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steven mandell

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Re: Ligier for Sale
« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2017, 06:09:40 PM »
Barry,
Thanks for another couple of hours of entertaining, but still confusing video and blog posts.
That first video in your last post does show another example of a two holed intake manifold either sandwhitching
a four holed Reed valve, or mounted to a four holed cylinder flange.
Unfortunately I don't  understand anything of the French language.
Does anyone else reading this understand French speaking?
If you do, I'd appreciate you telling us what the speaker in the video is saying, as it appears that he is explaining exactly this question that we are trying to answer.
I will appreciate any help from Rumcars readers.
Thanks,
Steve

steven mandell

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Re: Ligier for Sale
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2018, 10:23:23 AM »
Surprised with France so close to your border that no one has yet volunteered a synopsis of what the French guy was saying about the intake in the video that you posted.
However, Jonathan came home and offered the following response to some of my questions:

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Re: Ligier for Sale
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2018, 10:58:49 AM »
Very useful.

You need to become an expert in the differences between an AV7, AV10 and 99Z engine.

It is one thing to decide on a selection of parts for the power end of the engine - Carb, manifold, reed valve, barrel (cc), head etc.  It is another thing trying to make sure the Ligier ring-gear for starter motor and transmission all fit.

The earlier photo of my Supercomtesse barrel and carb is misleading in that there is no forced air cooling.  Just a scoop under the car.  The ligier has a full shroud around the barrel so may not need the big fin cooling.
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Re: Ligier for Sale
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2018, 12:24:14 PM »
The fully shrouded fan cooling offered in the Ligier set up is why I am considering the cheaper Air Sol kits that are offered in both 70 cc and "74" cc versions with smaller fins than the much more expensive Malasi  kit .
The Malasi  kit looks to be better engineered, but apparently has a huge exhaust port that no available exhaust will bolt up to, and either would not fit within the shroud, or much more likely than with the air Sol kits, the much larger fins would block the proper airflow within the shroud, thus making over heating much more, rather than less likely.
Do the Air Sol kits look like they could interfere with the location of the ring gear?

Would love to talk to anyone with experience using either of these kits to find out what is truly involved, and what results can be expected.   But much more likely to find this on a moped forum or through a club.
Do you have any leads in regard to this?

I found a resource online that lists different moprd engine setups followed by a space for very subjective commentary.
It even gives the names of the people that authored the info- but frustratingly, no contact info. 
This sort of endeavor is in need of a  very thorough discussion prior to making a most qualified decision as to desirable options to exploit.
So I am stuck in the mud until I can talk to individuals that have used these kits.
Still nobody that understands French has bothered to watch the video you sent in a few posts ago?

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Re: Ligier for Sale
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2018, 12:53:21 PM »

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