RUMCars Forum
General Category => Sales & Auctions => Topic started by: Ollie on April 27, 2011, 12:07:16 AM
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Hello All,
I have 2 holes in my side panel which are driving me mad in my kr200 were a messerschmitt ashtray was screwed in in the past..now missing!!.
I'm looking to find another one to cover these holes and keep it looking original :) ..Anyone have one for sale ?
Kind regards
Ollie
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hello ollie you asked for an ashtray - i offerred you one ! what you should have posted was I WANT A CHEAP MESSERSCHMITT ASHTRAY
you didnt even reply to me - not impressed
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As opposed to "wanted - expensive KR ashtray"
hehe
wanted ads always make me smile
here's one or two,
wanted - brutsch mopetta - will px cash and '93 rialto for right car
peel wanted - must be low mileage (yeah i know no speedo) fmdsh and original unmessed condition throughout - above trade price paid
;D
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Think Andy Carter makes facsimiles.
Even the dark brown ashtrays are going to be about £60. White ones more, have paid £75 for a rare new one, though they are not normal correct for a Schmitt. You can tell by the mountings. Most were for VW/Porsche etc.
I love it when people put these on Roadsters. How to you get the ciggy to the ashtray with ash on it, Poseur? Ranks in the top twenty useless additions to a car. Topping place to keep fuses and small light bulbs though. I normally remove the ashtray as they are often fitted just where I want to put my arm/hand when driving. They just get in the way. Look far better in a cabinet polished up with most other Schmitt extras. Boot rack and wind deflectors are OK. Sun visor is a damn nuisance. Cocoa nut matting is good but no longer available.
Best source of ashtrays is a German autojumble otherwise you are paying a mark up to the finder for going to the autojumble I fear.
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Even the dark brown ashtrays are going to be about £60. White ones more, have paid £75 for a rare new one
That's nothing compared to the £85-£110 last time I was at mannheim! >:(
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my white one came out of a schmitt. sorry bob ;D but i wanted £100 for it - have seen them reach that on ebay. when i need the cash thats where it will be then and we will see
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hello ollie you asked for an ashtray - i offerred you one ! what you should have posted was I WANT A CHEAP MESSERSCHMITT ASHTRAY
you didnt even reply to me - not impressed
Well im very sorry for not responding sooner but i have been away in france.I have also been thinking about the offer but £100 is a little to steep for me to afford.
Very sorry about you being NOT IMPRESSED !
Ollie
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Hi Ollie
Both you and big Al seem a little out of touch with the prices - maybe 10 years ago you could have bought a Brown one from Mannhein for £50 but not any more a couple of years ago I saw a Cream one at mannheim for about £150 on the friday and it was sold when I went back to ask the guy for his name and address, Hang on to your good one Richard and put it on E-Bay you be surprised at the result - you have some Messerschmitt Owners in Japan and America that are not short of a few bob - I have not seen one on my trips around the Autojumbles in the UK and the one Richard has got came off one of my Messerschmitts - he was going to put it on his Breutsh.
Mike
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I'M not impressed Richard as that ash tray is rightfully mine having being plunder from my Messerschmitt. If you could send it on to me it would be appreciated!
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Hi Bob
I thought it was part of the spares that came with my 1955 KR 200 that came from Germany - were any fitted on UK car's??
Mike
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Hi MIke. I have no idea, I'm only pulling Richards leg anyway! :D :D :D MInd you it sounded like a confession to me!
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Hi Bob
Were they fitted to the UK cars or only to the German produced one, Big Al seems tp think that they were fitted to VW and Lloyd cars whick makes me think that they were German based - I have a UK ashtray not the same as the German one bakelite and cream in colour but not round but square £10 if anybody wants one. ( if I can find it !!!)
Mike
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I have had British registered cars with these ashtrays in. In most cases brown or black (actually very dark brown). I think they were available as a bona fida Messerschmitt extra. Interestingly they do differ slightly from the VW ones. There is no reason they cannot be fitted as a period accessory to any car of the era but at the price it would seem unlikely now. That the price has risen is no surprise and I am warmed but not bothered as I am neither buying nor selling but have made a good investment. What it does suggest is my choice of not going to Mannheim is justified as the prices are now to high for me. I do not doubt profit may be made from buying these things when under the going rate but the margin as a percentage is poor on cash invested and the costs of attending only increase. There is better business to be had. However if you have a shopping list of things to get, possibly an order or two from Hieko and Oliver H or something, then it is a trip worth making to purchase as a collector/enthusiast. The days of my, and others, vacuuming up parts cheap are gone. The old hands will probably find enough stuff to re sale to get their costs back for attending. That is the benefit of experience and good luck to them I say. This is where a lot of the eBay rare bits come from so like I say, you are kind of left having to buy at the price or go without unless you are prepared to do the legwork yourself.
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it was a confession bob but i made the decision to plunder way before you came into the picture :-[ yes the idea has been to fit it in the Bruetsch. same era.
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I have had British registered cars with these ashtrays in. In most cases brown or black (actually very dark brown). I think they were available as a bona fida Messerschmitt extra. Interestingly they do differ slightly from the VW ones. There is no reason they cannot be fitted as a period accessory to any car of the era but at the price it would seem unlikely now. That the price has risen is no surprise and I am warmed but not bothered as I am neither buying nor selling but have made a good investment. What it does suggest is my choice of not going to Mannheim is justified as the prices are now to high for me. I do not doubt profit may be made from buying these things when under the going rate but the margin as a percentage is poor on cash invested and the costs of attending only increase. There is better business to be had. However if you have a shopping list of things to get, possibly an order or two from Hieko and Oliver H or something, then it is a trip worth making to purchase as a collector/enthusiast. The days of my, and others, vacuuming up parts cheap are gone. The old hands will probably find enough stuff to re sale to get their costs back for attending. That is the benefit of experience and good luck to them I say. This is where a lot of the eBay rare bits come from so like I say, you are kind of left having to buy at the price or go without unless you are prepared to do the legwork yourself.
Nothing is cheap anymore. Ebay has seen to that.
You want you pay. But you first have to have the option and luck to be given the choice to acquire. Dither and you may be usurped...
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All is fair Dicky, I bought the car based on what I saw so fear not. Did you swipe the bird badge too?
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Just spotted these ivory bakelite ashtrays, original Happich No. 5505001 and at 99 euros each being sold by an Isetta parts dealer. Any good for Schmitts? See pic
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they look perfect to me ! everything will be remade soon - far east i expect but very nice and cleaner than miine, though i suspect its never been used .
not me guv the car never had the emblem bob.
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Just what every Schmitt owner needs for when his engine seizes up. All that is needed now is a packet of Capstans or Players to complete your none PC identity. Funny how the world changes. I wonder if Darleks use these instead of some of their bumps. Handy when you nip off for a fag after some serious exterminating and at 99 Euros, a snip.
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All this talk of period ashtrays, but I wonder how many of you actually smoke? Isn't smoking in an enclosed space more harmful then regular smoking!
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I know smoking is madness and un PC but if you have a footprint of an ash tray on your side panel and a couple of screw holes its the only thing to fit plus handy to keep your Dartford crossing money in!
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All this talk of period ashtrays, but I wonder how many of you actually smoke? Isn't smoking in an enclosed space more harmful then regular smoking!
Well, its better than farting in a Peel Trident! Only hole is the right "hand indicator hole" ! ;D
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Beans, beans, good for your heart
The more you eat the more you fart
The more you fart the better you feel
So please eat beans when driving your Peel.
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Beans, beans, good for your heart
The more you eat the more you fart
The more you fart the better you feel
So please eat beans when driving your Peel.
;D ;D ;D
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All this talk of period ashtrays, but I wonder how many of you actually smoke? Isn't smoking in an enclosed space more harmful then regular smoking!
You ask this of two stroke fans? Personally I am into blowing asbestos dust round with a compressor in my spare time!
All these dangers are made more visible and you are made to feel guilty about it. Pity it does not run to food additives, dodgy petrol additives and a host of other things which were not as prevalent as when I had a gasper behind the bike shed as a kid. A strange world we live in with stranger values!
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I know smoking is madness and un PC but if you have a footprint of an ash tray on your side panel and a couple of screw holes its the only thing to fit plus handy to keep your Dartford crossing money in!
Well soon you will have the option of the Bonko Auto Toilet Roll dispenser which will be more useful when the Dartford crossing insists on only paper money! I like the option off one interior set I have with these two holes which simply resolved the situation by marking one hole in Biro as in and the other out. Brilliant!
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Ashtray now on german ebay
http://cgi.ebay.de/Messerschmitt-VW-Bretzel-Kugelaschenbecher-/250820008607?pt=Autoteile_Zubeh%C3%B6r&hash=item3a66099a9f
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All this talk of period ashtrays, but I wonder how many of you actually smoke? Isn't smoking in an enclosed space more harmful then regular smoking!
You ask this of two stroke fans? Personally I am into blowing asbestos dust round with a compressor in my spare time!
All these dangers are made more visible and you are made to feel guilty about it. Pity it does not run to food additives, dodgy petrol additives and a host of other things which were not as prevalent as when I had a gasper behind the bike shed as a kid. A strange world we live in with stranger values!
What's a gasper? Do you mean a cheeky B&H?
As for venting in a Trident that's the least of your worries. Being squashed by some mindless bint in her X6 or Q7 springs to mind.
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I think a gasper is traditionally a none filter cigarette but in principle yes. Hated smoking but if its banned you have to do it. I had a suitably adapted packet of Polos made in the back of the woodwork room to hide the single contraband and never got caught like most who's most imaginative move was the common hollow pen.
Q7, driven as erratically as Spike Milligan's sketch show but with less humour.
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which micros are safe to be driven casually by one hand anyway ? and which smooth ride would ensure you didnt have a lapful of ash with all that shaking going on ? explains why so few micros had radios too as again not really suitable . they're just accessories