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Title: eBay Bond D STOLEN
Post by: richard on March 28, 2015, 08:30:58 AM
Could someone post the link ? This car which a lot were watching , and is still on eBay , has now a note attached . Do not bid on this item it has been stolen !! 271813755214
Title: Re: eBay Bond D STOLEN
Post by: Bob Purton on March 28, 2015, 08:47:09 AM
I think the owner is panicking as neither of his Bonds are making what he expected at this late hour.
Title: Re: eBay Bond D STOLEN
Post by: Garybond on March 28, 2015, 08:57:25 AM
Interesting comment Bob as someone bid this morning and it was pinched on the 26th so why is it still on ebay?
Most people bid in the last few minutes any way
Title: Re: eBay Bond D STOLEN
Post by: Big Al on March 28, 2015, 09:13:26 AM
Alternatively it suggests the problem of publicizing you have car. It can be seen to exist, its whereabouts become known, and there you go. If he leaves the auction to run he is advertising its been nicked, for free. The Police will do little, You need to network yourself and find the car. I was lucky, I got my Messerachmitt back after hard graft and good trade connections. Are you going to buy an unknown cheap Bond MkD unquestioned right now? I know this does not fit in with the narrative that all info is to belong to the collective, but its is a reality in its own right. I have had to many folk sniffing round and taking things from me, to not take this seriously.

Did John Dobb ever get his cars back? What about the stolen Breutsch? I could go on but its depressing.

ON the other side advertising it as Bond literature is not really going to pull in the punters for a car, nor spread the word effectively about a theft. I pity the thief. He turned up expecting a Villiers manual and got stuffed with a whole flippin car!
Title: Re: eBay Bond D STOLEN
Post by: richard on March 28, 2015, 10:01:19 AM
So ! What are we saying ?? That if the bidding keeps up and reaches £4000 it will suddenly found the vendor looked in the wrong lock up and it was still there all the time  ;) surely last minute bidding is where its at anyway
Title: Re: eBay Bond D STOLEN
Post by: Bob Purton on March 28, 2015, 10:09:34 AM
Just a hunch.  If it has been stolen I feel truly sorry for the guy.
Title: Re: eBay Bond D STOLEN
Post by: DaveMiller on March 28, 2015, 11:00:47 AM
Could someone post the link ?

Posting the link is easy: at the relevant page, go to the URL address, which at first will just say "ebay.co.uk".  When you copy it, though, you get the full banana:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271813755214?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

I don't understand the seller's note: has the car been stolen, or its number?
Title: Re: eBay Bond D STOLEN
Post by: richard on March 28, 2015, 11:17:12 AM
I know how to post links Dave I do it all the time but haven't figured out how to on iPhone . The message is pretty poor isn't it but it's definitely the car he's referring to . I think we must read " has got to no. " as has got to know ! HM  :)
Title: Re: eBay Bond D STOLEN
Post by: Big Al on March 28, 2015, 11:56:44 AM
So ! What are we saying ?? That if the bidding keeps up and reaches £4000 it will suddenly found the vendor looked in the wrong lock up and it was still there all the time  ;) surely last minute bidding is where its at anyway

No, you can get the cardboard and paint out and sell him your Welsh one for a nice little earner, just through the tunnel in Liverpool, so they get the blame.
Changing tack slightly, I thought of this dodgy blame them across the river move, as I read the other day that Wallasay is in the top ten Postcodes to live for 'normal' people.
Title: Re: eBay Bond D STOLEN
Post by: DaveMiller on March 28, 2015, 12:09:25 PM
I know how to post links Dave I do it all the time but haven't figured out how to on iPhone .

If using the eBay app, while on relevant page tap the "export" (arrow upwards out of box) symbol, and choose "copy". Go to forum posting, tap-and-hold, and choose "paste".

If using browser to see eBay, tap and hold on URL, then tap again and "select", "copy". In forum posting, tap-and-hold, "paste".

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=271813755214
Title: Re: eBay Bond D STOLEN
Post by: richard on March 28, 2015, 04:43:13 PM
thanks Dave have copied as you said but "tap-and-hold" has us both stumped  :) sitting here furiously tapping and holding my finger on my iPhone screen and of course nothing happens - we guess you did actually mean that . Karen by the way says hi  :)
Title: Re: eBay Bond D STOLEN
Post by: DaveMiller on March 28, 2015, 05:13:31 PM
Sorry - just tried it again. No need to "hold". First tap makes it all blue, second tap lets you copy.
Title: Re: eBay Bond D STOLEN
Post by: richard on March 28, 2015, 08:26:13 PM
OMG !!!!! the 1949 Mark A went for just £700 this was a steal !

and the stolen D finished at £901 but we were told not to bid !

what IS the story to this bidding ? poor man , on the forum , that paid nearly 5k for a very similar and equally rare A only 3 months ago  :'(
and is the D stolen , I have offered to help him publicise the theft 
Title: Re: eBay Bond D STOLEN
Post by: richard on March 28, 2015, 09:24:02 PM
well well apparently the vendor has received a tip off as to where the car is
Title: Re: eBay Bond D STOLEN
Post by: Bob Purton on March 28, 2015, 10:22:00 PM
Seems my hunch was right.
Title: Re: eBay Bond D STOLEN
Post by: Grant Kearney on March 28, 2015, 11:23:27 PM
Don't believe all you read on E-Bay. 
Title: Re: eBay Bond D STOLEN
Post by: Big Al on March 29, 2015, 09:44:49 AM
Seems my hunch was right.

Is it on a percentage? Or did the picture ring a Bell? Nah ha!
Title: Re: eBay Bond D STOLEN
Post by: DaveMiller on March 29, 2015, 12:32:12 PM
Just had a phone call, asking me to put details in the Bond Info, so that Bonders aren't confused:

The Bond has NOT been stolen.  It is safely in the garage of the new owner (Dave McNeice), who bought it outright.  Seller didn't know how to withdraw it from eBay when it had sold elsewise.
Title: Re: eBay Bond D STOLEN
Post by: Bob Purton on March 29, 2015, 12:49:58 PM
Seems Grant got the same vibes as I did on this farce.

Good that Dave clarified this as Dave McNeice was in danger of a citizens arrest at the first show he turned up at with the car! ;D

It will be interesting to see if the winning bidder actually ends up with the MkA or not.
Title: Re: eBay Bond D STOLEN
Post by: richard on March 29, 2015, 01:55:17 PM
Pleased that Dave has the car but what a story ! I think the vendor probably screwed up the sale of the MK A he looking so dodgy buyers may have thought better of dealing with him ? As far as I am concerned it enlivened a forum that had settled into a daily report on how two replicas were being built - yawn . Is no-one else doing anything worth posting ? or perhaps just to busy doing it  :)
Title: Re: eBay Bond D STOLEN
Post by: Bob Purton on March 29, 2015, 02:26:18 PM
I have loads to tell but its all about the replica I'm building!
We all are interested in different things, one mans meat is another mans Quorn.
Title: Re: eBay Bond D STOLEN
Post by: Grant Kearney on March 29, 2015, 03:10:40 PM
Seems Grant got the same vibes as I did on this farce.

Good that Dave clarified this as Dave McNeice was in danger of a citizens arrest at the first show he turned up at with the car! ;D

I had a little inside info, but as it was not my deal, I could not say anything other than alert my father in-law, Dave McNeice to what was being said on the Forum.
I'm all in favour of a citizens arrest at this years BOC annual rally in May when the MkD will make its first public appearance  ;D
Title: Re: eBay Bond D STOLEN
Post by: richard on March 29, 2015, 04:44:54 PM
I did say as far as I was concerned Bob , more a criticism of lack of other contributions rather than anything else . I didn't know about that marital tie up Grant , I don't think anyone believed the theft but I did offer to help just in case , it would have been an awful thing to happen but what a whopper I was told !! He had just bought the garage and thought the previous owner must have kept a key !! What embellishment  :o  ;D
Title: Re: eBay Bond D STOLEN
Post by: plas man on March 30, 2015, 03:53:02 PM
That's some fairy tale to tell Joe public on the rally field , nice bit off history for the car  ;)
Title: Re: eBay Bond D STOLEN
Post by: richard on March 30, 2015, 04:27:29 PM
Indeed I would have it printed up and framed  :) NOW the A where is it ? Has that gone to a good home ? It looks as if that too needs front slats for the bonnet - that's a few sets IF we get any made
Title: Re: eBay Bond D STOLEN
Post by: Garybond on March 30, 2015, 10:03:43 PM
I am all for the slats hopefully having batches made should make it cheaper
Do not suppose the A went to the highest bidder as he put that £2500 was the start but with the other rubbish printed by him who knows
Title: Re: eBay Bond D STOLEN
Post by: DaveMiller on April 05, 2015, 04:34:11 PM
NOW the A where is it ? Has that gone to a good home ? It looks as if that too needs front slats for the bonnet - that's a few sets IF we get any made
The A was "won", at £700, by Bond Owners Club member Geoff Prince, but when he contacted the seller to arrange payment and collection, the seller said he could have it only if he paid £2500.
Geoff went to eBay resolution and the seller said he'd got confused and didn't want to sell it in the end.
Mmmm, don't think I'll be buying anything from waltwa_3870 !
Title: Re: eBay Bond D STOLEN
Post by: Bob Purton on April 05, 2015, 04:40:08 PM
Exactly as predicted by myself and others.  Thanks for the update Dave.

Ebay. Dont ya just love it! ;D
Title: Re: eBay Bond D STOLEN
Post by: Rob Dobie on April 05, 2015, 05:26:49 PM
I love ebay. Sold over £20,000 worth of goods so far over 10 years.  ;D
It's some of the idiots advertising their rubbish who think it is worth a fortune and get upset when others disagree.

Last year I put on an unused vintage postcard for 99p just to get rid of it, a week later 2 people had taken it up to over £90 and winner paid for it.
A few years earlier I put on the largest vintage Brooks bike saddle I have ever seen for a fiver, finishing at over £200 to someone in America. I've also sold things for 50p thinking they will rise to astronomical prices. What a lot of people don't realise is that the winning price of a lot is a legal sale, I believe.  8)
Title: Re: eBay Bond D STOLEN
Post by: Jim Janecek on April 05, 2015, 05:28:46 PM
perhaps the seller was having a stroke when he added these additional terms.
Not sure what his native language is, but if this is the fault of doing all your "interneting" via a cheap phone, this is what the future looks like for communication:

On 26-Mar-15 at 09:25:35 GMT, seller added the following information:
I  hav e  had  lots  of intrest,in  this  car,[ find  me  one  like  it,,]95/;  there,, it  has  a  reserive  and  now  intrest  else  were,,do  not  bid,,if  you are  not prepared  to pay  2400

 ::)
Title: Re: eBay Bond D STOLEN
Post by: Big Al on April 05, 2015, 06:37:35 PM
In theory it is a binding deal. In practice it seems almost impossible to enforce. Feel sorry for Geoff Prince, do not know him, I think. Mentally he was owning a car, only to have it snatched away.
Cannot beat going to the cars to view/buy before the end of auction. If your not able to from the other end, or the vibes put you off going, then pass. I was invited to a layby for a Schmitt purchase and some old greenhouses to buy a BX GTI. Yeah, like I am turning up with folding to such places on my own. From that down to that 6th sense, pass.
Title: Re: eBay Bond D STOLEN
Post by: Rusty Chrome (Malcolm Parker) on April 05, 2015, 08:22:16 PM
Ultimately, you're always taking a gamble if you purchase a high-value item from someone with a very low feedback score on Ebay. The seller obviously didn't have a lot of experience with Ebay otherwise the listing would have been much better, much more prominent and assuming his intention was to sell, he'd have probably ended up much closer to the price he wanted in the first place. At the end of the auction, the buyer and seller have entered into a binding contract and the seller is legally obliged to provide the goods. What happens when the seller doesn't supply through really depends on how much hassle you think it's worth and how much you want to spend on legal fees. £2.5K doesn't sound unrealistic given what that other Mk A sold for recently, sure it's disappointing not to get a major bargain, but you'd be well placed to haggle if you really want a Mk A.