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General Category => Unusual Microcar Discussion => Topic started by: richard on November 06, 2013, 06:59:59 PM
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now who do we know with one of these ;)
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Nice! I cannot tell from my small screen, but is that 2 tone?
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Yes , I've only just started to appreciate Treinkels in pastel shades but this looks nice
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When I was about 12-16 in Kent, the station master at East Farleigh had a Treinkel (not sure which) always parked just behind the level crossing gates, finished in pearlescent white and I thought it looked fantastic. It was the first Treinkel that I was able to get a good close look at. I had briefly seen Hs and Ts but could never figure out why they looked so similar!
I am not quite sure how he managed to get his wife and 10 children into it!
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Forgive my ignorance but did Heinkel actually make convertibles?
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Mikes your man on this one but that's a period motorshow - Brussels , very few made I do remember going on the last Stoery road run in mikes - lovely
can't recall why i said Brussels, where did that sprout from , it's on a site with some listed as Frankfurt so am now unsure
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Dear Richard, Bob and Marcus
My Friend Bryan, who worked for International Sales, says that while it was Heinkel only two were made, one in the London and one in Dundalk. It is said that the Trojan convertible shown at the 1962 show was the UK built Heinkel with a Trojan badge on, and that no Trojan convertibles were ever officially made. That is not to say somebody may have done a chop on a later one after they rolled it.
Chris Thomas
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Hi Chris
Your "Freind" Bryan is mistaken - there was one built in london ( at international sales ) - but driven to Dundalk, and later sold on to do rallies where it was written off ( in Ireland )
We at the Heinkle Trojan Archives trust have pictures of at least six heinkel/Trojan convertibles some with three wheels ans some with four wheels - you will be telling us next that the Trojan sign on the front door was to cover up the holes left by the Heinkle-I sign.
Mike
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Out of curiousity which is yours Mike, a factory one or a later conversion?
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Hi Bob
My Heinkel Ireland convertible is a copy based on the original drawings of the one pruduced at International Sales - That is why I know so much about them - My Trojan Bubble van is the original prototype that 18 of them were produced.
Mike
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Is there a picture of one with the roof up (assuming they had one) - I was wondering how they dealt with the side windows?
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A later attempt.... ::)
http://www.arcar.org/heinkel-1957-en54983
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the best i can do as its across two pages in Sparrows excellent book ( excellent as it also has my Trojan :) ) it's Mikes of course . Tow bar from towing The Nutshell Caravan to Stoery Rally ?
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Dear Mike
Reading through your comments it sounds like the original Heinkel convertible built in London was written off, and no other convertibles were officially built by either Heinkel or Trojan, so any that exist are copies using modified standard cars. Or have I misunderstood?
It is good to know that somebody is keeping tabs on this.
Chris Thomas
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surely mike said " at least 6 " chris - plain speaking to me ??? how many survive of those originals is unknown i think.
The Heinkel Trojan Archive does not keep anything on other than ORIGINAL materials ex- factory therefore anything in the Archive is a fact not speculation - 6 photographed = at least 6 built
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I was also left slightly confused as to if the six were originals or copies. Still now we know. Thanks.
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Hi Bob
I was not around at the time they were produced - but the six photos that I have in the archive collection are all different they are different fronts different backs one or maybe two are four wheelers - we have always assumed that they were different car's but until we know differently we assumed that they were - 55 years ago was a bit difficult to remeber what Heinkel in Germany - Heinkel in Argentina - Heinkel Ireland ( in two locations ) and Trojan did - but the Trojan Convertible car built at the Trojan works in Croydon was not the one wrecked in a off road trial in Ireland ???
Mike
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We had a similar problem with the Inter register, some of the cars just known from photographs turned out to be the same car. Different colours and different ownerships over many decades does muddy the waters!
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Hi Bob
The photographes were press photographes taken at the time not later photographes - unless they put out a three wheeler one month then recalled it into the workshops re-jigs the back end changed the number plate made it into a four wheeler and took another photograph of it - I think highly unlikely - unless you know differently :D
Mike
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So the short answer is that no one really knows for sure how many convertibles were factory made then?