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Villiers dynastart engine
« on: December 12, 2011, 02:25:01 PM »
Does anyone think the eBay item number 230715341330 marked stationary engine may be a 9E dynastart or is it my wishful thinking.

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Re: Villiers dynastart engine
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2011, 03:18:24 PM »
Is the number given correct? I find a Samsung TV under that number...
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Re: Villiers dynastart engine
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2011, 03:52:00 PM »
Sorry the number is 230715341380 and not 330.

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Re: Villiers dynastart engine
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2011, 05:32:14 PM »
That one is an 11E, similar but doesnt have a posative stop gearbox.

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Re: Villiers dynastart engine
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2011, 09:59:39 AM »
Ideal for a machine without positive stop brakes then. No good for a Scootacar but perhaps ideal elsewhere. A positive start dynostart would be handy.

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Re: Villiers dynastart engine
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2011, 03:48:01 PM »
Sorry could you explain to a Newbie what is meant by "positive stop brakes" / "gearbox or positive start / dynostart"???
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Re: Villiers dynastart engine
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2011, 06:32:09 PM »
Sorry, once you get to know Big Al you will learn not to take his posts too seriously. Re posative stop gearbox, it means that the arm that actuates the gear change is pushed forward , the gear changes and then the lever returns to its original position, you can only move through the box one gear after the other by repeating the action. The 11E gearbox is sequenial, the lever selects a different gear dependant on the position it is left in , it doesnt return to its original position, these gearshifts usualy have some kind of gate to show which gear its in. The disadvantage is that its possible to accidently go through more gears than you intended when changing.  Does that make any sense? I have seen 11E engines in scootacars.

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Re: Villiers dynastart engine
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2011, 07:31:37 PM »
Sorry, once you get to know Big Al you will learn not to take his posts too seriously. Re posative stop gearbox, it means that the arm that actuates the gear change is pushed forward , the gear changes and then the lever returns to its original position, you can only move through the box one gear after the other by repeating the action. The 11E gearbox is sequenial, the lever selects a different gear dependant on the position it is left in , it doesnt return to its original position, these gearshifts usualy have some kind of gate to show which gear its in. The disadvantage is that its possible to accidently go through more gears than you intended when changing.  Does that make any sense? I have seen 11E engines in scootacars.

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Re: Villiers dynastart engine
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2011, 07:48:57 PM »
You can swap the gearbox over but the cowlings are different.

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Re: Villiers dynastart engine
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2011, 07:49:50 PM »

 I have seen 11E engines in scootacars.


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Re: Villiers dynastart engine
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2011, 09:45:56 PM »
all mk11s had 11E's!
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Re: Villiers dynastart engine
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2011, 08:44:04 AM »
all mk11s had 11E's!

Mine hasn't. It has a 9E something or other. Was it 9E/RE or 9E/SE or something. Back to the fact this has been in there a long time but then that does not make it right. I must double check the number as I have been communicating with Richard about Villiers matters and now have realised this might also be an interesting engine. It is a reversing car with black box.

As a matter of interest my MkII has the white neutral light. Does that appear with the 11E?

Talking to Andy Carter it seems the nice lozenge indicators are extinct. If Andy cannot find them over years at Newark Autojumble they must be tricky. I have the makings of one unit.

I am confidant I have the rear lights now thanks to that discussion. I would far prefer to attempt to have these things original and correct and with an unrestored car that is perhaps easier. Bit of a bummer if the engine is wrong though.
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Re: Villiers dynastart engine
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2011, 01:54:38 PM »
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11E engines in scootacars

I've seen people use them in Frisky's also, I hear the 11E's lighter anyway, or is that complete fallacy?
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Re: Villiers dynastart engine
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2011, 09:45:54 PM »
do you mind blob . under 18's may be reading this :)
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Re: Villiers dynastart engine
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2011, 09:47:11 PM »
al . which lozenge indicators off which car ?
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