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General Category => Sales & Auctions => Topic started by: wilksie on February 02, 2014, 11:04:59 AM

Title: Biscooter
Post by: wilksie on February 02, 2014, 11:04:59 AM
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C414160

Two for sale in France. Are there any in the UK? Haven't seen any at the National.
Title: Re: Biscooter
Post by: richard on February 02, 2014, 11:30:28 AM
Hate to pedantic but they were built as Biscuter why do people know them as Biscooter - I know I know but for reference sake any serious info on google should turn up on the correct spelling. - not aimed at you at all Wilksie but the advertiser . I like them but have no experience of them , for some reason I expect them to be very 2CV like . Do they really fetch that price ? I see they also have a Fram King for sale
Title: Re: Biscooter
Post by: Jean on February 02, 2014, 12:19:26 PM
Hi Richard, if you read the Voisin story in RUMCAR NEWS you will see both spellings are correct, it depends on the age of the vehicle as I understand it! Jean
Title: Re: Biscooter
Post by: Rob Dobie on February 02, 2014, 03:41:55 PM
scuter...Spanish. scooter...English
Title: Re: Biscooter
Post by: wilksie on February 02, 2014, 04:31:02 PM
I did check the spelling on Wikipedia before I posted my message, as I too was more familiar with the 'Biscuter' spelling. The car originated in France in the late 40s, built by Voisin, and called the "Biscooter'. From 1953 it was licensed to a Spanish firm in Barcelona. The changed the spelling to 'Biscuter', more in keeping with Spanish custom.

It is how the French vendor spells his car(s) for sale. Correctly, against my initial doubts. Interestingly
3-wheeler/dot/com hasn't listed it at all.

Let nobody say that the RUMcars Forum isn't a source of knowledge!

Right, I need to tend to my Noble 200 now!
Title: Re: Biscooter
Post by: DaveMiller on February 02, 2014, 04:48:52 PM
... Interestingly 3-wheeler/dot/com hasn't listed it at all ...

Perhaps because it has four wheels? ;)
Title: Re: Biscooter
Post by: Chris Thomas on February 02, 2014, 04:49:04 PM
Dear Wilksie

The reason it is not on 3 wheeler .com is because they never made a three wheeler Biscuter or Biscooter.

To my knowledge there is at least one Biscuter that resides in the British Isles.

If ever you get the chance to drive one it is worth the opportunity. It is not like a 2 CV as the suspension is not soft and wollowy, It is just very different to any other Villiers engine vehicle.

There will be a bit more on the Biscuter in the next edition of RCN.

Chris Thomas
Rumcar News
Title: Re: Biscooter
Post by: richard on February 02, 2014, 04:53:51 PM
look forward to it chris - i believe your expecting something Gordon too - oh crikey thinking cap on
Title: Re: Biscooter
Post by: wilksie on February 03, 2014, 12:36:40 AM
Good point about the four wheels. As I said I don't think I have ever seen one, but I could have checked the photos a bit more closely.

Regarding spelling, I believe I got away with the deliberate mistake in my second post.
Title: Re: Biscooter
Post by: richard on February 03, 2014, 08:53:42 AM
Well you got one past the headmaster as I still can't spot it ! Have been through it with my red crayon and I can only see a missing y or n from the end of the . Do tell
Title: Re: Biscooter
Post by: Big Al on February 03, 2014, 09:49:54 AM
So are these Biscuters in France or French Biscooters, which I assume will be far rarer? I must export my car and sell it from Spain as the only Scutercar. Confused, you will be.
Title: Re: Biscooter
Post by: wilksie on February 03, 2014, 10:55:35 AM
Well you got one past the headmaster as I still can't spot it ! Have been through it with my red crayon and I can only see a missing y or n from the end of the . Do tell

That was the inadvertent mistake.

But I'll give you a hint: We were talking about the spelling of microcar names.
Title: Re: Biscooter
Post by: DaveMiller on February 03, 2014, 01:21:49 PM
Regarding spelling, I believe I got away with the deliberate mistake in my second post.

Well, it was nobel of you to admit it!
Title: Re: Biscooter
Post by: Rusty Chrome (Malcolm Parker) on February 03, 2014, 06:30:27 PM
I though they were called Biscuiter because they were made from recycled biscuit tins. Happily the book Chris has recently translated has dispelled any such illusions - I can very highly recommend this new version of the book, which explains why a car which was initiated in France was quickly sidelined there and yet went on to take a similar level of popularity in Spain as the Bond Minicar did in the UK.
Title: Re: Biscooter
Post by: Chris Thomas on February 03, 2014, 07:21:49 PM
Dear Malcolm

Have you managed to read it all, or are you cherry picking your way through?

Glad you have enjoyed reading it.

Chris Thomas
Title: Re: Biscooter
Post by: Bob Purton on February 03, 2014, 07:33:29 PM
I think its about time you bought yourself one of those biscuit tins Chris, I know you like them! Or are you going to tell us you don't fit again? ;)
Title: Re: Biscooter
Post by: Rusty Chrome (Malcolm Parker) on February 03, 2014, 07:56:15 PM
Hi Chris

I'm still working my way through it, but I've browsed through it enough to know that in comparison to most microcar books it's a significant piece of work.
Title: Re: Biscooter
Post by: jean-do on February 03, 2014, 10:04:10 PM
hi friends,
big mistake ! they call " biscOOter Voisin C31 " that is really a biscUter Nacional  " ... the spanish pale copy under licence of french prototypes ..
Gabriel Voisin said that they were unfortunately not "Voisin " because of using steel for body versus original lightweight aluminum ...
for those that were not there in 2010 , we showed 13 of the 23 prototypes Voisin during our Bisbi nationa lrally ; from the number 001 ... to lat 4 seats , crossing to Facteur ( postman) monoplace , rare unique truck , and rarest Voisin trailor !!
great weekend !
(http://i57.servimg.com/u/f57/11/44/77/74/p1030310.jpg)
(http://i57.servimg.com/u/f57/11/44/77/74/img_0310.jpg)
(http://i57.servimg.com/u/f57/11/44/77/74/dscn4810.jpg)

rendez vous  29-31 august 2014 !!!
Title: Re: Biscooter
Post by: Chris Thomas on February 03, 2014, 11:13:33 PM
Dear Jean Do

Thank you for posting these images again of your Bisbi national rally. It was stupid of me to have not come to your rally that year.

What will be your theme this year, so we can plan to be with you?

The only Biscuter Voisin would not allow his name on was the Pegasin, with a GRP body as he said it was A kind of Perversion as the body was heavier than the other models and was slower and the access to the engine was poor. in other words impractical, which for Voisin was a sin. He was happy with the steel sheet cars as it was all that they could buy at the time to keep production running.

Chris Thomas
Rumcar News
Title: Re: Biscooter
Post by: jean-do on February 13, 2014, 08:56:08 AM
hi chris and friends
see post i wrote in event forum ... and of course you're welcome in Burgundy !
this 4th edition will be ISETTA all builder's special weekend ...
but if you come with some rarities ,you will probably be the star ! ^^