RUMCars Forum

General Category => RUMCar Mart => Topic started by: bubblenuts on July 26, 2011, 12:50:05 PM

Title: Nobel 200 dashboard
Post by: bubblenuts on July 26, 2011, 12:50:05 PM
anyone have a Nobel 200 dashboard for sale?
Title: Re: Nobel 200 dashboard
Post by: Jonathan Poll on July 26, 2011, 03:34:47 PM
Hi Bubblenuts,

  Is yours LHD, or RHD? They made left AND right in the UK.

I dont have any spare, but I was thinking of maybe making fibreglass ones, but it depends of the actuall interest, I know of someone else who wants one, but his car is LHD, and I can only make RHD ones. I know its not much work to convert as long as you have the dash, but that is usually the problem.

I have to repair my dash before anything happens though!

Have you seen my website? http://www.Nobel200.com/

JP
Title: Re: Nobel 200 dashboard
Post by: bubblenuts on July 26, 2011, 09:50:26 PM
its a RHD, your website is becoming the best source of info for nobel owners. keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Nobel 200 dashboard
Post by: Jonathan Poll on July 26, 2011, 10:15:59 PM
its a RHD, your website is becoming the best source of info for nobel owners. keep up the good work.

Thanks! I try my best, but it si no way as good as the new RUMcars site I am making. Maybe soon I can send you a sample page?

Are you interested in a FibreGlass dash?

JP
Title: Re: Nobel 200 dashboard
Post by: bubblenuts on July 28, 2011, 09:53:21 AM
I was thinking of maybe wood but i guess if the price was right and it was available would save a lot of hassle.
Title: Re: Nobel 200 dashboard
Post by: Barry on July 28, 2011, 10:07:33 AM
Could you show a picture of the dashboard?
Title: Re: Nobel 200 dashboard
Post by: blob on July 28, 2011, 01:31:43 PM
Glass fibre is the better option as the originals were pressed out using a former, you'd not have the raised areas where the switches and such are mounted if making a wooden replacement.
Title: Re: Nobel 200 dashboard
Post by: Bob Purton on July 28, 2011, 01:53:04 PM
You could create a raised area in wood if you wanted to, there are ways and means young Planty. Hang on though, doesnt the steel dashboard form part of the structure of the shell? Is strength a consideration? If so the fiber glass one could be reinforced with some steel work behind.
Title: Re: Nobel 200 dashboard
Post by: Stuart Cyphus on July 28, 2011, 02:42:03 PM
 Wood can be just as strong as metal in some applications.  :)
Title: Re: Nobel 200 dashboard
Post by: Bob Purton on July 28, 2011, 04:14:42 PM
True, ash frames, Bleriots monoplane etc but I was referring to fibreglass which can also be very strong but not a flat sheet of it. The dash board may not be structural at all, it was just a thought.
Title: Re: Nobel 200 dashboard
Post by: Jonathan Poll on July 28, 2011, 08:01:21 PM
Could you show a picture of the dashboard?


Here are some pictures. It is rusty, and needs a small panel welded in (glovebox, has a giant hole in it!).

I like the idea of a fibreglass dash, but of course with the meta panel behind it to support it, like the original ones.

JP
Title: Re: Nobel 200 dashboard
Post by: Barry on July 28, 2011, 08:09:26 PM
Can't see the photos - please try again, I would love to see the problem.
Title: Re: Nobel 200 dashboard
Post by: richard on July 28, 2011, 08:09:53 PM
i never found any pictures did you post them  :-\
Title: Re: Nobel 200 dashboard
Post by: Jonathan Poll on July 28, 2011, 08:48:01 PM
Can't see the photos - please try again, I would love to see the problem.

Forgot to add the link! http://www.nobel200.com/1/post/2010/12/dashboard-is-now-out.html

Sorry
Title: Re: Nobel 200 dashboard
Post by: bubblenuts on July 29, 2011, 12:00:26 AM
I have the flat metal bit from the back that bonds to the fiberglass and the glovebox box i just need to re fabricate the facia. I might even go for metal and embossed just like the original as a mate thinks he can do it at his work, tho would take a bit of work and a few attempts to create the former.  I've seen several pics of nobels/variants with flat dashboards and they look fine in anycase but was thinking if nobody has one readily available from an old car then wooden would be the easier option and i would be crafting the embossed bits from wood too. I dont think the cars strength would be compromised at all. The dash isn't really a structural component of the Nobel and as someone has already pointed out wood is strong.
Title: Re: Nobel 200 dashboard
Post by: Big Al on July 29, 2011, 08:48:10 AM
Laminated wood is strong and can be undercut to relief. Admittedly it is stronger if the laminates are curved. Then so is steel if it is under tension or with embossed ribs and so forth. Cannot remember the structure of the Nob dash. I think it will depend on what the body moulding has at the foot of the windscreen as to whether the added dash assembly is a structural element. I would expect a moulded strengthening rib under the screen as part of the bodyshell. If that is present it is probably self supporting. The give away will be in use as the screen is heavy and stress cracks will emanate from it into the gel coat if it is not strong enough. Also what is the steering bolted to? Is this the need for some stiffness but exclusive of the rest of the structural strength of the shell? If so a mod can be made that is reversible should the correct part become available.
Title: Re: Nobel 200 dashboard
Post by: Jonathan Poll on July 29, 2011, 10:36:07 AM
I have the flat metal bit from the back that bonds to the fiberglass and the glovebox box i just need to re fabricate the facia. I might even go for metal and embossed just like the original as a mate thinks he can do it at his work, tho would take a bit of work and a few attempts to create the former.  I've seen several pics of nobels/variants with flat dashboards and they look fine in anycase but was thinking if nobody has one readily available from an old car then wooden would be the easier option and i would be crafting the embossed bits from wood too. I dont think the cars strength would be compromised at all. The dash isn't really a structural component of the Nobel and as someone has already pointed out wood is strong.

The Nobel is the only one with the pressed dash. Fuldas dont, bambis dont, atticas dont, you name it.

However, Nobel pickups have flat dashes.

JP
Title: Re: Nobel 200 dashboard
Post by: Big Al on July 29, 2011, 11:48:46 AM
Which would suggest there is no structural issue. It makes sense for the shell to be in one bit and strong enough.
Title: Re: Nobel 200 dashboard
Post by: blob on July 29, 2011, 05:54:43 PM
Quote
doesnt the steel dashboard form part of the structure of the shell?

Only the dashboard back is bonded to the shell, the dash itself curves round at the sides, so unless you're going to steam it, glass fibre's a good alternative.
Title: Re: Nobel 200 dashboard
Post by: Jonathan Poll on July 29, 2011, 06:29:25 PM
Quote
doesnt the steel dashboard form part of the structure of the shell?

Only the dashboard back is bonded to the shell, the dash itself curves round at the sides, so unless you're going to steam it, glass fibre's a good alternative.

Only bit I cant make is the metal plate. I guess Ali would be best, but more expensive, but they do rust like hell, mine is horrible, the fold is only conencted to half the lenght of the chasis!

I will have to find out how to properly make a fibreglass mold, and buy some gel coat! We may also need some more fibre glass, but we have some left. My car will need lots though!

How much should I sell them at?

JP
Title: Re: Nobel 200 dashboard
Post by: Big Al on July 30, 2011, 10:11:09 AM
Trade for bits you need for the car initially! Always a fav.