Another Mystery car

[Bob Purton]

Can you name this one?

[inacoma]

I recognise this car

is it an exibit at Story ?

Will have to get my D.V.D. out to check

john

[inacoma]

1954 Cuno Bistram

Little is known about this attractive little single-seater named after its designer/builder. It seems that the Bistram family was influential and well known in Hamburg.The steel tube ladder frame features independent coil spring suspension, and the 150cc ILO motor drives only one wheel by chain.The original registration papers indicate that it was actually licensed for use on the road.A two-page colour photo of this car was featured in a German Oldtimer magazine, but no history is given, other than that perhaps fifty were built, a number that can

[Bob Purton]

Well done John, you are getting far too clever!

[inacoma]

Bob will probably know this one,

I name that car in ? notes

But don't jump to conclusions ;-

[Bob Purton]

Hi John. Is it a Mivalino?

[inacoma]

Hi Bob

Well done

Too easy when we had been looking at the Bruce weiner collection, but couldn't resist it because it is different in a same as sort of way :-

1954 Mivalino
In November 1953 the Italian Mi-Val motorcycle company introduced their own version of the Messerschmitt KR-175 initially called the Messerschmitt-Mival.

It was built from parts imported from Germany, but Mi-Val installed their own 171.7cc engine and called it the Mivalino.

It seems production didn't start until the end of 1954 and probably ended in 1955 or 1956.

Very few of these were built and fewer survive, many Microcar enthusiasts are not even aware that the Mivalino was built at all.

This car came from a family in Italy that owns
the Oldest Ford Dealership in Rome.
They were the original owners and the car has only 200 KM on it.


Manufacturer: Metalmeccanica Italiana Valtrompio s.p.a. Brescia Italy

Model: Mivalino Motor: Motocarrozzetta Body: Steel
Years Built: 1954-1956 No. Cylinders: 1 Chassis: Tube
No. Produced: ~100 Displacement: 171.7cc Suspension Front: Rubber
No. Surviving: ~8 Horsepower: 9 Suspension Rear: Rubber
Length: 2 820 mm Gearbox: 3 fwd Steering: Direct
Width: 1 220 mm Starter: Kick or Pedal Brakes: Cable
Weight: 175 kg Electrics: 6 v 3 Wheels: 4.00 x 8"
Interior: 2 seats tandem Ignition: Coil Top Speed: 90 km/h

[Stuart Cyphus]

 Here we go then peeps with yet another mystery car to get you all scraching your heads. I'm none too sure myself what this is, but I have a theory on what it's related to......

[Peelpower]

Hi Stuart. Is it a Veloto built in France in the early 80th???

[marcus]

Inacoma is right that Mivalino is not that well known. The Design Museum near Tower Bridge in London has what is usually described as a Messershmitt KR200, but I am pretty sure that it is really a Mivalino. It is the mark 2, with wider track, wheel arches, and bigger windscreen. The dome is white GRP with a small rear window. In the Brooklands Books Messershmitt Gold Portfolio it states that Mivalino introduced the opaque GRP roof due to the hot Italian sun. I guess people's heads must have turned into pork scratchings under perspex!

[inacoma]

Hi

If the one in London is a Mivalino then it's a rare beastie. might be worth checking out.

I think the car Stuart has posted looks like a cross between a Mini Comtesse and a Super Comtesse.

I love it, it looks like Old Mother Hubbards shoe.

John

[Stuart Cyphus]

Looks like we have a winner!  As I said, I'm not too sure what this car is all about, but it does seem to have some Comtesse influance in it. The wheels are exacly the same as those fitted to the Mini-Comtesse, whereas the body seems to have details of a Super Comtesse in it, such as the general shape of the door. Plus it's in this plain white colour as were most Comtesse models. It looks too good to be homemade, could it be an Acoma model we don't yet know of......

[inacoma]

Hi Stuart

I think one of these was sold on french ebay about 18 months ago.

I have been trying to find out what it is but can't find my magazine I think it's in (like the London motor show review, but for the French salon about 1985 ish)

I don't think it's an Acoma

Are you going to the Bubble car museum rallly ?

John

[Bob Purton]

I am, who else is going?

[inacoma]

Hi Bob

See you there then

Which car/cars are you taking?

john