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Re: bubblecar museum messerschmitt kr200 for sale on ebay
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2014, 09:07:50 AM »
Mulling it over I think notification of sales is one of the main reasons I like the Forum. I have little interest in proceeding to buy any of the things advertised these days, but the massed eyes see far more than I do, and I enjoy looking at what junk people dig up and sell, what for, and how many times! Its Micro gossip of a high order.


Moving on from that, what we do lack is an area that has no marque affiliations, that offers us as a factual resource area for where stuff gets done, restorations, casting, tyres etc.

You can argue that here within the threads is a mass of information to aid people who want reference data to help them. However its not in an easy to find form. There is clearly a limit on how far you can cross reference, as someone has to do it. All such great ideas founder, as no one with the requisite skills, has the time they wish to give.

But certainly a page of Microcar contact details for clubs, spares sources, good restorers, and even marque experts who are approachable, would be a worth while.

In the same way there should be a premier events listing page, which should default to be THE place to look for micro friendly events. There are few organizations who actually offer a natural place for these important initiatives. Then a thread, like an invite to a Rally in Phocle Green, or Messymans ability to supply a number of Messerschmitt spares, stands out for all to find easily, until such time the information is out of date.
(For years it seems quite a few organizations have relied on me to collate dates, left over from running AUA as a service to enthusiasts. With my reduction in interest in Microcars and the difficulty in getting info I am not doing this anymore. The evidence suggests folk are not really interested, frankly, and the events need to re-learn to advertise themselves, so as to bring in as many owners as possible. The negativity and rudeness I have had over the last months has nigh on finished my interest in getting involved. I will promote what I think could be fun and attend myself, but the secret Microcar rallies can remain so. Hatton has legs, could pull in many non aligned owners if advertised well, so go for it and I plan to be there).

Without continued flirtation, then, on the thread, Messeymans Schmitty offers sink into the mire of many and varied facts of greater or lesser importance. In other words to promo on the forum at present is to operate a blog, a little like the Fisk Peel build. A great deal of work, less easy to find for none regulars, and possibly an irritation to some, just as IC news was.

I would add all the different pubnights to that listing page. I bet a few go off locally to people on this forum, who have no idea they do, as they are not in the right club to be told. Such an informative, undemanding, and even handed page of good info would, I think, bring a lot of new viewers to the website making the effort to build it, and possibly to any associated forum itself there to collect the information. Again waiting for feedback from Clubs with no PR is to have out of date information. Of course the info pages reach and accuracy is its own standard bearer. An in depth, accurate, and broad one, will win the prime viewing world wide, and thus the associated media recognition as a resource. In itself a feed back loop (As Dave H has achieved with the Trojan Trust, a far smaller interest topic). If I were to create a service microcar website this would be core to its structure, but I am not.



The question of carrying advertisements is a whole different subject. I am happy with the advertising mediums available and telling the Forum where the ad is. Since RUMcar is only one of the more integral parts of a fractured national interest, it currently does not offer a one stop shop for advertising anymore than the other elements, who claim specialist market position, nor was it set up with that in mind. So I only see a possible move to re-organise longer living information to a resource area, where it is easier to find. More than that requires a fairly major commitment from somebody to take up some sort of service, as suggested above.

No action leaves Messeyman to keep his offer of spares live, or it falls out of sight. Might not seem important till you want to save a few quid on schmitty bits  and he is not there, as he had insufficient support. Been there, done that, fortunately still got the bits which are now worth an awful lot more!
I have a slight vested interest and am just buying some more, mainly, schmitty stuff this week. I think it is set to get expensive, or hard to source, shortly. It will then be time to open up again and clear the decks of much Micro stuff. Would love to do an autojumble stand, but I think only Germany offers an economic return for the effort. Telling in itself.
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Re: bubblecar museum messerschmitt kr200 for sale on ebay
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2014, 09:20:14 AM »
I for one like the notion of Forum members flagging items for sale, not just from E-bay but other sights also.
As you say Bob you have talked to many who don't like this section of the forum page, I've talked to many people who do  8)

Well there you go. You had better flag up the rare 1949 Bond MkA that they are all keeping quite about. Be prepared to be very unpopular with those currently bidding on it though.

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Re: bubblecar museum messerschmitt kr200 for sale on ebay
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2014, 09:34:56 AM »
Al, the solution has already been offered many times over, set up a blog or web page add the wares to it and post a link in the articles for sale section. Its not hard to do!
The other glaringly obvious point is that Rumcars exists to support the rarer microcars, those without a one make club so Schmitts fall outside of that catchment anyway. Most of us love to jaw about all makes on the forum but from the administrators stance schmitts, Bonds, Heinkels, Isetta's dont even come into it.

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Re: bubblecar museum messerschmitt kr200 for sale on ebay
« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2014, 11:03:11 AM »
Regarding the Mark A. It has not met its reserve and i suspect the seller knows its worth. It is a massive restoration and whoever takes it on is going to throw a lot of money at it. I used to give eBay item numbers on this forum but stopped after i realised it made it easy for the cars to be exported. Occasionally i still mention an item but do not give a link. At least we know another Mark A will be restored, i just hope it stays in England.

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Re: bubblecar museum messerschmitt kr200 for sale on ebay
« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2014, 11:36:42 AM »
Al, the solution has already been offered many times over, set up a blog or web page add the wares to it and post a link in the articles for sale section. Its not hard to do!
The other glaringly obvious point is that Rumcars exists to support the rarer microcars, those without a one make club so Schmitts fall outside of that catchment anyway. Most of us love to jaw about all makes on the forum but from the administrators stance schmitts, Bonds, Heinkels, Isetta's dont even come into it.

First para, Just as I pointed out. The default position now and it works after its fashion. Not a huge help to Messyman. But it need not be that way.

Second Para, This is a 'you first, John' argument. Again, it works after a fashion, but there are better ways.
Besides which, Smith's Isettas, Officially Invalid altered KR200, LHD Bonds abroad, RHD four wheeled Trojans. Who speaks for them? Two of those are reported outside club remit due to entrenched views. Boy do the Brits like their fences, with gates to suit the few. No key, not my problem. Well its somebodies, as the news is the hobby is clearly in decline, if rallies are anything to go by. Now Richard will accuse me of being negative, I fear. But it really is not my problem anymore. Not saying its yours either, mind you. Its an observation to which no one is responsible directly, unless they want to be. To make a difference. You have Moped fun, I look forward to the Borg. We have other options. Perhaps to many of us do. (I notice a moped run occurring locally at Stanford in the Vale, Hmm....)

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Re: bubblecar museum messerschmitt kr200 for sale on ebay
« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2014, 12:33:49 PM »
All clubs and organisations have parameters. I wouldnt go to the BOC and ask for help with my Isetta and so on...
As observed, the general forum user is pretty much willing to be helpful to owners of all microcar makes and I think we can be proud of that but from the administration end I quite understand why lines have to sometimes be drawn.
Personally I wouldn't mind at all if Rumcars evolved into a general microcar circle like the Maniacs but without taking the form of a club and all the woes that that entails. For now, it is what it is, we have a lively forum and an excellent magazine but who knows what the future of Rumcars will be?

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Re: bubblecar museum messerschmitt kr200 for sale on ebay
« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2014, 02:08:03 PM »
I've done my blog for like minded people to read and enjoy I didn't mean it to be an irritation , I know I bombard people with pictures but that's easier  for me than explaining what I've been up to, i thought thats what a car forum was all about

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Re: bubblecar museum messerschmitt kr200 for sale on ebay
« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2014, 02:33:22 PM »
And I, for one, am enjoying reading it, Steve.  Do please continue!

(I have no hope or intention of ever having a Peel, but it's interesting to see the problems you face and - particularly - how you solve them.)

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Re: bubblecar museum messerschmitt kr200 for sale on ebay
« Reply #23 on: December 08, 2014, 02:44:43 PM »
Steve, if people were not enjoying your posts you would not have had the positive response you have had. Keep it up till its finished.

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Re: bubblecar museum messerschmitt kr200 for sale on ebay
« Reply #24 on: December 08, 2014, 03:46:53 PM »
I think Steve's is the only thread that has become a blog. I was short of any other example. It is not an irritant, as far as I know. Many other forum have a multitude of plogs. You participate in that as, when, and if you like. Its good stuff. 

The future can be what anyone wants it to be, if they work at it. Very true. Ideas in action trump most things. Just ideas are little more than seed. My fav is a British Microcar Club to pull the bits together. Not going to happen though, I think.
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For sale - Vellam Isetta, Bamby, AC Type 70, Velorex, Church Pod, Reliant Mk5, KR200,  Saab 96, Bellemy Trials, Citroen BXs

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Re: bubblecar museum messerschmitt kr200 for sale on ebay
« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2014, 11:19:49 PM »
fascinating  :-X
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Re: bubblecar museum messerschmitt kr200 for sale on ebay
« Reply #26 on: December 10, 2014, 09:27:31 AM »
Whether it interests us or not, as Steve is just about the only youngster taking an active interest in microcars that we have right now he should be getting maximum encouragement. The skills he is learning whilst building his special will set him in good stead for when he graduates to classic microcars.

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Re: bubblecar museum messerschmitt kr200 for sale on ebay
« Reply #27 on: December 10, 2014, 06:09:38 PM »
Thanks for support !

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Re: bubblecar museum messerschmitt kr200 for sale on ebay
« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2014, 11:25:57 PM »
lol whilst spitting my coffee out all over my laptop bob I am 31 years old ive bin doing bubbles and micros since I was 15 years old ,big al will vouch for that ...so 16 years of playing with toy micro machines don't count lol

ive worked hard to get where I am lol
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Re: bubblecar museum messerschmitt kr200 for sale on ebay
« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2014, 11:38:11 PM »
 You mean to say I'm no longer the baby of the bubble world at the age of 33 !?!   ;)  Mind you, I've only been around here for 13 years so I'm still a veritable newcomer....   ;D