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General Category => Unusual Microcar Discussion => Topic started by: P50 on March 03, 2011, 02:00:09 PM
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Priced from £15k - not cheap but what price for a 60's icon?
http://www.peelengineering.co.uk/p-50.php
You take your life in your own hands in an original or not on the queens highway in 2011..
http://www.peelengineering.co.uk/trident.php
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But it is not a 60's icon. It is a 21st century icon as that is when the bulk of cars have been made and put to the market. The question is which do you want and how much do you want to pay for it. Now it really is not worth buying a real Peel as an investment unless it has a known history to prove what it is unless it is cheap. The wise but none informed collector buyer will otherwise not be able to sort out the real from the fake from the replica. Good luck with the replicas but I think the only real satisfaction is owning the real thing. I can think of many better purchases for £15k - like two totally accurate replica Peels built by oneself! Fortunately I do not need them so I can dream of all the other things I could buy.
If the Queen owns the Highway then who owns all the potholes? You could park a Peel in some of the ones round here!
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Well she can pay to have them filled then!
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But it is not a 60's icon.
I was being facetious. It's a 60's shaped 21st century car.
It is a 21st century icon as that is when the bulk of cars have been made and put to the market. The question is which do you want and how much do you want to pay for it. Now it really is not worth buying a real Peel as an investment unless it has a known history to prove what it is unless it is cheap.
Not hard to suss what's a real one or not. More chance of having a sly plop in the Queens handbag than pulling the wool over the Peel Mafia's eyes... So I think you're well wide of the mark (or marque) regarding fakes vs real. Yes punters will be duped but I doubt you Al would not know what's real or not. Or should I say Peel (pun again) off your hard earned for a car...
The wise but none informed collector buyer will otherwise not be able to sort out the real from the fake from the replica. Good luck with the replicas but I think the only real satisfaction is owning the real thing. I can think of many better purchases for £15k - like two totally accurate replica Peels built by oneself! Fortunately I do not need them so I can dream of all the other things I could buy.
If the Queen owns the Highway then who owns all the potholes? You could park a Peel in some of the ones round here!
Good luck to 'em. It's a business. Business's are supposed to make money. If it sells these cars for a fair old whack then the aim is accomplished.
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Good luck to 'em. It's a business. Business's are supposed to make money. If it sells these cars for a fair old whack then the aim is accomplished.
I agree. A knock on the door does not mean it has to be opened. With no laws or rights to infringe it is open season. I will be fascinated to see the prolification of versions and to see if anyone actually comes up with one that is;
a/ better than the real one - real or accurate copy!
b/ actually usable as daily local transport.
c/ cheap enough to buy as a toy - see the 'Evan 'Elpus' Schmitts which are not greatly less sophisticated and priced rather reasonably I think.
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Dear Al
What do you think the position would be if somebody (!) decided to build some replicas of the original Peel 50 and made them truly roadworthy with a modern Aprilla or similar 50cc engine and called it a Peal 50.
Would the present Peel Engineering Company have any grounds for bringing a court action agaist them for either the product or the name?
Chris Thomas
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Dear Al
What do you think the position would be if somebody (!) decided to build some replicas of the original Peel 50 and made them truly roadworthy with a modern Aprilla or similar 50cc engine and called it a Peal 50.
Would the present Peel Engineering Company have any grounds for bringing a court action agaist them for either the product or the name?
Chris Thomas
Aprillaintly not! Indeed I think you could call it a Peel. You would not be able to mention Peel Engineering Company. Will someone try this, though an Andy Carter Tina powered machine falls in the same bracket really and he has done this pre-dating PEC. THe problem is more likely registration.
Would the Aprilla one be for the police? The Apeala Plod 50.
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Dear Al
Do we know where Peel Engineering are purchasing their P50 bodies from? Could it be from Mr Carter?
Chris Thomas
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Dear Al
Do we know where Peel Engineering are purchasing their P50 bodies from? Could it be from Mr Carter?
Chris Thomas
I dont think the bodies are from Mr. Carter. As far as i was informed , the bodies are own production of the new Peel Engineering company.
Ferdi Tillmanns
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Do we know where Peel Engineering are purchasing their P50 bodies from? Could it be from Mr Carter?
Unless informed otherwise I am fairly certain that the very first set of replica bodies they had commissioned were done by Carter.
I would hazard a guess that they used those bodies to create their own master molds somewhere else.
Someone in the States was planning on doing something similar and was blabbing about it but that tree never bore any fruit.
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watch this space ;)
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Can I just say that Root broke my Trident at the weekend. There I was sat on a plastic bin while he was attempting to use it. The head failed and I now I find I have two halves needing a new shaft. He broke my grass rake as well!
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Alas to say I did indeed bust the Hitchcock Trident :-[ shortly after a rather alarming explosion & much popping, banging & smoke arising. Still, I blame woodworm & am glad I've chosen a Honda engine if that's what the smokey, poppy, bangy ones do when you just walk past one!
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In the good old days, when roads were made from clay, people used to pinch the clay to make pots.......hence the word 'pot hole'. Whoever stiil owns a clay pot probably owns the pot hole.....
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Alas to say I did indeed bust the Hitchcock Trident :-[ shortly after a rather alarming explosion & much popping, banging & smoke arising. Still, I blame woodworm & am glad I've chosen a Honda engine if that's what the smokey, poppy, bangy ones do when you just walk past one!
Is Al and Lord Cyphus the Bert and Ernie of the microcar world?!!
(http://licensingbook.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/bert-and-ernie.jpg)
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I've got a rubber ducky!
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If you follow the link to "peel engineering's" (GB's!!!!) site there is a very interesting video on there, showing the Sun test driving both a P50 and Trident... spot the mistakes.. the winner gets the rights to build peel cars...:
http://www.peelengineering.co.uk/videos.php?view=thesun
1962.... ??? always been British?? (forgive me if I'm wrong but the IOM is a country in its own right?) one of the last major car brands in the country... how about the gap between the last ones being made and replica production starting?? and using a peel p50 to "pull a bird" ? its a one seater, you'd need a trident to take her home!! And is it me, or is the back of that trident almost on the floor, he might want to get his suspension settings checked before selling it!! lol
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What was it they said, 'never let the facts spoil a good story'!
The only thing that certainly comes out of these various attempts to market a small car/bike/electric vehicle is that there would seem to be a market out there but no one has yet hit the right product at the right price. With stress on fuel and city driving that market must be growing. The Peel is a bit small but then the parameters for a inner city vehicle have been set to tiny. I think a Scootacar would be too big but is a better answer for instance. Modified styling and proper use of all the interior space would see it a very handy commuter. Sadly the Schmitts, Heinkels etc are to long so retro styling them is not going to work unless the Schmitt becomes a single seater - a Fitzer in fact. Then again is retro style the way to go?