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Unusual Microcar Discussion / Re: registering mochet with no papers
« Last Post by MicroStu on November 08, 2019, 12:58:48 PM »
Afternoon, I’m in exactly the same boat with my Mochet although I will have a NOVA certificate, who do I need to contact at RUM Cars that can provide a dating letter?
 Thanks Stu
Dear David

Thank you for the update.

Chris Thomas
The Archive of Microcars
Unusual Microcar Discussion / Re: registering mochet with no papers
« Last Post by Chris Thomas on November 06, 2019, 08:40:23 PM »
Dear Darin

The DVLA have tightened up their procedures and this makes registering a vehicle of any kind without any documents very difficult, They need documentary proof that the vehicle is genuine and not a collection of spare parts assembled. This means that without an approved document linking the Chassis number to a registration year and or a registration number then they can refuse.
Rumcar can help you to date the vehicle, but that will only determine the number plate year once all the other requirements have been complied with.

If the vehicle was never registered in the UK, then you will probably need to prove when the vehicle arrived in the UK and proof of Vat or duty paid when it was imported. Again without any papers this may be very difficult to prove.

It is always unwise to purchase any car with no documentation, if you want to drive it on the highway.

So to answer your question as it stands you stand little chance of getting the vehicle registered in the UK without any documentation.

Chris Thomas
The Archive of Microcars
Unusual Microcar Discussion / registering mochet with no papers
« Last Post by Darin smith on November 06, 2019, 04:45:05 PM »
hi im new on here i have 12 microcars but just bought mochet in england with no papers is there any chance to get it registered with dvla
Hi everyone,

It has been a long time since I have been on this site and I thought I should provide a little update on the Swift.

The first is that it was known as the Southern Swift and not just Swift.  I found this out after buying a limited production book "History of Southern Aircraft (Gatwick) Limited" by Peter Amos & Brian Buss.

The book included two paragraphs and three photographs on the Southern Swift.  Two of the photos I have not seen before.  They would not scan well and it would breach copyright if I did so.

The following is in my own words, but based on the opinion of the book authors:-

The SAG Southern Swift was slightly larger in design and better suited to road traffic than not only the then current rival bubble cars offered by Heinkel and Messerschmitt in Germany, but also many from the UK including the Italian Issetta manufactured under licence by BMW in Brighton.  Despite the Southern Swift’s advantages to the opposition it did not attract any interest by established manufacturers to put it into production.

By 1962 SAG decided to stop marketing the Southern Swift and also cease trading.

Footnote:  I remember my father coming home from work and telling my mother he had been sacked.  She was giving me a bath in front of the fire in the kitchen.
Microcar News / Re: Larmar FMO 106 (again!)
« Last Post by Bob Purton on November 03, 2019, 09:06:12 AM »
A fantastic achievement Paul. I would like to see retoration photos.  Cheers, Bob
Microcar News / Re: Larmar FMO 106 (again!)
« Last Post by Moulder on October 31, 2019, 09:50:19 AM »
Hi Chris

Thanks for the reply, I am about 20 miles away so easy enough to put the Larmar in the back of a van to drive there.

I have another single seater bike engined car that I wanted to enter but thought it too new, the restoration of the Larmar was almost complete so I made a speculative entry.

There are 200(ish) places available balloted down from around 500, and we were lucky enough to make it through including being one of only 12 cars featured in the programme.

A really nice event with the focus on variety, the unusual, and interesting history. I will enter something else next year, but even if I don’t get in will head along for the day as there is so much to see.

Microcar News / Re: The Archive of Microcars
« Last Post by Chris Thomas on October 30, 2019, 06:24:31 PM »
Hi All

Since July things have moved on apace. We now have a fully insulated, air tight and water tight building, with electrics, lighting, and air conditioning so we can control the storage environment. We have kitted out the inside with banks of filing cabinets and shelving and we are just about to start the move of documents from their existing location into the new facility.

Once in all the documents will be counted and filed away ready for cataloguing which will start in 2020. Mainly due to needing funds to do the work. If you have any bright ideas for fund raising, we are always willing to listen.

I hope this has been of assistance.

Chris Thomas
The Archive of Microcars

Microcar News / Re: Larmar FMO 106 (again!)
« Last Post by Chris Thomas on October 30, 2019, 06:15:03 PM »
Congratulations Paul

I must say the Larmar appears to be running very well and I commend you on your choice of music.

What encouraged you to enter the hill climb? do you live near by?

Good to see another restoration complete

Chris Thomas
The Archive of Microcars
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Microcar News / Re: Larmar FMO 106 (again!)
« Last Post by Moulder on October 30, 2019, 03:24:12 PM »
By way of introduction I am the current owner of FMO 106, purchased from eBay in March 2018.

My understanding is that the car had previously been restored by a member on here, but with the wider anticipated road usage a full nut and bolt rebuild has been undertaken completing in July this year. It is testament to the previous work how easy it was to disassemble, even so the full rebuild took approximately 300 hours with highlights being; replacing the original tyres which had taken on the consistency of Bakelite, gearbox rebuild including black treacle like grease, brake rebuild with new cables/linings, and replacement of the 5 chains use for drive/steering. The colour was also changed from green to blue.

As with many restorations it is as much about the journey as the destination, and once complete how it would not just relegated to the garage for occasional sunny evenings. At this point the original Autocar review (attached) came to the rescue, with the article stating "The independent rear suspension, for instance, has much in common with the system used on a very different type of car, the racing Maseratis" the answer was obvious.... Motorsport.

An initial perusal of racing options showed opportunities to be limited. Whilst qualifying for the Bikesports championship with its BSA engine there were concerns that, regardless of the Maserati derived suspension, with only 250cc and 7.5hp we would struggle to regularly run in the top three against other bike engined cars, particularly with their more modern 1100cc motorcycle engines. A single make series was considered which would guarantee a top three place but with one of the other cars believed to be in the USA this proved prohibitively expensive.

Moving away from circuit racing became the only option, with rallying and drifting also discounted, Hill Climb became the target. With the ability of the "surprisingly comfortable and lively" Larmar never in doubt but still wanting to ease ourselves into the Hill Climb arena an entry was hastily penned to the Shere Hill Climb ( Whilst not timed but potentially more challenging due to its greater length than Prescott or Shelsley Walsh this would provide an excellent shake down for a car that had only previously shaken down on the way to the pub. With the entry ballot survived, for which we are eternally grateful, race day was soon upon us.

Though an untimed event, to the trained eye the Larmar did suffer in both initial acceleration and top speed when compared to the Mercedes AMG GTR, Ford GT40, and Jaguar E Type also taking part. However, faultlessly completing four full runs has shown that there is a future for the Larmar in Hill Climb, with each run including the 5 mile loop back to the start giving a total of almost 25 trouble free miles on the day. Whilst motorsport pedigree can only add to the value and rarity of FMO 106 it has been decided to continue to campaign it where possible as opposed to mothballing or presenting for static display.

Race day footage can be found at (Hill Climb) (return to the start)

Happy to post up some restoration pictures if they would be of interest.



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