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General Category => Unusual Microcar Discussion => Topic started by: Bob Purton on January 31, 2015, 12:12:41 PM

Title: French microcars blog
Post by: Bob Purton on January 31, 2015, 12:12:41 PM
Just been looking at Donald La Bian's restoration blog again. For anyone not aware of this, its well worth a look. French microcars from the golden age, not fridges!  Some very exotic. Is the Avolette not one of the most wonderful looking microcars ever?

http://donald.over-blog.com/

Can I recommend page 26 for rare shots of the scanty Avolette frame with body off.

VIEW THE BLOG AT YOUR OWN RISK. One member reported pop up problems.
Title: Re: French microcars blog
Post by: marcus on January 31, 2015, 12:23:06 PM
Good site, cheers Bob.
Title: Re: French microcars blog
Post by: Jean on January 31, 2015, 07:08:49 PM
I tried to watch this blog but unfortunately the following message came up on my screen   

Access to the web page was blocked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. The web page is on the list of websites with potentially dangerous content.

Has any one else experienced this problem? Jean

Title: Re: French microcars blog
Post by: richard on January 31, 2015, 08:29:08 PM
thanks Bob lovely images , agree about the Bruetsch Avolette  :) seen before i know but these two share just that bit of " je ne sais quoi "  ? but the Avolette wins I think  ;)
 
as regards Jean , no I am not aware of this problem but my French is very poor  :-[
Title: Re: French microcars blog
Post by: marcus on January 31, 2015, 08:32:13 PM
I had no trouble and no message.
Title: Re: French microcars blog
Post by: richard on January 31, 2015, 08:38:39 PM
I tried but cannot reproduce any of the pictures here but that is the oddest steering arrangement . Cable I presume ?
Title: Re: French microcars blog
Post by: Bob Purton on January 31, 2015, 09:08:24 PM
Yes, I cant figure that steering out either. A curved steering column so it must have a flexible inner core that perhaps has a worm on the end ?  Does anyone know?
Title: Re: French microcars blog
Post by: Bob Purton on January 31, 2015, 11:07:33 PM
here is a picture of the frame, A reasonable view of the steering too if you can enlarge it a little.
Title: Re: French microcars blog
Post by: DaveMiller on January 31, 2015, 11:33:30 PM
Jean: the message probably came from the anti-virus software that you are using.

I noticed that, while the blog contents were themselves interesting, there were also various "adverts" on the page which would not be what they claimed to be. (One, I recall, talked about software now being ready, and gave a button to "restart your PC" - hardly what would come up on a webpage itself.)

Though I don't think I clicked anywhere on the blog, apart from to scroll the page, it was only a few minutes after viewing the blog that I received a notification saying "You have received a f**k request, at distance 2.5 miles" - plus a link I could click to get an app which, I suppose, would further that pursuit.

I suggest the link be removed.

[Full word changed to use asterisks, to protect the sensitive]
Title: Re: French microcars blog
Post by: marcus on February 01, 2015, 08:23:34 AM
No problems here, but I have a Mac and they are less prone to viruses.

As the column is curved in all  axes I can only assume it has a flexible drive inside. You can get these for drills and other power tools. They tend to be made of one (small drives) or two layers of coiled square section steel with the core wound clockwise and the outer wound ant-clockwise (or vice-versa). The windings look a bit like the outer windings of a Bowden cable, but instead of one or two steel strips at a shallow angle along the length, the multiple strips give a much higher "thread" angel.

It would work for but would not be cheap and probably less good than having mechanical linkages or gears. The curves are relatively large so the friction build up will not be too bad, and on such a light vehicle, backlash /flex in the flexible drive shaft would probably not be too bad bad I would imagine a certain amount of "wander" anyway!

Either they had a good supplier of flexi drives, or (most likely) space and ergonomics ruled out mechanical or geared steering.
Title: Re: French microcars blog
Post by: Bob Purton on February 01, 2015, 09:42:52 AM
In the light of Dave's post maybe I should add, view Donalds blog at your own risk.

Yes, it is a very weird steering set up but as they say, the French dont do things quite the same way as anyone else.
Title: Re: French microcars blog
Post by: richard on February 01, 2015, 10:18:30 AM
i think this must have the French answer to Egon Bruetsch's steering column here seen in his Zwerg ( Dwarf )  that later became the Avolette
Title: Re: French microcars blog
Post by: richard on February 01, 2015, 10:28:34 AM
and this was the set up on my Bruetsch Pfeil ( Dart/Arrow) though not sure if original
Title: Re: French microcars blog
Post by: marcus on February 01, 2015, 10:32:51 AM
I just cannot see how they could have got Universal joints into the avolette's slender curved column.
Title: Re: French microcars blog
Post by: richard on February 01, 2015, 10:46:36 AM
I don't suggest that for a minute , surely it was changed as you described
Title: Re: French microcars blog
Post by: Bob Purton on February 01, 2015, 11:30:05 AM
Thanks for that Richard. One would think that a bracket and a universal joint would be much cheaper than a custom bent tube with a teleflex style cable snuggly fitted inside wouldnt you.
Here is the Tourette steering, it has a Standard 10 steering box with some ungainly linkages. I had a chance to play around with both Jeans car and Wayne Lee's and although the set up looks a mess delivers fairly slop free movement.
Title: Re: French microcars blog
Post by: Rob Dobie on February 01, 2015, 12:34:00 PM
How strange, adverts coming up on someones blog.  I had a look, even translated it into English via my computer, no adverts, no smut, just a straight forward interesting blog.
Title: Re: French microcars blog
Post by: richard on February 01, 2015, 01:27:10 PM
Funny the only thing I found sexy was the steering column and wheel - tres chic  ;) by the way Bob how did you download those pics I couldn't - I would like the 3 Avolettes as wallpaper for a bit
Title: Re: French microcars blog
Post by: DaveMiller on February 01, 2015, 01:31:59 PM
I just dared myself to visit the blog again.  Just five silly "trapverts" this time, all saying 'You have one message".

On my previous visit, the blog itself occupied maybe 40% of the space, the other stuff 60%.

I was careful not to click ANYTHING ... and will see what now happens  ???

Title: Re: French microcars blog
Post by: Bob Purton on February 01, 2015, 02:05:57 PM
Funny the only thing I found sexy was the steering column and wheel - tres chic  ;) by the way Bob how did you download those pics I couldn't - I would like the 3 Avolettes as wallpaper for a bit

What you mean this one?
Title: Re: French microcars blog
Post by: plas man on February 01, 2015, 03:27:53 PM
Thanks for that Richard. One would think that a bracket and a universal joint would be much cheaper than a custom bent tube with a teleflex style cable snuggly fitted inside wouldnt you.
Here is the Tourette steering, it has a Standard 10 steering box with some ungainly linkages. I had a chance to play around with both Jeans car and Wayne Lee's and although the set up looks a mess delivers fairly slop free movement.

arn't you the lucky one - a Standard 10 steering box rocking - like rocking horse poo , not like the Bond 875 with a Standard 8 box - a left hand drive one !!! now they are like steam of rocking horse poo  :D
Title: Re: French microcars blog
Post by: richard on February 01, 2015, 05:23:49 PM
thanks for the help Bob , unfortunately by the time the picture reaches my background it is pretty badly out of focus . I shall still use it for a while   :)
Title: Re: French microcars blog
Post by: richard on February 01, 2015, 05:39:28 PM
October 1955 Paris Show - Egon Bruetsch's Zwerg
Title: Re: French microcars blog
Post by: DaveMiller on February 01, 2015, 07:47:47 PM
thanks for the help Bob , unfortunately by the time the picture reaches my background it is pretty badly out of focus .

Try here (not brill, but a bit better):

http://a136.idata.over-blog.com/500x280/0/15/83/56/avolette/Avolette.jpg
Title: Re: French microcars blog
Post by: richard on February 01, 2015, 08:15:15 PM
afraid not , I am beyond help  :) if I use that Dave I get a clearer pic yes but its a small square not the full screen  :'(  no probs
Title: Re: French microcars blog
Post by: Rusty Chrome (Malcolm Parker) on February 02, 2015, 12:49:54 AM
Try this one Richard
Title: Re: French microcars blog
Post by: DaveMiller on February 02, 2015, 06:48:57 AM
Try this one Richard

Wow. Our resident info-sleuth strikes again!   :)
Title: Re: French microcars blog
Post by: Bob Purton on February 02, 2015, 09:32:47 AM
Oooo yes, I'm going to do some wallpapering as well!
Title: Re: French microcars blog
Post by: Barry on February 02, 2015, 09:44:30 AM
http://pixgood.com/1960s-wallpaper.html

On Trend?
Title: Re: French microcars blog
Post by: richard on February 02, 2015, 11:01:47 AM
On I phone it looks great Malcolm thanks so much ! Will get the table and paste out later . Next job for you will be to take any picture of a Gordon and make that look great  ;D thanks again it's my new desktop and I also cropped the odd Frenchman off - sorry Monsieur  ;)
Title: Re: French microcars blog
Post by: Avolette on February 17, 2015, 10:42:17 AM
Hello Everybody,

And thanks for your comments on my blog. And thanks to Bob Purton for mentionning my work on the blog.
  For some month i couldn't write articles because i had less time to spend in the workshop and more in the nursery.....as i am a father now ! That explains why there was a lot of advertisement on the blog : with no activity during 45 days, overblog put more and more advertisement. But now, things are "better" : i can sleep during nights and the little girl is more independant.....So, i am back in the workshop and i have new things to tell !

Over blog has a new interface, and i made all necessary to discard advertisement. I think everything is ok now, and i am sorry if people had trouble on my blog with their computer.
I still come to see what is happening on this forum, which i really like to read. Thanks to all the rumcars members to share their microcars enthusiasm here.
Donald
Title: Re: French microcars blog
Post by: Rusty Chrome (Malcolm Parker) on February 17, 2015, 11:15:04 AM
Thanks for providing us with an opportunity to see so much interesting material.
Title: Re: French microcars blog
Post by: Bob Purton on February 17, 2015, 12:50:47 PM
Hay Donald. Good to hear from you and congratulations on becoming a father!
I look forward to reading more interesting stuff on your blog. As you know, yours and my taste in microcars is the same!
Title: Re: French microcars blog
Post by: richard on February 17, 2015, 01:05:23 PM
I too love the Avolette and the blog - what I don't like is the bald tyres on your red Avolette - is that high tyre pressure that has done that ? You see I do pay attention as this picture is my background on the laptop  :)
Title: Re: French microcars blog
Post by: Avolette on February 17, 2015, 04:46:13 PM
He He the....The  red avolette doesn't belong to me, i find it's bad too Richard ! The friend who owns it really drive a lot with it :-)
Title: Re: French microcars blog
Post by: richard on February 17, 2015, 05:23:55 PM
But that lovely car and no tread at all left in the centre of the front tyres wow . Perhaps if he now reduces the air pressure a lot he will only be driving on the edge of the tyres  ;D
Title: Re: French microcars blog
Post by: Bob Purton on February 17, 2015, 06:09:21 PM
Good to hear its driven a lot though.
Title: Re: French microcars blog
Post by: richard on February 21, 2015, 10:09:22 PM
I posted a recent photograph of the Bruetsch Zwerg , I had always thought it had an odd incorrect headlamp - very un-Bruetsch but in fact it seems correct and original (bottom right)