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Bob Purton

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Nobel steering.
« on: January 25, 2012, 04:52:56 PM »
After much deliberation I decided to replace my Nobel center steering pin with a new one, the old one had a severely corroded tapper and mullered woodruff key slot, I thought it wasnt worth risking my neck using it so here is the new one, notice the longer improved key slot.  What do you think? Ive heard a few Nobel owners say this is the hardest part to sort out but it is possible , you just have to bite the bullet!
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Re: Nobel steering.
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2012, 04:59:43 PM »
ah dear old Mullered Woodruff - Key . haven't heard anything of him since he went off with that landgirl in '42 and it turned out  she was only after extra rations  ;)
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Re: Nobel steering.
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2012, 05:07:29 PM »
You sure it wasn't for stockings to put in a gearbox?

Back in the 1960s we rented a house from an RSPSA inspector called Woodruff-Peacock.
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Re: Nobel steering.
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2012, 05:08:32 PM »
Looks like a nice piece of work there Bob. I presume you did the machining yourself. I wish I had a better lathe, but other priorities.

LD: Surely you mean m'Lord Woodruff-Quay of Nobel!
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Re: Nobel steering.
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2012, 05:15:04 PM »
 LOL :D     ( whats RSPSA Rob ? )
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Re: Nobel steering.
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2012, 05:32:05 PM »
Regional Society for the Prevention of Stocking Assaults.

Woops! I should have typed RSPCA.  C4S
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Re: Nobel steering.
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2012, 05:40:41 PM »
Royal Society for the Prevention of Shocking Assaults?

Look folks, we are steering away from the thread just as Bob steers his moped away from the road.

Right, that should link us back to topic!
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Re: Nobel steering.
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2012, 05:52:10 PM »
That looks very nice Bob.
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Re: Nobel steering.
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2012, 06:45:56 PM »
Quote from: Bob Purton on January 25, 2012, 04:52:56 PM
After much deliberation I decided to replace my Nobel center steering pin with a new one, the old one had a severely corroded tapper and mullered woodruff key slot, I thought it wasnt worth risking my neck using it so here is the new one, notice the longer improved key slot.  What do you think? Ive heard a few Nobel owners say this is the hardest part to sort out but it is possible , you just have to bite the bullet!

As I said, looking great!
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Re: Nobel steering.
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2012, 10:51:15 AM »
So much better than the rough looking wood key hardness specification original. The taper is all as it needs to be a sure grip in a position of no great mechanical advantage when on lock. A poor bit of design really but these are cheap cars and that's the way it came. One has to wonder though when you see the simplicity of the Heinkel steering rack which rarely needs to be repaired. Bang that in and you only have to worry about grip and stopping!
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Re: Nobel steering.
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2012, 05:45:53 PM »
glad you aprove of the Heinkel one . i have one that i hope will fit the Bruetsch - like all else mechanical it's missing . i too liked the feel of a Heinkel .
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Re: Nobel steering.
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2012, 06:06:58 PM »
^ It is one of the aspects of the Heinkel which in my opinion make it a small car rather than a "cabin scooter" or "cabin moped", that and good brakes!

Once I was in Deptford returning home from Bromley Pageant of Motoring with Squeak beside me. We were in the inside lane and a car to our right hid us from the view of a Morris Minor (in nice nick and possibly also returning from Bromley by another route) which was heading the other way.

Not realising we were there, Moggie turned Right in front of us, we were feet away and doing 20 mph, but I have very fast reactions and hit the brakes hard. Moggie had just spotted us and cleverly accelerated as fast as possible to try to make space for us behind him, I could hear his motor and tyres screaming. DUF's amazingly good braking and controllable handling saved the day. We were both hugely relieved not to have damaged each other's Pride and Joy! Squeak and I had both assumed we would die, but she was very calm then laughed it off.
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Re: Nobel steering.
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2012, 06:25:23 AM »
Quote from: marcus on January 26, 2012, 06:06:58 PM
^ It is one of the aspects of the Heinkel which in my opinion make it a small car rather than a "cabin scooter" or "cabin moped", that and good brakes!

Once I was in Deptford returning home from Bromley Pageant of Motoring with Squeak beside me. We were in the inside lane and a car to our right hid us from the view of a Morris Minor (in nice nick and possibly also returning from Bromley by another route) which was heading the other way.

Not realising we were there, Moggie turned Right in front of us, we were feet away and doing 20 mph, but I have very fast reactions and hit the brakes hard. Moggie had just spotted us and cleverly accelerated as fast as possible to try to make space for us behind him, I could hear his motor and tyres screaming. DUF's amazingly good braking and controllable handling saved the day. We were both hugely relieved not to have damaged each other's Pride and Joy! Squeak and I had both assumed we would die, but she was very calm then laughed it off.

Nice brakes?
I thought they roll the car when you pressed the pedal around a corner, because of the angle of the dampers!
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Re: Nobel steering.
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2012, 07:58:38 AM »
i just loved the ride - its all part of the fun  :)
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Re: Nobel steering.
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2012, 08:18:44 AM »
True Jonathan, hard braking and swerving is not good, but because the Moggie driver had the experience and wisdom to accelerate hard in low gear it meant I barely had to turn, we were mostly saved by the great "in line" braking power. The hydraulic brakes and the lightweight/low momentum of an H/T at low to medium speed give stunning stopping ability. Squeak also has quick reactions and braced herself with her feet, and I put out my left arm to help hold her back from the windscreen, whilst bracing myself against the steering wheel. Most other micros would have collided.
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