bond national rally 24-27th may 2013

[Grant Kearney]

now rustychrome ( time we all changed to real names ) you have me there . surely the two photo's both show the same type of car , are they not both D Tourers ? did you post the wrong pic ?

They do look to be both Mk D Tourers but JTK277 is actually a very late MkC Tourer.  These were fitted with the MkD grill and were built at the time when the Mk D was coming into production.  I came very close to owning JTK some years ago but it turned out to be a 6V 8E engined MkC with hardtop and not a 12v 9E MkD soft top that I wanted.  To further confuse things it has now been upgraded to MkD spec with a 12v later engine and tourer hood and frame. 
Just avoid all Bonds 

[Garybond]

Cannot avoid bonds there great and a jolly sight cheaper than all the overpriced stuff but I fear not for long

[Big Al]

Just to keep the kettle boiling are there not metal and GRP rear wings for C/D?

[Grant Kearney]

Yes, the MkC  had aluminium or fibreglass rear wings. Also there were a small number of MkCs fitted with steel bonnets and MkDs with fibreglass due to aluminium shortages at the time.  A fibreglass bonnet is so heavy compared to a ali one  .

[richard]

some C's even had steel arches - muddier than mud  


a bit odd that the article intended to keep things mud free seems to be muddying the topic 

[Big Al]

Ah. I had one with GRP bonnet and assumed it was a replacement. This is the car that had a huge Bond Club badge painted inside. It was gold I think.

[Barry]

The differences between the Mk C and the Mk D are chiefly mechanical rather than visual, so unless you know the car or unless it's an early Mk C with the different grill, you generally can't tell one from the other in the usual front or rear 3/4 photo. Rear wings are a different style between the Tourer and the Family (fibreglass ones have the "detail line"), but not between Mk D's and later C's. The Family is quite a bit different, but you can't really see it in those two pictures taken from the front. Every Mk D I've seen so far seems to have very slight differences to the next, though I'm not sure if this is down to repairs/restoration or the progressive development that Bond indulged in with all of it's Minicars. The more significant mechanical differences are detailed on the Bond Club website http://www.bondownersclub.co.uk/.
The A's and the B's do look quite different if you look at the back, but the wider/deeper mudguards aren't always that obvious in front 3/4 views. Again, mechanically there were lots of changes. As Richard said, clear as mud!

Here's some more pics from the rally.

Thanks Rusty.  It's becoming much clearer.

[richard]

well he only confused me ! rusty posted a pic saying it clearly showed the difference between a C and a D - they appeared identical to me . what did you see that i didn't barry ? is it me ? confused as i thought i knew the difference , pictorially anyway

[Jim]

Thought I`d add a few pics of Rally sorry can`t add much to discution I just like the Bond in any shape or size. http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa195/Charlesdegall/40_zps3920b72f.jpghttp://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa195/Charlesdegall/39_zps3af931cd.jpg[/img]

[Jim]

Great to make many new friends at Nottingham realy enjoyed the Rally and company good to put a face to those I know on here namely Malcolm and Richard who made me feel realy welcome.

[Garybond]

Jim is that you B wish mine looked like that

[Rusty Chrome (Malcolm Parker)]

well he only confused me ! rusty posted a pic saying it clearly showed the difference between a C and a D - they appeared identical to me . what did you see that i didn't barry ? is it me ? confused as i thought i knew the difference , pictorially anyway

Sorry Richard, I didn't mean to confuse, only being ironic - I knew from a previous encounter that JTK 277 was a Mk C and WAC 651 was a Mk D and I just wanted to illustrate that it can be impossible to tell which is which from a photo.

Here's a picture of a Mk A from a previous Bath rally and a Mk B from last years Bond National. You can just see that the B (MYL 461) is extended behind the rear wheel arch and that the mudguards are slightly deeper in section.

Great pictures Jim!

[Rob Dobie]

When was the gold Mk D, SGA 760 photographed?  It seems the DVLA has that number registered on a Mercedes-Benz!  

[Rusty Chrome (Malcolm Parker)]

It was a picture I took at the 1984 National Microcar Rally

[richard]

Rusty you are a very naughty boy !  :  loving these pics but out of them all I rather like that neglected red B. At the end - strange that I don't remember it nor do I remember a clear second to take a photo it was AWFUL last year