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Title: Clarkson in trouble AGAIN!
Post by: Bob Purton on March 11, 2015, 03:42:11 PM
I'm hoping they sack him this time. Punching people in the face whilst we the license payers pay him millions??  Although thousands will disagree I would like to see him go and get a proper motoring program instead.
Title: Re: Clarkson in trouble AGAIN!
Post by: marcus on March 11, 2015, 04:29:48 PM
It is all "allegedly" therefore I reckon it is yet another publicity stunt.
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Post by: Big Al on March 11, 2015, 04:30:08 PM
Presented by Chris Evans, or something worse. Ooo eck! Root suggests Brian Blessed. 'DRIVE!!!'
Title: Re: Clarkson in trouble AGAIN!
Post by: Bob Purton on March 11, 2015, 05:04:10 PM
If presented by Brian Blessed even I would watch it! ;D
Title: Re: Clarkson in trouble AGAIN!
Post by: Bob Purton on March 11, 2015, 05:36:56 PM
It is all "allegedly" therefore I reckon it is yet another publicity stunt.

Oooo your so cynical Marcus. :)
BTW band has a gig at Maldon yacht club in April, not as illustrious as your last gig but work all the same!
Title: Re: Clarkson in trouble AGAIN!
Post by: marcus on March 11, 2015, 05:41:22 PM
Maldon Yacht Club, hope it's all plain sailing, you old salt... sea what I did there? !
Title: Re: Clarkson in trouble AGAIN!
Post by: richard on March 11, 2015, 05:51:40 PM
Good news Clarkson suspended - bad news it's not from a scaffold . Unfortunately he will survive as over 100,000 have signed the online petition , where can I suggest the opposite  :)
Title: Re: Clarkson in trouble AGAIN!
Post by: Bob Purton on March 11, 2015, 06:20:02 PM
well you can start a poll on this forum. We havnt had one for a long time.
Title: Re: Clarkson in trouble AGAIN!
Post by: richard on March 11, 2015, 06:58:41 PM
even in my wildest optimism i would not expect to get over 100,000 hits  ;D
Title: Re: Clarkson in trouble AGAIN!
Post by: NickPoll on March 11, 2015, 07:36:54 PM
Here you are Bob. Spred the word.
http://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/sack-jeremy-clarkson         I've signed it because I think Clarkson is a tw-t. The sooner they get another presenter the better. I much prefer the classic car show with Quentin Wilson and that chick.
Title: Re: Clarkson in trouble AGAIN!
Post by: richard on March 11, 2015, 07:43:06 PM
thanks nick and i have signed it and posted it on my wifes facebook  ;D
Title: Re: Clarkson in trouble AGAIN!
Post by: Barry on March 11, 2015, 07:53:06 PM
All six in my family have signed it - posted on Facebook too.
Title: Re: Clarkson in trouble AGAIN!
Post by: Bob Purton on March 11, 2015, 10:23:06 PM
Yep, made my mark too.
Title: Re: Clarkson in trouble AGAIN!
Post by: skootashaun on March 11, 2015, 11:01:16 PM
I like Clarkson.  8)
Title: Re: Clarkson in trouble AGAIN!
Post by: Big Al on March 12, 2015, 07:30:49 AM
Prescott punched a guy during an election. This was deemed more than fair, indeed he seemed to gain by it. At that point it was abundantly clear to me that fair play has nothing to do with it. We are a pugnacious breed and secretly like these sorts of incidents, but cannot admit it.
I have not much time for Clarkson either. He stands for the success of ignorance. It is totally in keeping that he will get caught leaching, having a bundle and saying things your not allowed to say. He has turned it into a very lucrative enterprise supported by those are, or would like to be, like he is. The fact that this makes the BBC more money than just about any other programme buts them in a very weak position. Sky or an independent will be waiting to snap him up.
The Beeb meantime will attempt to manage a change in the programme but hope to maintain its ratings by employing a more amenable twit, should Clarkson go. That has 95% failure written on it before it even starts. Top Gear is not really about cars anymore. If you want Squinting Wilson the format has to change. There will be an element of education. The Clarkson fans do not want that. They want the three musketeers smashing up cars in a new and thrilling adventure.
Mind you we could have Clarkson fight Brian Blessed for the position. Cannot see that lasting very long.
Title: Re: Clarkson in trouble AGAIN!
Post by: marcus on March 12, 2015, 08:05:40 AM
Last night I was driving back to Smokey on the A2. Just after accelrating away from the Kidbrook junction, where 3 lanes go down to two all was fine until I suddenly noticed a hot hatch back with super-load exhaust, alloy wheels, ultra-low profile tyres, blacked out windows and blue LED lights all over it. The driver was going flat out trying to overtake me and the car to my right, even though was clearly no way he could do it as his lane was disappearing fast, and the car in the outside lane was moving towards me at a steady pace. He had to slam on the brakes, ha!

I was still surprised at the amount of noise coming from his car, it sounded like Brands Hatch on superbike day. After a while boy-racer had his chance and sped off at about 90 mph (50 mph limit) and was zig-zagging across the road to pass other vehicles. After he passed me seven other hot hatches, all equally kitted up and equally noisy all followed, clearly in a racing convoy, and clearly all using low gear as much as possible to maximise the noise. Noise which was drowning out my CD, with my windows shut, and which was making my car shake and vibrate. As I came down the hill towards the Greenwich exit they were already up by the O2 about 1 1/2 miles ahead, and their din and vibration was still noticeable.

Boy racers existed long before JC and TG, but I think this sort of laddish programme glorifies, popularises ad justifies laddish behaviour, disrespect for the law and other road users, and anti-social and highly dangerous behaviour. Each of these cars probably had at least £20,000 spent on all the tweaks and mods. What's fine (arguably) on a TV show is absolutely wrong on UK's crowded roads. I think JC is sometimes funny and interesting, but for a huge number of lads and laddettes who do not have the intelligence or maturity to appreciate the difference between a TV "entertainment" show and real life roads, JC and TG are a dreadful influence and promoter of dangerous driving.

There was no sign of any police of course, they are too busy threatening 4 year old girls for cycling slowly on the pavement.
Title: Re: Clarkson in trouble AGAIN!
Post by: richard on March 12, 2015, 08:54:26 AM
Cars aside Clarkson is a bully , a chauvinist , bigot and much more besides - everything I do not like but a lot of others have time for . I do not think anyone would challenge my assumptions , indeed I guess Clarkson himself would be proud of such an epitaph
Title: Re: Clarkson in trouble AGAIN!
Post by: marcus on March 12, 2015, 09:19:04 AM
He has developed his persona in response to encouragement from fools. He now acts up to his own stereo-type.
He is reasonably bright and informed, some of his war programmes were really quite good, shame that on TG he has come to believe his own "character" and has become obsessed with his own importance. He does not seem to realise that huge chunks of TG's audience think it is fine to copy their "heroes" activities on public roads. Top Gear and jeremy Clarkson into Room 101 FORTHWITH !
Title: Re: Clarkson in trouble AGAIN!
Post by: Bob Purton on March 12, 2015, 09:40:37 AM
Totally agree with all said with the exception of scootashaun and Ali point about John Prescott who in my view only displayed a knee-jerk reaction to being physically attacked himself.
I fear that if Clarkson gets the push from the BBC he will resurface on ITV  even cockier.
Title: Re: Clarkson in trouble AGAIN!
Post by: Big Al on March 12, 2015, 09:59:55 AM
And if he had been a Rugby player, would have been red carded. This was an election for people to run a country, not a rabble, which is what we got! Anyway the illustration serves its purpose. If the one is wrong, so is the other.

Clarkson is not going to go away, unless he chooses to take over TG Australia, or something, thus side-lining the BBC and keeping his franchise very intact.
Title: Re: Clarkson in trouble AGAIN!
Post by: Bob Purton on March 12, 2015, 10:20:41 AM
But a little more forgiveable in my opinion.
Title: Re: Clarkson in trouble AGAIN!
Post by: Barry on March 12, 2015, 10:48:09 AM
Cars aside Clarkson is a bully , a chauvinist , bigot and much more besides - everything I do not like but a lot of others have time for . I do not think anyone would challenge my assumptions , indeed I guess Clarkson himself would be proud of such an epitaph

Well said.
Title: Re: Clarkson in trouble AGAIN!
Post by: Big Al on March 13, 2015, 09:30:27 AM
Cars aside Clarkson is a bully , a chauvinist , bigot and much more besides - everything I do not like but a lot of others have time for . I do not think anyone would challenge my assumptions , indeed I guess Clarkson himself would be proud of such an epitaph

Well said.

If it wasn't, I would smash yer face in!         Ah, eer, yeees. Jolly well said old chap. ;D
There is a bit of a list of poor roll models, sadly.
Title: Re: Clarkson in trouble AGAIN!
Post by: richard on March 13, 2015, 05:10:01 PM
as i said a thuggish bully , it appears he and others had been in the bar and arrived two hours late for their tea and the hotel had shut up shop  :D

https://uk.tv.yahoo.com/clarkson-told-colleague-lose-job-220953643.html?vp=1
https://uk.tv.yahoo.com/jeremy-clarkson-says-he-expects-to-be-sacked--very-soon--–-daily-tv-round-up-101523982.html
Title: Re: Clarkson in trouble AGAIN!
Post by: marcus on March 13, 2015, 05:41:24 PM
Clarksnot's last word on suspension:

"That's the bouncy bit which holds the wheels on".
Title: Re: Clarkson in trouble AGAIN!
Post by: Bob Purton on March 30, 2015, 02:23:10 PM
Here you are Bob. Spred the word.
http://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/sack-jeremy-clarkson         I've signed it because I think Clarkson is a tw-t. The sooner they get another presenter the better. I much prefer the classic car show with Quentin Wilson and that chick.

Nick may have spoken too soon. I didnt see it but am told that Wilson was being very rude about bubblecars in a recent episode about the mini. Its obvious from the shows contents that he is only interested in big fast cars and what they are worth. One would think that a maker of a supposed classic car show would get everyone on board by include all shapes, sizes and tastes but no, they are not happy unless they are alienating one quarter or another of the classic car movement. We may just have to get him fired as well!  I prefer to watch Wheeler dealers, I know the buying and selling profit side of things is a joke but at least Mr Brewer samples all sorts and isnt unnecessarily rude about other enthusiasts tastes.
Title: Re: Clarkson in trouble AGAIN!
Post by: Big Al on March 31, 2015, 12:20:43 AM
Wiil the Beeb be brave? It is really time to find a relatively unknown personality to take over TG and head in a different direction. To replace presenters on this format is a poisoned chalice better known presenters might steer clear of. JC is quite capable of reinventing the programme elsewhere, anyway. Some of the names being banded about are quite worrying. Ant and Dec? Another option is the guest presenter of each show. None of which really bothers me, since I will not be watching it.
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Post by: AndyL on March 31, 2015, 10:25:23 AM
Wind the clock back a couple of decades and you had one or maybe two television shows about cars. These days with all the channels you have several to choose from, and there is enough variety for everyone.

Top Gear is a show for the sort of person that might buy 'Revs' magazine, whereas something like Wheelerdealers is more aimed at a reader of 'Practical Classics'.

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Post by: Rusty Chrome (Malcolm Parker) on March 31, 2015, 06:02:02 PM
I sort of agree. Like Clarkson, Revs went out of fashion several years ago, only difference is they stopped publishing Revs, while the BBC somehow managed to overlook the decline in Top Gear's ratings.
Title: Re: Clarkson in trouble AGAIN!
Post by: Bob Purton on April 02, 2015, 09:12:27 PM
Just watched the Classic car show and although most of it was in the usual big supercar mode there was a nice little spot where Jennifer Saunders drives a classic Fiat 500 around the Portobello and she was very complimentary.
Title: Re: Clarkson in trouble AGAIN!
Post by: Garybond on April 03, 2015, 02:36:24 PM
Agree with you Bob bring on Jennifer Saunders the best bit of the show
Why do we need to watch 2 people driving around America?
Title: Re: Clarkson in trouble AGAIN!
Post by: Bob Purton on April 03, 2015, 03:06:12 PM
Well quite.
I thought the bit about petitioning Fiat to reintroduce the old Fiat 500 in electric guise was somewhat unrealistic. The other 500's that Jennifer was cruising past in the film were not plants, I'm a regular at the Portobello and those cars do belong to the locals. I cruise past them all the time looking for a parking space!
I even agreed with her when she said that she wanted a small electric town car but didnt want to look like Postman Pat by driving a G-wiz! As much as I like my wiz it is an ungainly looking car!
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Post by: AndyL on April 03, 2015, 07:01:53 PM
My favourite of the small electric cars is the Renault Twizy. Quite a nicely designed machine, and they motor along very well.

A driver at work has one, and i think he recoups the cost of the battery rental by renting the door skins for advertisements.
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Post by: Big Al on April 04, 2015, 09:09:46 AM
I love a recent conversation. Couple in Islington, big struggle to get out of debt, paying for 3 kids. Lady becomes qualified teacher and 'needs' a car for school. Choice is a £4k modern Mini in the correct colour, increasing their debt, not good. Also seems a rather inappropriate vehicle for city use. This is what we are up against. A refusal to buy the best answer for the job in hand (or maybe not buying anything!) but a willingness to take the risk for something fashionable at a probably higher cost than expected.

Ultimately it well need the Government of the nation, or capital, to create conditions to force some compliance with genuine green and efficient answers to city traffic, rather than taking a bounty off it to squander. There exists every reason to create better electric cars, but no market place strong enough to warrant the investment of private money. We are being badly let down and fibs from the top make it no better. Who do you vote for on that. Eer, sound of wind blowing, no one. Not even the Greens have a policy that can work.

Still no doubt the new Top Gear, or what ever it is, will deal with such interesting problems by burning old cars in Battersea power station to see which has the highest calorific value, or some such twaddle. Life on the media's equivalent of low fat Shake.

Tesla.
Title: Re: Clarkson in trouble AGAIN!
Post by: Rusty Chrome (Malcolm Parker) on April 04, 2015, 12:33:08 PM
I enjoyed this piece from Alexei Sayle proposing a Dr Who like regeneration as the solution of what to do about Top Gear.

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/apr/03/alexei-sayle-its-time-for-a-marxist-top-gear-jeremy-clarkson (http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/apr/03/alexei-sayle-its-time-for-a-marxist-top-gear-jeremy-clarkson)
Title: Re: Clarkson in trouble AGAIN!
Post by: Bob Purton on April 04, 2015, 01:10:27 PM
Yes, enjoyed reading that piece.
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Post by: AndrewG on April 04, 2015, 05:03:40 PM
Top Gear presented by Alexei Sayle might even get me to watch it again...
Title: Re: Clarkson in trouble AGAIN!
Post by: Big Al on April 04, 2015, 07:40:02 PM
Marvellous, save Maxism is utter tosh, a provable statement to those with an open mind. So someone who makes a good living out of utter tosh, proving its utter tosh in doing so, is not going to get me watching it for genuine information. I would rather have John Lydon, as he is an honest anarchist made good.