Ian Cave seems to shuttle between Devon and Germany now he has retired away from Surrey, I think it was. Having had Goli, Hansa, Lloyd and Borg, I have flirted with the Borgward Drivers Club. I am once again a member as I have 4 Borgwards scattered round the world. The van is still here, A saloon and a Coupe to come and a spare coupe. Hmm, those converted DHC look very fine motorcars. That would be a simpletons set. Many and various are the subtle changes and one offs. As to a collection of all Lloyd types, you would need a hanger.