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General Category => Unusual Microcar Discussion => Topic started by: Rusty Chrome (Malcolm Parker) on February 03, 2014, 08:36:14 PM
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Has anyone any experience of taking one of these apart? I've got one switch with a beautiful knob and damage to the mounting plate and another with a beautiful mounting plate and a damaged knob - the electrical side of thigs looks straightforward, but I wondered if these two plastic parts can be seperated?
http://www.holden.co.uk/displayproduct.asp?sg=1&pgCode=020&sgName=Electrical&pgName=Switches&agCode=0514&agName=Direction+Indicator+Switches&pCode=SPB120# (http://www.holden.co.uk/displayproduct.asp?sg=1&pgCode=020&sgName=Electrical&pgName=Switches&agCode=0514&agName=Direction+Indicator+Switches&pCode=SPB120#)
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sorry malcolm i have one here somewhere but couldn't find it to have a look . obviously the centre unscrews to take a bulb is there some sort of circlip in there to release it ?
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I have not immediate access to one but I have a nasty feeling its crimped over like a large rivet. If so it will part but might be a challenge to reassemble. Then again they have been made a long time so there maybe differing patterns over time.
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al i think that rings a bell with me too i.e. sealed :-\
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Thanks everyone, I was having trouble unscrewing the bulb cover and thought there might be some other secret mechanism beneath, but it looks like its just a thin alloy tube which is pushed through the knob and then peened over, I'm guessing even if I could unpeen it, it would probably be too fragile to put back together again or make the switch part very difficult to turn.
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"The Bond microcar solves your problem"- and gives host to a batch of new ones it its place. ::)
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That is effectively as I remember. Time was these switches were not expensive. However if the price reaches a certain level it is worth replicating the blank of the internal metal part. Then switches that offer perfect elements can be assembled. As to a fix now, I cannot offer a solution.
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"The Bond microcar solves your problem"- and gives host to a batch of new ones it its place. ::)
To be fair to Bond, the indicators (and the switch) are accessories, not original equipment. I've tested the hand signals, and they still work. ;)
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I just had a look at an old switch I have (lugs broken on base plate), and yes, I reckon the switch is held together by peening over the central brass tube. Not likely to allow a reliable fix.
It would be nice on an older Bond to use the Lucas part that later Bonds used, but not compulsory. I recall my Mk C, in 1970, had had flashers fitted even back then, which used a 3-position toggle switch on the dash, with separate warning lamp, and there are other models similar to the Lucas one that come rather cheaper. For example, right now on eBay:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-NOS-Vintage-Indicator-Switch-Reduced-to-Clear-/331075714579?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4d15a67e13
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LUCAS-Indicator-Switch-Vintage-Classic-Car-Austin-Morris-Riley-Alvis-MG-Bentley-/251440314497?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3a8b02b881
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Thanks for that Dave, those are both considerably cheaper. :)
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Is there a difference - the serial numbers quoted are different and there is quite a difference in price (at the moment).
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-Lucas-Made-in-UK-SPB120-Indicator-Switch-31476-/201011236407?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2ecd340e37
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-LUCAS-SD84-Trafficator-Indicator-Switch-Morris-Austin-Hillman-Nos-/231152840476?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item35d1c86f1c
I have a black one of these bodged onto my Heinkel scooter - temporarily in about 1985. If I could find a good Heinkel switch I could release the Lucus bodge.
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Is the Heinkel switch difficult to get? Used to see them at Mannhiem.
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Out of sight, out of mind. Once the Heinkel Tourist went into storage I forgot all about replacing the Lucus switch.
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Hi Malcom, I visited this chap in Oxford who sells car parts he has a Bond Minicar MKG and is selling all the parts off and there was an indicator switch still fitted so if you still want one or any other parts it might be worth contacting him his establishment is called:
P Bruno Car Repairs
Tel 01865 883 413
Address:
Unit 7
Bottom Yard
Oakfield Industrial Estate
Witney
Oxfordshire
OX29 4TN
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Who says I have all the stuff round here. New to me. Get there before Root! I am not competing.
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losing your touch al - i am shocked ! :o
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Oakfield Industrial Estate is the south end of Eynsham, several miles further up the A40 from Witney, so the address is a bit misleading. It wasn't a white Mk G single estate by any chance was it Jim? So once again Eynsham throws up a micro. A Bond Mk G, the 'Wasties' Peel Trident, and no doubt Alan's had other stuff out of the vicinity over the years....
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Bottom Yard
Oakfield Industrial Estate
I wonder how many bum deals have been made there. 8)
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It must be this guy , you could message him and ask about other parts. By the way you had seats off me at nottingham didn't you ? Or was that jim ? I could well have the matching original door panels . As i am going Tourer ( different from Commando ;) ) i will be making plain ones . The estate ones are ribbed
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bond-Mini-Car-Spares-Drivers-door-/111284166998#ht_22wt_919