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Title: LLoyd
Post by: Peelpower on March 14, 2008, 12:37:46 AM
There is for sale a nice LLoyd on ebay. Buy it now is very low.

http://cgi.ebay.de/Lloyd-LP250-kein-Isetta-Goggo-Messerschmitt-Heinkel_W0QQitemZ280207895287QQihZ018QQcategoryZ29750QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Title: Re: LLoyd
Post by: inacoma on March 14, 2008, 07:35:02 AM
WOW!!!!!!!!!!

Looks like a bargain.

The bodywork must have cost more than the price for the car :o

Shame it's not in U.K.

I don't think it will be for sale for long before it finds a buyer.

John
Title: Re: LLoyd
Post by: Peelpower on March 14, 2008, 09:03:59 AM
WOW!!!!!!!!!!

Looks like a bargain.

The bodywork must have cost more than the price for the car :o

Shame it's not in U.K.

I don't think it will be for sale for long before it finds a buyer.

John

John the problem is, the Lloyd is not so sought after in Germany. Its a bit to big for a micro car, and that makes it cheap.
Same vendor sold a Trident last year.
Title: Re: LLoyd
Post by: inacoma on March 14, 2008, 09:10:44 AM
Hi

Do you know what the Trident went for?

It is so rare a Peel is sold on open market, you never get to know the real price achieved

That LLoyd looks such good value, it's a shame they are uderated.

John
Title: Re: LLoyd
Post by: Peelpower on March 14, 2008, 09:31:16 AM
Don't know how much it went for, but i know it was sold to the UK. One of our RUM car forum Members is the new owner though.
Ferdi
Title: Re: LLoyd
Post by: inacoma on March 14, 2008, 09:56:54 AM
Cheers Ferdi

Will we get to see the car at any meetings?

John
Title: Re: LLoyd
Post by: Peelpower on March 14, 2008, 10:25:10 AM
John, what car are you talking about? Peel or Lloyd?
If you mean the Trident, you can be sure the car will turn up this year on several events in the UK.
Ferdi

Ps. I want to bring my Peels to the dutch rally this year.
Have you ever been there? Its a real fantastic event.
Title: Re: LLoyd
Post by: inacoma on March 14, 2008, 10:53:43 AM
Hi ferdi

yes I meant the Peel.

it will be good to see it.

No I havn't been to the Dutch rally yet ?

Mayby next year

John

 :)
Title: Re: LLoyd
Post by: P50 on March 14, 2008, 01:14:12 PM
WOW!!!!!!!!!!

Looks like a bargain.

The bodywork must have cost more than the price for the car :o

Shame it's not in U.K.

I don't think it will be for sale for long befor it finds a buyer.

John

John the problem is, the Lloyd is not so sought after in Germany. Its a bit to big for a micro car, and that makes it cheap.
Same vendor sold a Trident last year.

Ferdi time flies.
 I bought the Trident two years ago this August....

Indeed it will appear at a show this year road fit. A genuine Peel is now almost impossible to aquire. Owners simpy do not want to sell them. It was fairly priced at the time with the strongish pound back then.

Now it would be an utter bargain such as how the entire classic car market has changed. I'd have to say that a Peel Trident or P50 is possibly one of the hardest machines on the planet to aquire. Mind you Scootacars are non existent these days.

However I suspect obscene amounts of filthy lucre would prise anything away from anyone... Everyone has a price!!    

Title: Re: LLoyd
Post by: Peelpower on March 14, 2008, 01:21:59 PM
Hi P50, how are you doing? Yes indeed time flies. I guess the Peels will stay in  the owners hands, and, as you mentioned, they are not for sale in a couple of years anymore. Everyone has his prize? I don't know. Whenever i was offered money for my microcars i said NO!
As long i don't get in financial trouble, i won't change my mind.
All the best
Cheers Ferdi
Title: Re: LLoyd
Post by: P50 on March 15, 2008, 08:05:07 AM
I'm doing wel thanks Ferdi!

I bought the last genuine Trident thats come up for sale. Two years.   Will another be available in this decade?!  Selling is not the problem. It's replacement if you decided you want another! 

Maybe one day an unknown Trident or P50 will be listed on Ebay out of the blue. That will be some auction!  What a stir it would cause.  Are there any left 'off the radar'?

I think there is maybe 2 or 3 tucked away in garages or sheds.  You tend to find they were actually on your own doorstep when they appear.  That is very annoying!

Perry     
Title: Re: LLoyd
Post by: Bob Purton on March 15, 2008, 12:37:01 PM
Talking of on the door step, do either of you guys know who bought the yellow P50 that was sold a couple of years ago from the great county of Essex? The car was often seen at the Enfield pagent and other local doos often accompanied by an Isetta done out of the same paint pot.
Title: Re: LLoyd
Post by: Peelpower on March 15, 2008, 12:54:53 PM
Is this your car Perry, bobbybubble is talking about? As far as i can remember there was another yellow P50. The owner was Eugene Chong i reckon, but the car now is abroad.
My first P50 i used to own, D542 was first coated in yellow as well.

Anyway, nice wether outside now. I guess i go for  a ride in my tiger now. Haven't done this for a long time.

Ferdi
Title: Re: LLoyd
Post by: g-o-g-g-o on March 15, 2008, 05:12:25 PM
you are going back in time Ferdi, Eugene Chong first came to my house in 1975 to buy my Trojan which I had restored and it was for sale at £120 taxed and MOT'd (those were the days) he did not buy it straight away and he went away for the weekend to think about it, meanwhile the local Vicar wanted a car for his wife and I took his wife for a test drive and he bought it.
  Eugene came back to me on the Monday or Tuesday, to buy the car but I had to tell him it was sold - he asked me to keep a look out for one for him, and we became freinds. subsequently he bought other cars the Peel P50 a Scootercar Mk 1 and a Messerschmitt (he had taste) and eventually bought a Trojan.
  He was a Dentist with a practice in Streatham ans he lived in Dulwich - he also had a Ferrari 246 as his normal car - we swapped bits over the years and when he finally retired he moved back to his home country. He sold off all his cars exept for the Peel P50 which was his favouite and he took it home with him - this was at the end of the 80's he invited me to empty his garage (for free) and I waved him goodby - we have not been in communiation since and I imagine his car is still with him.
Title: Re: LLoyd
Post by: P50 on March 15, 2008, 06:48:11 PM
Talking of on the door step, do either of you guys know who bought the yellow P50 that was sold a couple of years ago from the great county of Essex? The car was often seen at the Enfield pagent and other local doos often accompanied by an Isetta done out of the same paint pot.

How odd?!!!! We're talking about both my Peels.

Yep JMG678B is my P50. I too saw it at the Pageant over the years. Chap called Chisolm owned it. Christchurch in Cambridge is where he lived. He would not sell for love nor money. I recall in the late 90's chatting to him and he mentioned he found a NOS tyre on a wheel on a stall at Enfield. He was blown away when I told him that particular fact when I was doing the deal...  He bought it off his mate for a 30 quid in the late 60's! It sat for 40 years in a tyre shed as he had a haulidge business.

My P50's a bit tired and appears to have been used heavily prior to being laid up. Then the engine nipped up at Peels to Peel and it's sat since. I think the absolute most you could hope for in '08 is a Peel with its original body,chassis tag,engine with 80416 tag and registration as issued in 60's. These are now old meddled with cars and had such minor value a few years after new.

I think Eugene's P50 is the sister car to Gordons. Although mine, Gordons and Hansons Manx P50 (reg P50MAN) are all back to back chassis number wise. They were all at Peel at the big meet. I think Eugenes car is in Sydney and he still has it.   Wonder what his chassis number is? Andy would know.

Perry
Title: Re: LLoyd
Post by: Bob Purton on March 15, 2008, 07:37:48 PM
Thats interesting Perry. I only ever met the owners mate from Essex who painted it for him in the yellow. I think the Isetta belonged to him and he was allowed to borrow the P50 to accompany his isetta at the shows. I asked a few times if it was for sale but always went away with a flea in my ear! I keep my schmitt at a custom car storage facility now and strangley , when I took it up there the owner mentioned the said Peel and wondered where it had got to. Perry, you must start taking it to a few local shows and keep up with the tradition! Im glad it has stayed local anyway. Look forward to seeing it again. 
Title: Re: LLoyd
Post by: Peelpower on March 15, 2008, 08:08:38 PM
Whilst im looking into my old Peel register, i can say E. Chong's Peel is NO. 533
Number plate7037 VU Not 100% sure its up to date, because i collected the details in the year 1991
I also own an old picture showing the Peel and Mr. Chong.

Ferdi
Title: Re: LLoyd
Post by: P50 on March 16, 2008, 08:26:12 AM
Thats interesting Perry. I only ever met the owners mate from Essex who painted it for him in the yellow.

Painted it yellow?  What with an old underseal brush?!  It's an utterly appaling paint job.  The bloke who did it in my opinion is not fit to paint rusty Sierras...

However it will return to greatness and will be road fit.  I used to like yellow but have gone off it of late.  I think two stokes may have painted it yellow to shift it. I'm unsure if the works despatched yellow P50's.   Brochures exist with yellow and green added as an optional colour.  It may have been white. Who knows?

Anyway the front spring mount on the tub's never been off. The colour under there will prove its hue.  Either way I'm going to have it in white I think.

And yes I intend to show it when it's a runner and restored.  (but I think the Trident will always usurp a P50 for the WOW factor)
Title: Re: LLoyd
Post by: inacoma on March 16, 2008, 08:44:19 AM
Hi

Back to the Lloyds

There are a lot of lloyd pictures for the unusual models for sale here. Big money though :-

http://cgi.ebay.com/1958-Lloyd-Pickup-Truck-Factory-Photo-Microcar_W0QQitemZ320227163471QQihZ011QQcategoryZ13582QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

John

Title: Re: LLoyd
Post by: inacoma on March 16, 2008, 09:15:31 AM
Hi

tried to upload a picture but getting this message :-

The upload folder is full. Please try a smaller file and/or contact an administrator

Do we need to delete something ?

John
Title: Re: LLoyd
Post by: Bob Purton on March 16, 2008, 12:27:10 PM
Hi John. I have already spoken to Darren about the problem, he says he has to buy some more space and it will be resolved in due course. This all emphasises how badly we need our administrator or a trained replacement. I was hoping Darren might reconsider and stay.
Title: Re: LLoyd
Post by: blob on March 16, 2008, 01:39:30 PM
I think it's ok if you post pictures useing the rumcars photobucket site John.
Title: Re: LLoyd
Post by: inacoma on March 16, 2008, 02:39:56 PM
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Title: Re: LLoyd
Post by: blob on March 16, 2008, 02:50:34 PM
John go to photobucket.com, username: rumcars  Pass: rumcars load your images, then copy and paste IMG Code into forum text and hey presto! Images on the forum. Make sure you log out of photobucket afterwards though so others can log in.
Title: Re: LLoyd
Post by: Dan Rodd on March 17, 2008, 02:07:10 PM
Hey Perry,

Any progress on the soft top?i have just found an A7 catalogue from the people i used to get my bits from,i also got a few bits off them at Beaulieu a couple of yrs ago.

I wonder if there is a list of Peels that we know for a fact have been scrapped?we could then remove them from the list of possible cars still out there.remember how many years went by with only 2 Allard Clippers known to exist,then one came out of nowhere?
Must be some more Peels out there,in an ideal world some young girl will come up to you while you park your bigger micro,and say something like"oh,are you interested in little cars?,my grandma has got a little 3 wheeler that my grandad bought 35 yrs ago but he died shortly afterwards and she couldnt bear to part with it,now shes moving to a smaller bungalow we need to get rid of it,its got one headlamp and is blue,are you interested?"

LOL LOL LOL ;D
Title: Re: LLoyd
Post by: Stuart Cyphus on March 17, 2008, 02:17:35 PM
in an ideal world some young girl will come up to you while you park your bigger micro,and say something like"oh,are you interested in little cars?,my grandma has got a little 3 wheeler that my grandad bought 35 yrs ago but he died shortly afterwards and she couldnt bear to part with it,now shes moving to a smaller bungalow we need to get rid of it,its got one headlamp and is blue,are you interested?"

 ....and when you finally lever the door of the garage open, you find the little blue three-wheeler with a single headlight is actully a Mk 1 Tippen Delta....   :o   Don't forget my phone number though, when it comes to pass.  ;)
Title: Re: LLoyd
Post by: Peelpower on March 17, 2008, 03:24:47 PM
in an ideal world some young girl will come up to you while you park your bigger micro,and say something like"oh,are you interested in little cars?,my grandma has got a little 3 wheeler that my grandad bought 35 yrs ago but he died shortly afterwards and she couldnt bear to part with it,now shes moving to a smaller bungalow we need to get rid of it,its got one headlamp and is blue,are you interested?"

 ....and when you finally lever the door of the garage open, you find the little blue three-wheeler with a single headlight is actully a Mk 1 Tippen Delta....
:o Don't forget my phone number though, when it comes to pass. ;)

It also could be a Peel P50 (single headlight/blue), Stuart. Best you go an dial my phone number! ;D ;D
Title: Re: LLoyd
Post by: Stuart Cyphus on March 17, 2008, 03:39:09 PM
Fair's fair Ferdi, you've got one already, I'm bagging this one!  ;)

 (I say young girl, do you mind moving out the way, I can't see the car!)
Title: Re: LLoyd
Post by: P50 on March 17, 2008, 07:13:49 PM
Hey Perry,

Any progress on the soft top?i have just found an A7 catalogue from the people i used to get my bits from,i also got a few bits off them at Beaulieu a couple of yrs ago.

I wonder if there is a list of Peels that we know for a fact have been scrapped?we could then remove them from the list of possible cars still out there.remember how many years went by with only 2 Allard Clippers known to exist,then one came out of nowhere?
Must be some more Peels out there,in an ideal world some young girl will come up to you while you park your bigger micro,and say something like"oh,are you interested in little cars?,my grandma has got a little 3 wheeler that my grandad bought 35 yrs ago but he died shortly afterwards and she couldnt bear to part with it,now shes moving to a smaller bungalow we need to get rid of it,its got one headlamp and is blue,are you interested?"

LOL LOL LOL ;D

Good evening dear boy,

Not done much with the Mk111. Have aquired a condenser which I aim to fit and clean the points thoroughly. Then get a coil if still no spark. I want it road fit over easter. With luck..

A list of Peels that have been scrapped would promptly incur the building of a gaggle Peels that have been scrapped!!  Personally I wouldn't be upset if I parked my Trident on a high steet and some old boy said he has an electric four wheeled version of that he bought in '68 in his back garden....     Take it away for a tenner!!
Title: Re: LLoyd
Post by: blob on March 17, 2008, 08:18:29 PM
Don't worry, in a few years these will be littering eBay. http://www.youtube.com/user/bethanne2187


Title: Re: LLoyd
Post by: Dan Rodd on March 17, 2008, 08:26:47 PM
i would give the points a really good clean,they will have furred up over the last few yrs.My Minor was totally dead after being stood for 6 months,cleaned the fur off the points and it was away.I cant remember replacing any ignition pars apart from the plugs,and the LT lead so everything else was working fine,of course anything could have happened to them since then!

I have fulfilled a long held ambition to own a proper Reliant van,and now have an unrestored 1974 750cc Robin van which i hope to go to some rallies and camp with.
Title: Re: LLoyd
Post by: inacoma on March 17, 2008, 09:00:32 PM
People will notice the difference.































































































You can't see through the wooden windows. ;D
Title: Re: Peel repro
Post by: Jim Janecek on March 17, 2008, 09:44:41 PM
where did they get the measurements for making the mould?

I wonder how "off" it will be?
Title: Re: LLoyd
Post by: P50 on March 17, 2008, 10:54:41 PM
This P50!! I'm scared and confused !! Frankenstein behaviour.

To be honest it will be interesting to witness the finished article....

I'll keep you posted Dan on how I get on with the Regal. I love it though. It's utterly bonkers!! (and sooo unmessed with. no skulduggery anywhere)