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Carved Model Heinkel
« on: September 13, 2014, 09:16:29 PM »
Squeak and I are designing and making a Museum Donation Box in the form of a mechanical diorama, with cars, tractors, boats, tram, train and plane and various other moving parts. I will paint the Heinkel tomorrow, too tired to start now!





Photobucket has changed its site and now nothing works, will try summat else:

http://s581.photobucket.com/user/Captain_Bubble/media/Sleepy%20Hill%20a%20Mechanical%20Diorama/P1070383_zpsf02c7499.jpg.html?sort=2&o=28
« Last Edit: September 13, 2014, 09:19:34 PM by marcus »
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Re: Carved Model Heinkel
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2014, 10:16:07 PM »
they won't let you hot link to images.

you have to download it and then attach it to your message like this:

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Re: Carved Model Heinkel
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2014, 08:32:51 AM »
Cheers Jim! It used to be easier, and I tried lots of different ways (as suggested on the Attaching photos thread, but I can't get my pc to do downloads!
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Re: Carved Model Heinkel
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2014, 12:53:47 PM »
Have been trying again: All New Photobucket now has two sets of commands, one set is in blue (i.e. Links) and includes "Download". Helpfully NOT, these are not active and serve no purpose at all. The other set of Links includes HTML, IMG, and others but no explanation as to which to use so I tried to embed each one in turn and NONE of them work. Well done Photobucket, you really know how to waste people's time!

So all I can do is post 4 links from the title bar

Painted, front view (match stick for scale):

http://s581.photobucket.com/user/Captain_Bubble/media/Sleepy%20Hill%20a%20Mechanical%20Diorama/P1070390_zps9356992c.jpg.html?sort=2&o=29

Side/rear view:

http://s581.photobucket.com/user/Captain_Bubble/media/Sleepy%20Hill%20a%20Mechanical%20Diorama/P1070390_zps9356992c.jpg.html?sort=2&o=29

In situ on model Clyde Puffer, pencil for scale:

http://s581.photobucket.com/user/Captain_Bubble/media/Sleepy%20Hill%20a%20Mechanical%20Diorama/P1070393_zpsb53a424d.jpg.html?sort=2&o=31


rear view (blob of white BluTack to hold in place temporarily):

http://s581.photobucket.com/user/Captain_Bubble/media/Sleepy%20Hill%20a%20Mechanical%20Diorama/P1070393_zpsb53a424d.jpg.html?sort=2&o=31
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Re: Carved Model Heinkel
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2014, 10:57:15 AM »
I bid three pence for the little wooden model!

You should talk to Dave Hambleton about Dioramas. He wants to create one of the Trojan works for the Trust's display. I love things like this and could happily return to model making if I become house bound.
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Re: Carved Model Heinkel
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2014, 12:23:36 PM »
3 pence? THREE BLOOMING PENCE?
It took me several hours to complete that model....2 pence is more than enough, do you want it wrapped?
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Re: Carved Model Heinkel
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2014, 09:45:27 AM »
Its coming together Marcus.
Isnt this where Barry usually comes in and says, you don't wanna to do it like that , you wanna do it like this with a CNC machine and computermobob software?

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Re: Carved Model Heinkel
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2014, 10:27:42 AM »
Cheers Bob, photos don't really do them justice as they are so small that I have to get in really close, and then you see all the imperfections which you do not notice from normal eye viewing distance!

As for CAD/Cam etc., the whole point of this Diorama is that everything in it is a bit lop-sided, wonky, tumble-down and oddball, for instance Sleepy Hill Station has props to keep it up and it will have a palm tree growing through its roof! A giraffe will pop its head out of the Coach's roof. programming it all would take far longer than getting on and making them!

Besides....I LIKE making them!
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Re: Carved Model Heinkel
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2014, 11:02:17 AM »
"the whole point of this is that everything in it is a bit lop-sided, wonky, tumble-down and oddball,"

If only I could get away with saying that to my customers! ;D

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Re: Carved Model Heinkel
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2014, 11:46:02 AM »
Yup! That's why this project is so much fun. It was odd though, having to deliberately make things "wrong"!

Most of the vehicles are "cartoonised or wonky" real ones...The loco is a mix of "Gazelle" (at Kent and East Sussex Railway), but with the cab of a Black Hawthorn iron works loco, the coach is a British European Airways AEC Regent 1 1/2 decker, the car is very loosely based on an Austin 7 Chummy, and the glider is based on Sir George Cayley's glider which was the World's first ever Heavier-than-air craft to carry a person aloft.
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Re: Carved Model Heinkel
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2014, 12:02:38 PM »
I've given up on believing who was the first to do this or that in aviation history, its a mine field. I'm still fairly convinced that Gustave Whitehead flew in 1901 before the Wright bros though. There were eye witnesses that came forward some time after the event.

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Re: Carved Model Heinkel
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2014, 01:10:45 PM »
It all depends how you specify it, but it is VERY hard to nail it down, but I believe these are beyond doubt:

First to get human aloft lighter than air craft : Montgolfier Brothers, hot air balloon
f t g h a : heavier than air: Cayley glider
ftgha ; powered: Clement Ader, Eole
ftgha ; powered sustained controlled : Wright Bros

There are all sorts of other balloon firsts for animals, then powered balloon, then powered dirigible balloon (i.e. steerable!).

Then for heavier-than-air there were various glders and then powered planes without 3 axis control.

Plenty of people flew powered planes, and Maxim's would have flown but was deliberately held down by its rails.

The Wrights were not the first to glide or fly powered craft, their "sustained" first flight was less sustained than other flights which did not have 3 axis control!

The Wrights are defined as the first to fly powered, controlled (i.e. 3 axis control) and sustained. However, many claim that the Wrights early flights were downhill, and/or in strong winds (i.e not capable of taking off or flying sustained without slope or wind assistance!)

The Wright's have largely been credited as the "first" because they had mechanisms to control all 3 axes, but many modern craft fly fine without 3 axis mech....fighters (computer flown) hang gliders and micro-lights and various others.

This means that the 3 normal definitions (powered sustained and controlled) are NOT all necessary, therefore arguably Ader and others DID beat the Wiights.

The Wrights win by the right definition, but the right definition is wrong..... :)
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Re: Carved Model Heinkel
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2014, 01:45:25 PM »
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