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General Category => Sales & Auctions => Topic started by: Daniel Rodd on August 10, 2010, 11:41:42 PM
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Hi all,im having to sell my Bond due to financial problems, :( if anyone is interested its here:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160467002747&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT
will take less to a forum member if genuinely interested.
Dan
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/bond-875cc-rare-3-wheeler-/320573982797?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item4aa3b2c84d
another one's on but a Mk1
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Ah, he is back. I know for a flat pack Nutshell if it is still there. Done the Bond 875 thing, great fun and the only Bond not to wear the front tyre out fast as it spent half its time in the air.
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cant keep me away lol,i dont want to upset anyone or wind anyone up,just enjoy a common interest :)
i fulfilled my ambition of owning an 875,sadly i lost my job 2 weeks after getting it home,so its not viable for me to keep it.
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Bad luck on loosing your job, and hope you get a good price.
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cant keep me away lol,i dont want to upset anyone or wind anyone up,just enjoy a common interest :)
i fulfilled my ambition of owning an 875,sadly i lost my job 2 weeks after getting it home,so its not viable for me to keep it.
You were kicked out for owning a Bond 875? That is marquism! Call for Stan to raise the Bonders and get flying pickets outside the gates. Bond 875s have rights.
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dont wish to drag names through mud,but having seen the 875 on ebay,stan wrote a rather nasty and childish email to me about it,mainly reliant hatrid and should i cancel your membership kind of thing.id had a cup of tea with him at his house 2 weeks prior as well.
thing is,hes now lost 5 bonds that could have been new members for his club and to add to the records,as i have a friend with three,another friend with an 875,and the new owner of my 875,a friend off the Reliant forum,none of which wish to join the club having heard about it.is a shame because i was fully planning to get a minicar or similar once im working again,as i had thought the Bond community were a friendly,enthusiastic bunch,but its put me off a bit
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Stan takes after the Minicar. A one off and there is no one quite the same. He does tend to rub folk up the wrong way but it should not put folk off Bonding. Not my thing but they are wonderfully eccentric and it minimal cost too.
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I think the club would all fall apart without him but yes, your experience is by no means unique. A pal of mine emigrated to France and took his Bond with him only to be kicked out for "exporting a Bond"! ::) He was reprieved later but his Bond Info mag arrives now with the car advert page snipped out.
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oh and bob,many thanks for letting me have Adrian polleys email,even though it didnt work out during the buying and working on process he was an absolute diamond in helping me out,giving me info and providing enthusiasm,thats the sort of people we could do with more of i think :)
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I think the club would all fall apart without him but yes, your experience is by no means unique. A pal of mine emigrated to France and took his Bond with him only to be kicked out for "exporting a Bond"! ::) He was reprieved later but his Bond Info mag arrives now with the car advert page snipped out.
Note to myself. DO NOT GET A BOND. yet another club where the lunatics have taken over the asylum.
Answer to myself. Wouldn't get one anyway 1, I have enough junk. 2, They're hideous! don't mind the Bug but one wheel at the front makes spirited driving too dodgy in extremis. Mind you standard Bonds are pretty good value.
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Note to myself. DO NOT GET A BOND. yet another club where the lunatics have taken over the asylum.
I always thought that was the point of buying and owning a Microcar and joining the appropriate club. That will be where I am going wrong then. I cannot take these cars seriously and I like the eccentricity of the owners. I can forgive enofficient eccentric club officials but I cannot the serious but useless ones. I love it, cut out the ads page for foriegn Johhny's. We could with someone like Stan in the Government!
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Don't get me wrong Al I belong to RUM, MOC, MEC and Scootabout.
Should I ever acquire a Bond then yes I would join. It's a bit heavy though if pages are torn out of the mag though! But I do like the mentalists in the scene. I'm one of them!
Anyway loved Mr Towns piece on the disabled options for a KR is the MEC's latest mag. But what if you have no arms, legs or ears?! Wonder if FMR could sort out a central tiller system?! ooh err missus !!!!!!
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But what if you have no arms, legs or ears?!
FMR had the solution. Ride on the boot rack, the engine noise would not be a problem! If you are feeling wreckless you could have a go on the ski rack.
Seriously though I am convinced I have seen three of these converted cars and in one case the car was slagged off so badly the guy returned to Ireland never to be heard from again. Another was found derelict in Didcot and the last features in a book I have. These all featured 175 style steering columns in a KR200 with modified controls. Two were painted orange, the other a two tone but as the pics are monotone the colours are unknown. I think this whole area has been ignored and the stigma of being a type of invalid carrage probably puts some 'Schmitters into denial mode.
I own the seat and part of the control set for a dwarf convertion set for a Trojan. Again a little publicised option offered and supplied by Trojan.
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I suppose 99.9999999999% of invalid KR's were sold in the fatherland. How many came here? 5? 6?
I'd like to pore over one though. See how the teleflex/bracketry is done etc. I bet the job was executed in typical teutonic perfection. Easy to do as all cable controls.
I wonder if lord cyphus knows about any? care to comment whilst on your sojourn?
I think mr boyd has an ex invalid scootacar. Whilst not as refined I think a Scoot is probably a better bet. Easier to get into for a disabled person. No legs and a KR is a bit difficult. Opening the door and getting out!
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Even from 6,000 miles hence, you can't keep me away from a bit of conveyance discussion. The main thing to remember with conversions on "odd" cars such as Messerschmitt's is that there are many disablitys which can stop you walking any distance but which can still leave you with enough use of the legs to be able to get into, & operate foot controls, in the normal way. Trouble is, this ability to get into a car such as a Messerschmitt might indeed mean you do not QUITE qulify for a Ministry conveyance, hence why they bought a Messerschmitt, Scootacar or Trojan. Before anyone starts on about "why didn't they then get a normal car?", remember also the tax advantages etc that bubblecars had over normal cars, not to mention their ease of manoverability & fitting into gaps etc. This I would say is why there are several disabled conversions on bubblecars.
Sounds like an intresting edition of Take Off awaits me when I get home.....
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Yes Take Off continues to be an above average publication. I had wondered about an Invalid Carrage version called Hop Off, a Bubblecar version called Pop Off and a step in the right direction might be caused by a Bond Bug version! In homage to Ronnie Barker there.
What is required is to find an intact Schmitt addapted car or an ex owner to find out more. I fear like original 1957 standard cars they have all been altered to the Club approved spec which pretty much did not exist! Hey ho.
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come on al you missed Peel Off and Scoot Off, watch this space for more i guess ;)
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Nob Off! Oh sorry punctuation error there, Richard. Restauration, I like the concept. It is a cheap eatery where yesterday's Michelin star dishes are rebuilt and served to the enthusiast.
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cheap eateries - always worry i will get the schmitts :D
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It can happen! Is this why the Messerschmitt is shaped as the worlds largest suppository?
Should a group of us go on the Dragon's Den to remake the Bond 875? Nice quacker engine in the back. Gets round the congestion charge by being a two wheeler.
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i think if dragons den existed in the 60s they would have rejected the 875 when it was new!
been hearing some very interesting info of a friend of mine who was a bike mechanic in the 60s,most of his mates had an 875,all of them ended up rolling them,most suffered with tank slappers on the front end,and that the real reason why Bond went down the pan(ie had no money)was because of the amount of law suits being brought against them by people and their families of people who were killed in them etc due to their dangerous handling.
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i think if dragons den existed in the 60s they would have rejected the 875 when it was new!
been hearing some very interesting info of a friend of mine who was a bike mechanic in the 60s,most of his mates had an 875,all of them ended up rolling them,most suffered with tank slappers on the front end,and that the real reason why Bond went down the pan(ie had no money)was because of the amount of law suits being brought against them by people and their families of people who were killed in them etc due to their dangerous handling.
let's be honest here. one wheel at front is not condusive to old age..! my friend has 2 invacars and 1 robin and 2 regals.
they are evil! tank into a bend and it's game over. a la clarkson.
ok for old boys in the 70's (and in their 70's!) with oversized ears, mottled red nose, oil'd down hair, crisp pressed beige slacks and smelling of wee who do 10mph round a bend but no good for a 17 year old who wants to show the world what a tasty driver he is!
ahh those were the days! when british crap was bought with pride.
I used to live pretty much next to a reliant dealer (warwick double) in ilford in the 70's and used to note the yob mechanics ragging the arse out of sweaty regals and robins round the block for whatever test reason!
left me with no desire to own one!!
hatefull things but strangely endearing! I'd like to park one outside montecarlo casino next to the veyrons and lambos!
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i love my Reliants,thats why ive had 20,they handle very well IF you know how to drive them,great fun sliding them round wet roundabouts.Alloys on the back helps a tremendous amount,as it widens the rear track.the key is slow in fast out
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i love my Reliants,thats why ive had 20,they handle very well IF you know how to drive them,great fun sliding them round wet roundabouts.Alloys on the back helps a tremendous amount,as it widens the rear track.the key is slow in fast out
Indeed. Slow in .i.e. 15MPH. Then round the entire apex at 15MPH. Then when the road straightens out after say 20 yards nail the gas. Getting the arse out in the wet may be fun untill it goes horribly wrong and you're upside down.
Consign them as a charming mistake of an oddity.
Awful things.
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what you on about,i rarely go below 30 on most bends,ive never even lifted a wheel,you must be doing it wrong ;D
or did you watch top gear and actually believe that it was a standard car that they hadnt rigged with odd sized wheels because a certain tall chap couldnt roll it on que with the standard 10" wheels on? ;)
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I'm with Dan, I had them in my teens, my dad drove them all his life and no, he didn't have enormous ears or a nose that looked like a strawberry! Neither of us got anywhere near to lifting a wheel. Tell us more about this special wheel they used Dan.
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they fitted a 14" wheel to the front,a 12"on the passenger side and the standad 10" on the drivers side,thus once that massive front wheel was turned it would roll over on command.the "wheelie" was done with a huge water barrel in the boot
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I too cannot really get on with one wheel at the front. When I tried using a Bond Bug the thing was pretty much undrivable fast after getting out of a Messerschmitt. I was for ever on two wheels. It was point and squirt whereas the Schmitt was about momentum and smoothness. The only reason that Reliants and Bugs are fast is because they are overpowered to gain the acceleration needed to keep up a good A to B speed. The Roly engine is a delight. I accept there is a challenge here to drive them and gain the best performance available just as there is with a 'Schmitt. However I prefer the style of the 'Schmitt which is the same required for the Saab Bullnose which ended up as a successfull rally car. I find this style gives me more satisfaction. To put against drifting a Roly I would put three wheel drifting a Schmitt round mini roundabouts keeping the power on but scrubbing off enough speed to exit correctly. Now that is a skill that courts disaster but when you have it it is an absolute blast, especially round the Magic Roundabout in Swindon so as to 'overtake' cars that passed you on the way in by using a different route over the various roundabouts that make up the whole complex. They really do not like it!
If Rolys and their chums were really dangerous they would not have been sold in the numbers they were. It comes back to what I was told when I learned to drive. Drive to the conditions prevailing. This seems to have been forgotten these days but in the '70's when you could only afford a '50's/60's banger it is very much appropriate. If you think a Roly is dangerous try a miss aligned sidecar outfit! Of course these days it is not the responsibility of the driver to make allowences for the vehicle which is assumed to always work perfectly in any conditions and an accident is never the drivers fault but down to some outside influence.
As to Top Gear the fact they have to script and fake so much really does undermine anything they come out with as you do not know what is real and what is false. Much of the driving is not done by them etc etc. It is the nearest our TV gets to Hollywood, more like Cricklewood! Yet as with soaps half the country seems to think it is real. Very worrying when you realise these same people can vote, drive and hold responsible positions in charge of dangerous situations. It also insults the car enthusiast as this is promoted as a programme for petrol heads. Well it is in the way the Sunday Sport is a newspaper.
Ultimately nigh on any TV showing of Microcars is a disappointment so it is almost worth not having them on TV unless we were to do our own presentation.
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they fitted a 14" wheel to the front,a 12"on the passenger side and the standad 10" on the drivers side,thus once that massive front wheel was turned it would roll over on command.the "wheelie" was done with a huge water barrel in the boot
I haven't been watching TG because I can't bare the awful scripting, but wouldn't mind seeing the aforementioned article, is there a clip anywhere?
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episode 1 of series 15,still on bbc i player.
it was meant to be a long piece on three wheelers,isetta,morgan and reliant were to be featured.in the end it was just a piec on how often clarkson could roll as specially rigged Robin.
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episode 1 of series 15,still on bbc i player.
it was meant to be a long piece on three wheelers,isetta,morgan and reliant were to be featured.in the end it was just a piec on how often clarkson could roll as specially rigged Robin.
I expect the Isetta and Morgan owners, having been envolved before, refused to play the game. As I predicted the Reliant Owners were made to look like Northern Numbties to fit the scripts steriotypical approach to an item that could have been an interesting and learning experience. All we really learned is that ignorance is to be promoted as entertainement as if the idea was to have rolling Reliants I could think of some far more interesting situations to do it. TG is becomming rather lazy in its scripting and I think its sell by date approaches. Interesting to see if they realise and react or continue to churn out stuff and collect the money.
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I used to be an avid fan of TG but after their presenters split, it all went down hill. 5th Gear has the better format, though I wish I could find the episode of TG that slated the P50 as the un-coolest car ever made, as they really are a bunch of puppets who will say anything if they're told to..
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Have you heard of the great Clarkson scam.
It is said that three influential motoring journalists hatched a plan to create the ultimate characterture (sorry cannot spell that one) of the bad Motoring Journalist. They hired an actor to play him and called him Jeremy Clarkson. However it was an invention that quickly ran out of control as it struck a nerve with the public. The actor realised he was onto the gravy train and we see the results today. Truth or fiction? Find some early Clarkson before he was on telly and see.