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General Category => Unusual Microcar Discussion => Topic started by: Jamesi85 on December 22, 2015, 06:36:39 PM

Title: Any help with dateing certificate for uk registering my William city
Post by: Jamesi85 on December 22, 2015, 06:36:39 PM
Hi all I'm Looking to buy a William city but it comes with no paper work
So to register for uk road I need  some headed certificate from manufacturer or forum register? To aid the registration .does any one have any info on this please thsnks james
Title: Re: Any help with dateing certificate for uk registering my William city
Post by: Peel replica, Steve Fisk on December 22, 2015, 09:05:43 PM
Was it ever made for uk roads when it was first built ?
Title: Re: Any help with dateing certificate for uk registering my William city
Post by: Jamesi85 on December 22, 2015, 09:38:15 PM
No mate but has no paper work,I have spoke to dvla an they said I would need a certificate for manufacturers evidence an build date from an owners club or people who made?
Title: Re: Any help with dateing certificate for uk registering my William city
Post by: Rusty Chrome (Malcolm Parker) on December 22, 2015, 11:22:36 PM
Have you joined the Lawil Lambretta Willam Cars Facebook group? A few were imported in the early 1970s, but most have been bought over since. Has it still got a manufacturers plate on it somewhere? It's even possible the Rumcars register already has your car on their records.

http://www.rumcars.org/a-about.html (http://www.rumcars.org/a-about.html)

http://www.crayfordconvertibleclub.com/conversions/william-microcar.html (http://www.crayfordconvertibleclub.com/conversions/william-microcar.html)

http://www.microcarfan.com/index.php/marques/74-willam (http://www.microcarfan.com/index.php/marques/74-willam)
Title: Re: Any help with dateing certificate for uk registering my William city
Post by: Jamesi85 on December 23, 2015, 08:42:39 AM
Yes the plates corroded so numbers can't be seen but just looked on the facebook age an the one I'm looking to buy is on there but by the other previous owner so been about about in short time. So gona message them an get some info cheers
Title: Re: Any help with dateing certificate for uk registering my William city
Post by: Big Al on December 23, 2015, 09:35:02 AM
The Mini Comtesse chassis plate caries the French homologation date on it. That is a default date, as it has become an approved French vehicle. European law then means it can be used in Europe, as I understand it (subject to dates of legislation). So many Mini Comtesse are getting dated 1975, despite that they might not actually be a production of that year. Mine (For Sale) is an example of this practice, possibly. Its the first Comtesse to gain British registration, I think.

More will be revealed on the Comtesse topic soon.

Did Willam do the same thing? In which case your answer will be on another car, if you cannot read your plate.

The Crayford I had is no longer here. However it would not really help, as it is not a Lawill/Willam and recorded as its own entity, despite the larger part of the machine being imported. There were enough significant differences that it was classed differently and complied with British rules of the time, not depending on European rulings to create a default registration situation.  It would be interesting to know if the insurers treated a Crayford differently to a similar specification Willam.
Title: Re: Any help with dateing certificate for uk registering my William city
Post by: Jamesi85 on December 24, 2015, 09:12:21 AM
Thanks gig Al to be honest all seems a lot of hassle I may just leave a find one that's already done cheers