July 2009 just before I drove down to Jean's open day and then on to the BOC rally on the Isle of Man in my ratty twin estate.
Thought I was buying a 4T engine (wanted to carry spare barrels and pistons, just in case.......) and then the seller offered me a complete car to save him removing the engine, bizarre.
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Post by: Nimrod Cabin on January 17, 2015, 11:24:08 PM

During the seventies a Bond friend was very keen on gathering all the data he could on the Bonds that were around. I have grouped together a few notable Tourers here from his records, I am sure most of us know that 'P' is 1964 followed by the month (eg 10 + October) therefore Q is 1965 etc. See attached

Oops, so EPV was actually built in October 64, presumably just in advance of the model launch in the November at the motorcycle show.  The supplying dealer must have been very disappointed...........
What do the not so obvious columns in the chart refer to ?.  Hood colour ?

Yes, the second colour is the hood, club membership number, eg, status, country etc.

Just looked at the factory records for EPV, 'C Green' it says, it was road tested on 17th October 1964 and I looked to see if the factory may have held on to it but there is no indication, so maybe there was a disappointed dealer. Remember though the Tourer was an economy model and one intention of the manufacturer was to get potential customers into the showroom when they would try and flog them something a bit more up market, still doesn't explain in excess of 14 months hanging around though.
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Post by: richard on January 17, 2015, 11:25:37 PM
did you pay more or less for taking the whole car though  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: plas man on January 18, 2015, 04:07:09 PM
Brilliant pictures Alan. CDC looks very smart indeed and little wonder it took the concours at the Rolly rally.  Same colour as my G Tourer, EPV330D.
Seem to think CDC suffered from a fatigued front wheel on a down hill stretch when owned by Bob Meadows and did some serious damage to the underside.  Was painted red and white then.

Continuing on from Richard's comment, I remember EPV at Chatteris in about 1975, the first time I recall it was a Dulux job in orange and then the following year in green. An Ipswich Bond as was the then owners location, ie Ian Hall. Pleased to know it is still with us.

Similarly, a G Twin Estate at Chatteris had a fatigued front wheel rim which bent the floor up as the detached wheel went under, I have attached a picture of that very Bond, remember it Alan??
don't recognise the car above , talking of G tourers mine was D reg will post picky , also any photos of LDC 831 (Mk F)  would be most welcome  . You'll know it if you've a photo  ;D


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Post by: Grant Kearney on January 19, 2015, 09:02:50 PM
don't recognise the car above , talking of G tourers mine was D reg will post picky , also any photos of LDC 831 (Mk F)  would be most welcome  . You'll know it if you've a photo  ;D
Another D reg G Tourer, sounds interesting.  Only picture I have ever seen of LDC831 was on the cover of Bond Info a few years ago.  Slightly modified I seem to remember  ;)
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Post by: richard on January 19, 2015, 09:30:11 PM
Where are those pics plas man  :)
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Post by: plas man on January 20, 2015, 03:46:40 PM
Where are those pics plas man  :)
soz' got held up with hospital visits and more visiting , looking through photo albums came across the family one and - you know the rest ...
will post the photo of the tourer soon , it did Chatteris a few times with the trailer on .
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Post by: Grant Kearney on January 20, 2015, 07:43:00 PM
Another picture to identify whilst Plas man looks for his G Tourer pics.  Richard originally spotted the one Bond, well here are four.  Any ideas where and when ???
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Post by: richard on January 20, 2015, 07:47:00 PM
great shot but far too long ago for me . would that be Juliette Johnson on the right ? And possibly Nick Mander back right with an F i dont know ? BP  and Transit both looking UK
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Post by: Barry on January 20, 2015, 08:21:45 PM
Another picture to identify whilst Plas man looks for his G Tourer pics.  Richard originally spotted the one Bond, well here are four.  Any ideas where and when ???

Pulled up the colour a bit
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Post by: DaveMiller on January 20, 2015, 08:25:27 PM
The BP logo suggests after 1989, before 2000?
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Post by: richard on January 20, 2015, 09:16:28 PM
i see we have a new forum member tonight Geoff Bond E - welcome  :) any ideas on this one ?
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Post by: Nimrod Cabin on January 20, 2015, 11:00:41 PM
The BP logo suggests after 1989, before 2000?

Remember this one, yes Dave it is 1986 Morecambe, the first one since 1967, here goes with more anorak stuff.

762 MAR - yellow G Saloon, Trevor Chitty
669 KKJ - green F Tourer, Stan the man
269 HBF - maroon G Estate, Grenville Taylor
VJG 452 - red F Saloon, Nick Mander (well done Richard!)


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Post by: DaveMiller on January 21, 2015, 04:32:29 AM
The BP logo suggests after 1989, before 2000?

Remember this one, yes Dave it is 1986 Morecambe

Ah, in that case the letters "BP" were upright, rather than italic, as I had thought! (Bit difficult to see, in that pic  :)  )
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Post by: richard on January 21, 2015, 12:49:39 PM
OOPS ! Very sorry Juliette ! And indeed Grenville ooer  :-[
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Post by: richard on January 21, 2015, 08:38:26 PM
looking again at that picture Nimrod - it might be Grenvilles car but are you sure it's Grenville ?
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Post by: Nimrod Cabin on January 21, 2015, 09:25:38 PM
Grenville's Bond yes, that would be Joyce in the picture.
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Post by: Grant Kearney on January 23, 2015, 10:03:08 PM

Remember this one, yes Dave it is 1986 Morecambe, the first one since 1967, here goes with more anorak stuff.

762 MAR - yellow G Saloon, Trevor Chitty
669 KKJ - green F Tourer, Stan the man
269 HBF - maroon G Estate, Grenville Taylor
VJG 452 - red F Saloon, Nick Mander (well done Richard!)
100% correct, obviously too easy for those with superior Bond knowledge.  Sorry about the picture quality and thanks to Barry
for the improvements.
Here is another on the G Tourer theme.  A rather well known example that has 'done the rounds' over the years.  Big Al, note the registration  ;)
But what about the Mark B ??
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Post by: DaveMiller on January 23, 2015, 10:15:25 PM
A Mk B with a door??

(Which perhaps also explains what appears to be some added "chassis" strengthening.)
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Post by: Nimrod Cabin on January 23, 2015, 10:49:48 PM

Remember this one, yes Dave it is 1986 Morecambe, the first one since 1967, here goes with more anorak stuff.

762 MAR - yellow G Saloon, Trevor Chitty
669 KKJ - green F Tourer, Stan the man
269 HBF - maroon G Estate, Grenville Taylor
VJG 452 - red F Saloon, Nick Mander (well done Richard!)
100% correct, obviously too easy for those with superior Bond knowledge.  Sorry about the picture quality and thanks to Barry
for the improvements.
Here is another on the G Tourer theme.  A rather well known example that has 'done the rounds' over the years.  Big Al, note the registration  ;)
But what about the Mark B ??

Ah yes, EKN 113C (P/10/43106RC) this was purchased in 1974 by my friend Robin (the one who collected all the Bond data that I quote here) from Michal Porter for 20 quid. Has since been seen with Tony Smith and Ken Bell. This car was supplied new by Bernard Dimond of Dartford and is seen new at Morecambe on the cover of a Bond magazine of the period as well as the club videos. EKN115C & EKN116C were also G Tourers.

The Mark B TPU 910 (C/11/2385) was restored decades ago by Tony Searle who still has this car and loads of other stuff.

Keep them coming - NC



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Post by: Big Al on January 23, 2015, 11:29:21 PM
After the red C Tourer I had for 3 days, before I was made an offer I could not refuse by a Brum chum, the Mk G Tourer was something I probably should have kept, or at least driven for a season.

OK a couple of mysteries for you.

Anything on 963 BBO, a Mk G

A rare MkF (?) van L726594RV. I hope it is restored and well.
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Post by: richard on January 24, 2015, 08:24:53 AM
Know your Bond Mr. Miller  ;D " B with a door " just been to my photo's and i know later B's could have a door - but this is a strange one !! This B TPU seemed to have a door - but later on didn't !!
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Post by: Rob Dobie on January 24, 2015, 11:32:40 AM
Just a thought. Could the green "Mk B" really be an early Mk C, with door, front wings removed and fitted with a bodged front end from a B? The bonnet seems a bad fit plus the lumpy bits holding it up.
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Post by: DaveMiller on January 24, 2015, 12:22:29 PM
Just a thought. Could the green "Mk B" really be an early Mk C, with door, front wings removed and fitted with a bodged front end from a B?
The chassis number NC quotes places it as a B.  Also, I can't imagine anyone going through the faff of conversion fron C to fake B - you'd lose the nice turning ability, and have to revert to the B-type suspension to get engine and drive within the shorter bonnet, wouldn't you?
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Post by: Garybond on January 24, 2015, 01:28:48 PM
According to records first Bond B with door was C/11/2396 so was this restored back to original as it never started life with a door?
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Post by: richard on January 24, 2015, 01:43:53 PM
So this is the same month and only 8 before the official first door was it an option earlier ? Talk about faff , welding up the door must have been a job and a half ! Of course homemade doors were not unheard of , John Hodgsons A has one
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Post by: Garybond on January 24, 2015, 02:24:16 PM
Goes to show some people like original but how long did it have the this modification Would you put a Bond A back to perspex screen and wire and bobbin steering? Because that is how it started
I see the minitruck from Byards leap has a door
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Post by: plas man on January 24, 2015, 03:25:08 PM
Where are those pics plas man  :)
with none restricted 24 hour  hospital bedside attendance at present things are not going to plan , but we have a 'shift' system working between family members , will try soon with a picture .
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Post by: richard on January 24, 2015, 04:04:42 PM
All best wishes to you and yours
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Post by: plas man on January 25, 2015, 03:10:14 PM
another of CDC 90C .
also the Blue Bell garage dash badge fitted up until the end of the Mk F's ...
(still looking for Mk G single RC  EWM 403D )
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Post by: richard on January 25, 2015, 04:40:02 PM
love the dash plate but I really had to smile at the sunstrip ! Put that on the cover of Bond Info and someone would have a fit !  ;D
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Post by: Nimrod Cabin on January 25, 2015, 05:36:12 PM
After the red C Tourer I had for 3 days, before I was made an offer I could not refuse by a Brum chum, the Mk G Tourer was something I probably should have kept, or at least driven for a season.

OK a couple of mysteries for you.

Anything on 963 BBO, a Mk G

A rare MkF (?) van L726594RV. I hope it is restored and well.

Neither are logged in our data

963 BBO is a May 1962 Cardiff registration, Bond Mark G no doubt supplied by Alex Thom

L/7/26594RV a Mark F van with reverse, British Racing Green, road tested on 13th July 1960

That is about as much as I know really, do you have a reg. no. for the F??
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Post by: Nimrod Cabin on January 25, 2015, 05:48:15 PM
Goes to show some people like original but how long did it have the this modification Would you put a Bond A back to perspex screen and wire and bobbin steering? Because that is how it started
I see the minitruck from Byards leap has a door

Which is your Minitruck then Garybond??

Mick Stacey had one with a drivers door (YMM 990)

I had one too (MYU 755) I sold it to Tony Searle who did a magnificent job on it
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Post by: Garybond on January 25, 2015, 06:14:24 PM
My mintruck was CMM938 is now TFF188 I have a picture sent to me by your registrar  Alistair of it in the early 90's with a black Bond B PHU731
This B still shows up on the Dvla data base so I presume it still exists
It is also on this forum under sharps minitruck

YMM is interesting as that's Middlesex same as the one I own are you sure that registration's right as it shows a white convertible1952
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Post by: Nimrod Cabin on January 25, 2015, 06:22:27 PM
My mintruck was CMM938 is now TFF188 I have a picture sent to me by your registrar  Alistair of it in the early 90's with a black Bond B PHU731
This B still shows up on the Dvla data base so I presume it still exists
It is also on this forum under sharps minitruck

Thanks for that, did you get both pictures as attached?? I have another image somewhere, this was the seventies.
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Post by: Garybond on January 25, 2015, 06:28:36 PM
Yes I had 2 pictures one front view and one rear but not the lower one image 12 amazing what turns up I bought it in 1996
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Post by: Nimrod Cabin on January 25, 2015, 06:59:32 PM
My mintruck was CMM938 is now TFF188 I have a picture sent to me by your registrar  Alistair of it in the early 90's with a black Bond B PHU731
This B still shows up on the Dvla data base so I presume it still exists
It is also on this forum under sharps minitruck

YMM is interesting as that's Middlesex same as the one I own are you sure that registration's right as it shows a white convertible1952

Just checked Glass's guide, interestingly AMM and DMM are pre war issues but BMM 21 - 220 & 800 - 999 and CMM 800 - 999 were not issued until 1952 with the remainder to Government Departments.  YMM 990 was issued in August 1953, seems to stack up.

YMM 990 is chassis D/7/3182T
CMM 938 is chassis D/9/3257T

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Post by: Big Al on January 25, 2015, 07:15:38 PM
Neither are logged in our data

963 BBO is a May 1962 Cardiff registration, Bond Mark G no doubt supplied by Alex Thom

L/7/26594RV a Mark F van with reverse, British Racing Green, road tested on 13th July 1960

That is about as much as I know really, do you have a reg. no. for the F??
963 BBO, This has disappeared to not be returned to the road.

The MK F was ex Groombridge and I think a rare machine? It was on a single seat. It was very restorable. I might be able to deduce the number when the photos get sorted out. Either that or Rob or other 'visitor' to that yard might have noted it down. I want that one to exist still.
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Post by: Nimrod Cabin on January 25, 2015, 07:35:32 PM
Neither are logged in our data

963 BBO is a May 1962 Cardiff registration, Bond Mark G no doubt supplied by Alex Thom

L/7/26594RV a Mark F van with reverse, British Racing Green, road tested on 13th July 1960

That is about as much as I know really, do you have a reg. no. for the F??
963 BBO, This has disappeared to not be returned to the road.

Single seat F Rangers are certainly very rare, you mention Groombridge, is it this one seen on the left with Bob Dobie's JAP 369 ahead.

The F is the right colour but we have recorded it as TNJ 503 (L/7/26585RV) it is a reverse as well and the factory records show road testing on 13th July 1960




The MK F was ex Groombridge and I think a rare machine? It was on a single seat. It was very restorable. I might be able to deduce the number when the photos get sorted out. Either that or Rob or other 'visitor' to that yard might have noted it down. I want that one to exist still.
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Post by: richard on January 25, 2015, 08:17:43 PM
no note directly  so I imagine it's your driveway , get it tidied up Nimrod or Mrs.Cabin will lose her patience  ;)
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Post by: plas man on January 25, 2015, 08:35:14 PM
scrap ally is about 900£ a ton   :o
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Post by: richard on January 25, 2015, 08:53:06 PM
scrap ally , dont start me ! a few years ago i had a heavy gauge ( and i mean heavy 1/4" thick plates much of it ) old motorcycle delivery trailer no one wanted and it was in the way so stupidly I went and borrowed a van off my brother and took it for scrap . I got £21 ! What a fool I was and should have known a lot better , ever since I have imagined that on the classic rally scene and it could have looked lovely . By the way i checked it all out and I did get the proper rate  :-[
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Post by: Nimrod Cabin on January 25, 2015, 10:48:17 PM
Yes I had 2 pictures one front view and one rear but not the lower one image 12 amazing what turns up I bought it in 1996
garybond
You possibly have these 2 then.
That is my A55 camper in the road, recovered many Bonds with this, nice reliable vehicle, did like the column change.
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Post by: Garybond on January 25, 2015, 11:17:53 PM
Yes I have the lower one but not the one with the B on its own I presume this still exists

My Father had an F ranger new from Mead and Tomkinson's Hereford I know the registration just have to find the photo
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Post by: Nimrod Cabin on January 25, 2015, 11:29:42 PM
Yes I have the lower one but not the one with the B on its own I presume this still exists

My Father had an F ranger new from Mead and Tomkinson's Hereford I know the registration just have to find the photo

These pictures of your Minitruck are from about 1974 I reckon, both Bonds had just been picked up from Bristol by Malcolm Thomas, the grass verge you see them on is in Horley, Surrey.

Please mention the number of the F Ranger, you never know, it may be on our records.
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Post by: richard on January 26, 2015, 12:53:06 PM
Thank goodness they were saved ! All those years ago by you old fellas  ;D and cameras to prove it . Bring on the photos please . It's never been easier to take a photograph BUT where will all today's images be in 40 years time ? There's is a lot to be said for a printed photograph on paper !
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Post by: plas man on January 27, 2015, 03:27:47 PM
HEY not so much as the old - you'll be there one day  ;D - us oldies are as young as we feel   8) , as for the camera - not like to-days must haves Canons and Nikon's (retirement prezie's to yourself) just a plain 127 Brownie and most black & white on Gratispool from Glasgow with paper negatives - but over the years the negs have faded and been binned , but some photos survived !
must go through my movies next.

Nuff' sed' here's the D reg G tourer  ... the colour photo was  from a slide , hence the distortion .
bough it a couple of days before Mr Ported arrived at ours - he was horrified , but it stayed till the Plas arrived , then sold on .
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Post by: Rusty Chrome (Malcolm Parker) on January 27, 2015, 05:39:44 PM
I've tried to fix some of the distortion for you. Worth mentioning that modern scanners and software can sometimes recover an image from very faded negs - particularly black and white - that you might not be able to make out with the naked eye. Always worth a try if the image is important.
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Post by: richard on January 27, 2015, 08:29:56 PM
Interesting that for some time the car existed on yellow non reflective front number plate , why I wonder ? I don't think you would last long nowadays before being pulled over
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Post by: plas man on January 28, 2015, 11:40:12 AM
regards the no plate , it was a self adhesive on that you stuck on the bonnet in those day's ( boy racer stuff nowadays ) ,  that said in those days some one had a habit of varnishing thing's this could be the yellowish tint , it would have been varnished to stop the self adhesive letters getting nicked  :o
had the car for about 10 year averageing 14000 a year .
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Post by: plas man on February 17, 2015, 04:07:20 PM
tidying up in the garage to-day looking for spares I came across the original from new No plate off  CDC 90C & the torg' cover , the cover was useful as the car flexed a lot with the hood down ,  when the torg' was 'doted' up it  seemed to tighten the chassis flex and stop the doors from popping open ! 
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Post by: richard on February 17, 2015, 04:34:18 PM
I am sure the current owner would love the plate  :) actually I wouldn't mind a peep myself as my tourer is C as well . I presume the plate standard silver on black stamped , seperate plastic letters a bit older style by then ? With a border ? Etc.
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Post by: plas man on March 08, 2015, 03:02:03 PM
Richard , how far off is the tourer from been on the road ?

Alan
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Post by: richard on March 08, 2015, 03:48:01 PM
Several years at present rate of progress  ;)
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Post by: plas man on March 08, 2015, 04:06:23 PM
The torque cover is safe , in a bag top shelf in garage , its yours once you up and running - its usable but a very good pattern . (Steve maybe ?)

cant get to it yet .
 have the No plate from 90C .

Alan
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Post by: richard on March 08, 2015, 05:27:12 PM
I would love to have the tonneau as a pattern at least thanks very much . As and when you can get to it do please let me know - thanks
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Post by: Peel replica, Steve Fisk on March 08, 2015, 08:59:07 PM
I could copy it in black mohair if you want with a plastic window ?
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Post by: richard on March 08, 2015, 09:17:15 PM
a tonneau doesnt have a window - and Bonds don't need Mohair Steve
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Post by: Peel replica, Steve Fisk on March 08, 2015, 09:59:04 PM
Sorry I was thinking of a roof . Tonneau cover would be easy
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Post by: richard on March 08, 2015, 10:09:45 PM
Well the word used was a torg wasn't it but I am thinking of a tonneau . I also have a Bond B/C/D tourer one I would love copying Steve
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Post by: Peel replica, Steve Fisk on March 08, 2015, 10:13:57 PM
Cool I will pm you my address , parcel it up and get it done for you