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General Category => Microcar Events => Topic started by: richard on May 22, 2014, 12:17:13 PM
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National Rally this weekend - hopefully will meet up again with forum members Jim, Rusty Chrome, Nimrod cabin and Dave Miller . Can't get there until Sunday but looking forward to it very much and the much silliness and HUGE competitiveness at driving events
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Which one of your cars are you going in? ;D
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Well bob its a problem I wrestle with I must say . Last year jim and malcolm were also carless but working on restorations . Mainly due to pressure of work , and a very active social life , I still haven't got a car ready - wait till I retire eh ? Still much better to be there than not . Always spend a goodly portion of the sunday afternoon helping the driving tests . What's your excuse then Rob ? Helping a neighbour with a wardrobe again YAWN ? ;D
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Got rid of that fat bitch. Well and truly got stitched up by the old dog. Story of my life really. :(
The excuse this time: Too far for my electric bike to travel and I might get lost in the forest. Also trying to bash up my 12' x 8' x 4' pond. The heron and seagulls had a picnic last week! :'( Who want a ton of rubble?
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Knotts and Bonds, Na ha! It all makes sense when you know about it.
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A lovely day was had at Nottingham on Sunday , met up with several forum members , wives and partners, and watchers too . Fantastic weather but much talk was of the appalling wind and rain on the on the Friday and Saturday and adventures on the run . I had left home 05.30 in order to drive all the way to Byards Leap area, 3 1/2 hours away in order to purchase a couple of micro related engines . The urgency being to get them before Bob and Planty were in the area next weekend and got a sniff of them ! ;)
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But you are quite happy to pick my brains as to what the engine even is before hand! ::)
Are you another engine hoarder like Mr Plant? How is this helping get more microcars on the road?
I guess it could save some from being scrapped.
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Bob I did not mean to wind you up . The engines were not on the micro scene at all so there is more chance now than before ! As I had told you before they were not cheap but I think they are good ? Thanks for the help in identifying the one I was unsure of , it has to turned out to be a Villiers 9E 4/ SF as used on some Scooters and Scootacars . I love finding stuff that's all .
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Not wound up Richard, just banter.
The point I make about hoarders I think is valid though. I know people who don't restore cars or drive them, just buy up all the parts and tuck them away like trophies. Then when genuine enthusiasts need say an engine for there car to get it or keep it on the road it makes things much much harder to find. Mind you still others who have bought up the stock are very willing to sell the bits to someone in genuine need. I have received such help from more than one hoarder!
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Take your point bob but the biggest "hoarders" , not that they mean to be ! ,of all are the autojumblers trying to clear boxes of tat that they have had for 30 plus years - it takes an eye and a bad back to find it for what it is and put it in the micro field . New to the market items bob - you will know that phrase !
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I do indeed as the first 28 years in my trade I was a dealer but now turned restorer. Seen both sides.
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Take your point bob but the biggest "hoarders" , not that they mean to be ! ,of all are the autojumblers trying to clear boxes of tat that they have had for 30 plus years - it takes an eye and a bad back to find it for what it is and put it in the micro field . New to the market items bob - you will know that phrase !
What I was mainly doing for 20 years, and I enjoyed finding the stuff, but they way people carry on you would not think I was doing a service in bring new stuff into the accessible market. Only difference was I admitted making money out of it and paid my tax as a good citizen. Probably a bad decision looking back on it. Should have kept my tax and morphed the availability into Robin Hood and his dodgy geezers. Hey ho.
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A lovely day in Nottingham. Here are a few pics.
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I must go next year looks a good turnout
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It was , but a great shame too wet in the grass for driving games which are usually a highlight . They really (ab)use those cars !
i can count 17 minicars in those pics - but there are bound to be more . i can also make out L - R terry day, trevor bateman , mike hele, nick mander, myself talking to ace cartoonist dennis jump . it was the first time many of us had ever seen a Bond MK A , on the right , next to a MK B , both white . much talk was of the different dimensions - very nerdish but fun .
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Mass Bonds. Always takes me back to Burford when the Bonds arrived in convoy to the massed beat of Villiers, that friendly, almost duck pond homely sound, only Bonds seem to make. Always been a club of stalwart individualists, but they club too.
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The point I make about hoarders I think is valid though.
The entire foundation of RUM is built on a mans obsession of hoarding parts, so it seems a little too easy to point the shit stick at hoarders. What with poor build quality of some cars and condition of spares, all too often one needs to collect multiples of the same item. Though a percentage of enthusiasts actually prefer swapping parts as opposed to asking a premium for them. Likewise many engines are stripped to build a good one, it is all part and parcel of the microcar scene.
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Yes Planty. How is the 9E collection? Does it still stand at 10? I guess you could use them as book ends in your house! ;) ;D
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"Likewise many engines are stripped to build a good one, it is all part and parcel of the microcar scene."
It used to be, when there were plenty of them around. Now due to hoarders the real enthusiast has to build up those pillaged scrappers just to get themselves an engine to drive there cars. ::)
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Well, I used to have a, 'cross that bridge when I come to it' attitude, about spares for cars that I own, as I don't collect anything but. However after prices rocketed. I decided unlike the Nobel, the F3 should have 1 engine and 1 spare. So I currently have 3 engines requiring a rebuild, 1 that might be from a scooter and some miscellaneous parts from another, baring in mind only 2 were bought within microcar circles. I didn't see anyone offering me a free 9E engine shroud when I had to pay £250 for one! And yet the same method of acquiring has benefited more than a handful of Rumsters, you included! ;)
Now due to hoarders the real enthusiast has to build up those pillaged scrappers just to get themselves an engine
Exactly, only the IoW one is complete! Do tell what you utilized that 11E for? ;D
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For the record, the 11e was sold on to a deserving buyer building a project and was a complete engine. Yes, I swapped over the piston and barrel because it was in marginally better condition then the ones on my 9e. I even stripped the 11e down and replaced all the gaskets and oil seals so the guy got a good engine.
Anyway, Mike, you know my motive for this leg pull, to get you motivated to actually put back together one of your cars instead of trying to corner spares markets. Get some dirt under those finger nails!
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It comes to something when Villiers start getting hard to find.
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Get some dirt under those finger nails!
Watch this space ;) just finished making the garage thief proof! >:(
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blob you really should refrain from some language - and no i didn't mean Villiers
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Yes, I know, I had to put up with his bad language all weekend! I'm thinking of telling his mum.