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DaveMiller

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Re: People viewed today and Jan. 2013
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2017, 11:42:18 AM »
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At this point, I can only wish to know how we might entice other non posters to avoid the considerable contradiction of posting their reasons for not posting.
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I'm of the opposite view.  Where people are no longer posting, it will be helpful if they DO actually enter the contradiction of posting their reasons for not (usually) posting.

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Re: People viewed today and Jan. 2013
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2017, 12:01:24 PM »
That is not the opposite view.
That is my view also.

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Re: People viewed today and Jan. 2013
« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2017, 12:30:26 PM »
Maybe RUMcar needs a Facebook page. No doubt someone will tell me it has already. You cannot argue with a vote very easily, even an unofficial footfall one, but it does not mean everyone is going to comply to change, be it good, bad, or indifferent.

I have yet to find anyone who can demonstrate to me why Facebook and such, are 'better'.  Indeed most of my immediate friends have nothing to do with it. My family do, and assume I know what they put up. So they get frustrated, since I do not live in their world of mobiles, texting (Drivel of the first order if you are profoundly dyslexic and recognise words as pixels representing ideas or objects)  and Facebook. Currently we have them organising a Cousins meeting that was to have been here, now in East Sussex, to sort out the huge quantity of photographs, here in my loft, left over from family deaths. I have them by default, as no Executors dealt with them at the time, and I did all the clearance works, since no one else was showing a leg and I get things done. Having agreed to this remote, non central venue, at half term, between themselves, they booked themselves the free and cheap accommodation. Then someone thought it might be an idea to tell me about it. On the basis that that trip will cost me at least £130 to attend in its entirety, or its a day's difficult and unappealing driving, loaded with god knows how many boxes of pictures, I am not greatly interested. Its simpler to have the pictures where folk can get at them, and have the ability to take them away in vehicles. They are not going to be able to shift what needs to be shifted by train. So there is the success of Facebook. The key player is not on it, so you get a misfired opportunity. The analogy, of course, is to hide wittering of events on Facebook, immediately removing all none Facebook adherents from information on your event, insuring a lower turn out than should be obtained by proper advertising using at least all the free mediums. One of those is to collect peoples email addresses and send the information directly! Far to obvious for any microcar rally so far.

Like the mobile, the reason I need to be on Facebook is actually because other people want to contact me. I am not really wanting to contact them, but if I do I use email or my land line. I do not want my private life hijacked and publicised, and commercialised, for others interest. Everyone knows I am but an email away. Seems its all to much bother, until the task needs my skills to resolve it. That suits me fine, I could quite happily be a recluse, but I think its not healthy for the mind. 
 
Judging by the input over time, the majority do not really care which way things fall. They will happily view what is made available to them. Maybe Facebook does that better, I could not say. I find it hard to get through the advertising and drivel to read the interesting stuff. Clearly there must be a way, as I accuse Facebook as an invitation to look at drivel in the same way Richard places the forums as places of drivel. One just has to agree to differ on a head-locked position like that. For I am not going to say he is wrong. I reserve the right to be proven wrong and change my mind. Nor that topics should not ramble off track. It comes down to if its interesting, or entertaining, for me. It was upsetting others, so I trimmed back on it for those Forum that stated a preference against it. This at the risk of little or no follow up dialogue on the threads, as I prefer to call it, rather than a topic. Perhaps this is where the difference lays.
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Re: People viewed today and Jan. 2013
« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2017, 01:35:04 PM »
Did you see the results for Facebook today.  100% increase in profit this year.  More new users this year than the whole of the users of Twitter.  Doesn't seem to be running out of steam.
There must be either a lot of delusional people about or Facebook are offering something people want - I suppose an increase of that magnitude is a bit like a vote?

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Re: People viewed today and Jan. 2013
« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2017, 02:51:14 PM »
This is sounding like a post mortem. :)
I was in at the start of this forum and the reason I stopped using it was that after years of posting stuff and starting topics to keep things jogging along I was told that I was not allowed to express my opinion anymore on certain topics. As I understood that expressing opinions was one of the very reasons for a forums existence it seemed pointless after that.
I started http://vintagemicrocarsandbubblecars.freeforums.org/index.php  Its still jogging along, people are allowed to say what they want and there hasnt been a cross word so far. I actually like people going off topic because as Steve said, it creates new ones.
In my view it takes a small nucleus of people to be actively looking for stuff to post and thus keep the momentum going. Something I tried to do whilst I was involved. It mattered not if people disagreed with your opinions.
This and also vintaegmicrocars has suffered with the advent of the facebook groups, they are easy to join, modern folk with there mobile devices post things on the go, taking photo's and forwarding them straight on to FB. Ok, they can be a little shallow where all some are prepared to contribute is clicking a LIKE button and will never be a reference library.  I dont particularly like the format but if that is where its happening it should be encouraged and not knocked. I did consider for a time converting my forum into a FB group but I still have some users that dont use FB yet. If that changes we will make the move.  As Rumcars is currently looking for a new webmaster that may be an easy answer.  OK, you would lose the archive element but how many actually search back for stuff. There is always RCN which has covered most topics.  Just my observations as an "outsider"
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Re: People viewed today and Jan. 2013
« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2017, 02:51:40 PM »
That is not the opposite view.
That is my view also.

Well, I can only go by what you write, Steven:

> I can only wish to know how we might entice other non posters to avoid the considerable contradiction of posting their reasons for not posting <

Perhaps you prefer to have them make those posts, rather than avoid making them?

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Re: People viewed today and Jan. 2013
« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2017, 03:47:33 PM »
Did you see the results for Facebook today.  100% increase in profit this year.  More new users this year than the whole of the users of Twitter.  Doesn't seem to be running out of steam.
There must be either a lot of delusional people about or Facebook are offering something people want - I suppose an increase of that magnitude is a bit like a vote?

As I said, footfall wins the debate. However a lot of people rushed to join up thinking the Great War would be over by Christmas..... Rich men got richer then, too, but not for particularly good reasons!
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Re: People viewed today and Jan. 2013
« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2017, 04:13:09 PM »

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Well, I can only go by what you write, Steven:

> I can only wish to know how we might entice other non posters to avoid the considerable contradiction of posting their reasons for not posting <

Perhaps you prefer to have them make those posts, rather than avoid making them?
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Yes Dave, what I was attempting to convey was my wish to see the potential posters actually post their reasons for not posting, despite their contradictory track record so far.
I see how you could have read it another way.

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Re: People viewed today and Jan. 2013
« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2017, 04:35:05 PM »
Not post apocalyptic, then. Just post haste, rather than last past the post, before the last post is sounded on these posts. Whether it is two short planks that are a poll in the mind, to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous flatulence. Or take arms against a sea of bubblers. and opposing them, end. Sorry its from Piglet, not Richard the Third,
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steven mandell

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Re: People viewed today and Jan. 2013
« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2017, 04:51:37 PM »
I'm half expecting Bob to call for  a nurse to bring meds to isle Al, like he used to.
Differing views expressed differently is what a forum is for.
If we all agreed on everything, there would be less use for discussion, and lesser to interest as well.

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Re: People viewed today and Jan. 2013
« Reply #25 on: February 02, 2017, 04:56:06 PM »
I agree.

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Re: People viewed today and Jan. 2013
« Reply #26 on: February 02, 2017, 05:20:54 PM »
My interest lies in the less exotic micros, chiefly the Isetta, but was always interested in the KR200 too, just could never afford one!

I administrate a facebook page- The BMW Isetta fan Club. Very lively with members all over the World. I also run a FB group for model submariners. I think FB works, because it's more personable, a little bit like having an informal chat with like minded people rather than writing a letter, which forums can be more like sometimes. Each have their pros and cons.

Interesting about what was mentioned regarding technical know how. I've learnt far more related to techniques and info through FB than the forums.
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Re: People viewed today and Jan. 2013
« Reply #27 on: February 03, 2017, 01:45:57 PM »
Not sure how or why my reply upset Mr. Dobie ? Don't shoot the messenger !
Bob seems to use this forum to very cheekily advertises blatantly his own forum 😂 Incidentally I actually left Bobs forum as that was even worse 😂 With about half a dozen regulars and without Bob posting himself almost every day would be the same as here .
It's a shame though and Bob starting another forum didn't help , but don't think it's all happening there instead , cos it ain't 😞
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Re: People viewed today and Jan. 2013
« Reply #28 on: February 03, 2017, 02:01:06 PM »
Not sure how or why my reply upset Mr. Dobie ?

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