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MICRO CARS ( RELIANT ROBIN )
« on: July 18, 2016, 06:48:33 AM »
Hello everyone,

Back in the day my grand farther owned a Reliant Robin it was a great little car and lots of fun to drive also reminded me of the classical "only fools and horses" also a great program. I am on here because i am looking for microcar books for sale i would like to do a bit of reading up on micro cars see what they are all about, and start a collection to pass down to family members in the future, in a way having my own show room with some memorabilia personally a little to large to fit in most microcars haha. And does any one have any good links to microcar videos on youtube??



Any help would be greatly appreciated!!

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« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2016, 09:18:37 AM »
Dear Hotwheels

Welcome to Rumcar Forum

We have back issues of Rumcar News going back to issue 47 and we are now on issue 129. These can be purchased individually or as a block directly from me as I am the editor.

You may see some issues for sale on Ebay but they usually are more than you can buy back issues from us direct.

Most Rumcar News readers are avid collectors of all things microcar, and so it is rare to see Rumcar News or books offered for sale.

There are some books that have been published over the years by such people as Chris Rees and Elvis Payne, that do come up on ebay occasionally. Reviews of all the books that have been written on the subject are reviewed in the pages of Rumcar News.

There are magazines published in the USA - Microcar News -  with a definite US flavour on the subject.

Beyond that you then come to the one make club magazines, for Bond or Heinkel of Messerschmitt, or Isetta etc.

Beyond that there are some foreign language books that specialise on the cars of that country such as Spain, and Germany. There is a French magazine specifically for modern French Microcars - Generation sans permis .

Happy hunting.

Chris Thomas
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Re: MICRO CARS ( RELIANT ROBIN )
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2016, 09:41:31 AM »
Thanks Chris,

I will definitely check out the magazines on microcar news should be a good read, but i do like the Rumcar news it sounds like a collectors item to come!! what happened to the other 46 issues?? or are they rare and hard to come across??

Thanks for the reply

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« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2016, 11:06:57 AM »
There are some books that have been published over the years by such people as Chris Rees and Elvis Payne, that do come up on ebay occasionally. Reviews of all the books that have been written on the subject are reviewed in the pages of Rumcar News.

There are magazines published in the USA - Microcar News -  with a definite US flavour on the subject.

Beyond that you then come to the one make club magazines, for Bond or Heinkel of Messerschmitt, or Isetta etc.

Beyond that there are some foreign language books that specialise on the cars of that country such as Spain, and Germany. There is a French magazine specifically for modern French Microcars - Generation sans permis .

This remains an unanswered question for me. There are some very fine books printed in other languages. Yet in English, perhaps the most read language now, there are a few coffee table books and such. Nothing approaching the well researched and dedicated books from abroad. I do not understand why this is so, save the Germans take greater pride in the manufacturing history than we, in Britain, do. The French? Well they back themselves in many things, not least in the use of their language. Again there is pride in achievement. Here, we are almost proud to have flushed our vehicle manufacturing history down the toilet of time. Quite bizarre.
It remains to point out that our own Stuart Cyphus, and Elvis Payne, produced a detailed book, in two parts, covering Reliant three wheelers. As far as I know nothing exists in any depth similar for microcars in the UK. For me that is not just a gap of opportunity, it is a reflection on the lack of appreciation for detailed accounts of a factual nature in the general population. It suggest no demand in depth for information. That is worrying, as its a sign of dumbing down.
Of course a more cohesive set of MIcrocar clubs could get together to resolve this lack of published information. But they choose to merely have tacit links, achieving no great unity of thought. I think the initiative will have to come from an individual tick skinned enough to be told he is wrong.
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For sale - Vellam Isetta, Bamby, AC Type 70, Velorex, Church Pod, Reliant Mk5, KR200,  Saab 96, Bellemy Trials, Citroen BXs

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Re: MICRO CARS ( RELIANT ROBIN )
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2016, 11:11:29 AM »
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« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2016, 04:00:15 AM »
http://www.world-of-reliant.org.uk/phpBB3/index.php

this may help .

If these books are easy enough to get hold of we could always get them translated and then released on the internet somewhere or if you know the author get permission to translate which is highly unlikely.. this way the books will be out there for everyone to enjoy !! ;) 

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« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2016, 05:50:34 AM »


Brilliant!!!!

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« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2016, 08:02:28 AM »
If these books are easy enough to get hold of we could always get them translated and then released on the internet somewhere or if you know the author get permission to translate which is highly unlikely.. this way the books will be out there for everyone to enjoy !! ;)

That is my worry entirely on producing a well referenced book. That it becomes freely available on the internet and sales are thus limited. I fail to gain a return on my long learned knowledge and the effort to produce a quality resource. It is the same reason once great factual websites have discontinued some of their more in depth analysis of data on various topics. They found that their work was being taken, and posted elsewhere, and then misused, in some cases, to make money for someone else.  I seem to be a bit of a loan voice on all this, but knowledge is something that is normally gained by some kind of effort. It would be wonderful to have it freely available. However if there is free information, who is motivated to do the research and then present it in bite sized, friendly chunks. A decreasing number of people who have the time and ability to do so free of charge. And we know that system works as there have been calls for many wonderful things on this very website. Encyclopedia of cars in pictures. A library of members cars etc etc. The stumbling block is ever - who is to do the graft to put the idea into practice. Silence.

The only protection a product has is copyright. That is only as good as the legal procedure to initiate it. In this modern world copyright is failing. Intellectual theft is on the increase. Its been a problem with the UK as our Government has been subordinated to the EU. Neither has been robustly protecting British copyrights and patents as they should. Result, a great deal of lost revenue, on lost profit. Yet the public queue up to throw their intellectual property away free on Facebook and other pirate sites. There are several pictures I specifically did not want published. But they were posted by others. Now those pictures belong to to someone else and continue to pop up without so much as a by or leave. A secret is only a secret if you do not tell anyone, so sadly many collections are now behind closed doors, not accessible but to very few, no cameras or phones.

So I have rejected going down that route to publication of a encyclopedia of microcars like the English Deutsch Klienwagon, the same as I have on a set of manuals to help get cars going. I do not think the return is there for my efforts to create the product, in part due to intellectual theft. My writing is directed to other forms of prose, which whilst factual, contains plot and tale. Like those wonderful Arthur Ransome books including Swallows and Amazons. Many a youngster learned to sail from that book, it tells you all you need to know to get started. You do not even know your learning when you read it. That is the way to do it, I think.

Sorry to hang this on what was probably a frivolous comment that we would all like to see come true in a swine free world. Its an observation, not an answer.
Messerschmitt set, Goggo Darts, Heinkel 175, Fiat Jolly, Autobianchi, Fairthorpe Electron Minor, Borgward, Isuzu Trooper
Citroen BX 17TZD & GTI 16v
Held - MG Magnette ZB & 4/44
For sale - Vellam Isetta, Bamby, AC Type 70, Velorex, Church Pod, Reliant Mk5, KR200,  Saab 96, Bellemy Trials, Citroen BXs

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Re: MICRO CARS ( RELIANT ROBIN )
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