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Jim Janecek

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Re: Huf ignitions
« Reply #30 on: February 20, 2012, 02:13:29 PM »
...All things have a lifespan and cannot get in a HUF over it.

well put!  I'm not begrudging anyone for buying things and then reselling them later at a profit.
I just find it amusing that the very individuals who have control over the supply and demand might wonder why the price of something is so high.


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« Reply #31 on: February 20, 2012, 09:15:46 PM »
Though I'm relatively good at rooting out parts none of my finds have come easy, I reckon I discover 1 item per jumble. Occasionally I'll sell the odd thing to trim my spares or sell to friends at a reduced rate, but I would rather swap spares for equally rare parts, as money is easier to earn than it is to find irriplacable components!
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Re: Huf ignitions
« Reply #32 on: February 20, 2012, 09:36:38 PM »
Though I'm relatively good at rooting out parts none of my finds have come easy, I reckon I discover 1 item per jumble. Occasionally I'll sell the odd thing to trim my spares or sell to friends at a reduced rate, but I would rather swap spares for equally rare parts, as money is easier to earn than it is to find irriplacable components!

Thats what my dad likes to do!

Its definitally better, since if you offer soemone an equally rare part, it makes the other guy WANT to trade his part, because he may not have wanted to sell it.
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Re: Huf ignitions
« Reply #33 on: February 20, 2012, 09:46:49 PM »
Well I'm 75% through restoring a complete wreck of a KR200 where the main body tubes were about the only useable part. Every panel has been replaced thanks to the club re-producing them and several people have helped me out by selling me parts at realistic prices (80's prices if truth be told). Without this help the car would (and should) have been scrapped. And Nick, thank you - very generous!
It's now running sweetly and just needs all the fluffy bits put back on, so thank you everybody who has helped - you have saved the car's life. 400-odd quid for an ignition - having a laugh I think!
If I sell the KR when it's finshed I doubt I'd make a profit as new club spares have cost a lot and there has been hours and hours of hard graft.
Still need a fuel tank - anybody got one that doesn't leak for sale? Happy to purchase or do restoration work in return (engine rebuild/mechanics etc). Based in Scotland-shire.
Sensible prices and like minded people have been very much appreciated.

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« Reply #34 on: February 21, 2012, 08:43:40 AM »
I know its a free market and that dictates the prices but its pretty frustrating for someone trying to restore a car on a budget when he know that some greedy so and so is sitting on all the spares to finance his mortgage! In the past I have given parts away for free to genuine people restoring cars, the favour tends to come back when I need things, this is how the hobby should operate. Cooperation not racketeering.

Unless it is a Nobel steering rack.
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« Reply #35 on: February 21, 2012, 09:05:06 AM »
At a slight tangent. It is now noticeable that specialist restorers are selling off project sports cars that are leaping in price restored. If you follow this up you find that despite their being in the trade and able to get parts they still are unable to create a finished car for the price the restored cars are fetching. So the cars are passing to the 'capable enthusiast' who, while he might pay a little more on his spares budget, does not have the overheads of a business employing people. IN real terms some of these guys are under the radar dealers. No doubt there is a certain amount of feed back labour in reality to the companies selling as they have skills that are in demand. However what this shows is why prices are climbing and you can ignore Gov speak about inflation being 2.thrub% a year. Here is the real rate of inflation for all to see as these are items people want to buy. The drift up in prices is related to the cost of new spares which are going up and are not alloways completely accurate, much is imported now, and original spares naturally become collectors items. Microcars are part of this world now. They are no longer part of the wheelbarrow collectors world of bits and bobs, swaps and making dodgy repairs in the shed at the bottom of the garden.

This whole raised profile, raised value thing has pressurised the club aspect of ownership. Sadly I have taken to rarely allowing things to be borrowed as they tend not to return. Likewise restoring stuff leads to the expectation you will empty your collection of best spares for the benefit of customers. You bang on. Real quality parts are best swapped as the money you get swiftly is unable to buy an equivalent replacement. Partly inflation, partly increased value. It all goes back to the Bankers crisis and the fact they chose with Government connivance to undermine the value of cash money. They are still doing it. Parts are worth more than cash! Parts are not taxed. The City does not trade in parts so no percentage to them. I want parts!
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Re: Huf ignitions
« Reply #36 on: February 21, 2012, 10:11:40 AM »
I know its a free market and that dictates the prices but its pretty frustrating for someone trying to restore a car on a budget when he know that some greedy so and so is sitting on all the spares to finance his mortgage! In the past I have given parts away for free to genuine people restoring cars, the favour tends to come back when I need things, this is how the hobby should operate. Cooperation not racketeering.

Unless it is a Nobel steering rack.

Well funny you should say that, my rack was actually given to me by my good friend Blob of this forum. 

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« Reply #37 on: February 21, 2012, 10:23:08 AM »
Parts swapping is best all round. Its worked well for me in the past. Both parties get what they want, no money changes hands and more cars get restored.

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Re: Huf ignitions
« Reply #38 on: February 21, 2012, 12:26:19 PM »
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my rack was actually given to me by my good friend Blob of this forum.

Actually I think I sold that to you when I was in my £10 per item faze! ;D



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Re: Huf ignitions
« Reply #39 on: February 21, 2012, 12:55:08 PM »
Oh well, as good as gave, it was much appreciated anyway. I'm reamering out the new eccentric bush holes this afternoon. Can do the same on your one if it needs it.

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Re: Huf ignitions
« Reply #40 on: February 21, 2012, 01:39:36 PM »
I know its a free market and that dictates the prices but its pretty frustrating for someone trying to restore a car on a budget when he know that some greedy so and so is sitting on all the spares to finance his mortgage! In the past I have given parts away for free to genuine people restoring cars, the favour tends to come back when I need things, this is how the hobby should operate. Cooperation not racketeering.

Unless it is a Nobel steering rack.

Well funny you should say that, my rack was actually given to me by my good friend Blob of this forum. 

I dont think there really special, because its not really the type of part that goes wrong. They could wear down like yours Bob, but dont tend to "break".

Rear windows on the second hand are probably gonna be worth a load! I'm lucky to have reserved one of Mike Ayriss's ones!

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