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General Category => Unusual Microcar Discussion => Topic started by: micro marshall on June 05, 2013, 12:01:15 PM

Title: spot the diffrence
Post by: micro marshall on June 05, 2013, 12:01:15 PM
put the difference you spot in the comments and good luck! ;D
Title: Re: spot the diffrence
Post by: micro marshall on June 05, 2013, 12:04:42 PM
The second picture
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Post by: Barry on June 05, 2013, 12:11:49 PM
So Far............
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Post by: micro marshall on June 05, 2013, 12:14:28 PM
not quite, there is still one more ;D
Title: Re: spot the diffrence
Post by: Stuart Cyphus on June 05, 2013, 12:19:28 PM
Differences I've spotted...

1, Date code in corner of one pic and not the other.

2, different blades of grass creeping into bottom of second picture.

3, slightly different cloud formations in the sky.

4, sun's in slightly different position.


 What do you mean "we're meant to be be looking at the car"???!!??

 ;)   ;D   :-*
Title: Re: spot the diffrence
Post by: micro marshall on June 05, 2013, 12:24:01 PM
no no its on the car is just a very small difference :D. :-* ;D ;D
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Post by: Stef on June 05, 2013, 12:25:30 PM
Sticker removed.
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Post by: micro marshall on June 05, 2013, 12:28:00 PM
that's one of them but not the one they cant find  ;D
Title: Re: spot the diffrence
Post by: Stuart Cyphus on June 05, 2013, 12:30:39 PM
I spotted straight away the "1"'s missing off the number plate, but then I would notice that...  ;)

(Plate's a Bluemels Silverite by the way)  ;D
Title: Re: spot the diffrence
Post by: micro marshall on June 05, 2013, 12:32:23 PM
yes but that's still not the one you haven't found yet ;D :D
Title: Re: spot the diffrence
Post by: micro marshall on June 05, 2013, 12:37:15 PM
sorry i was wrong there are two difference you have missed. :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: spot the diffrence
Post by: Stef on June 05, 2013, 12:40:27 PM
RHS Numberplate drill hole/plug filled/darker  :P
Title: Re: spot the diffrence
Post by: micro marshall on June 05, 2013, 12:41:47 PM
yes well done but there is still one more :D :D
Title: Re: spot the diffrence
Post by: Big Al on June 05, 2013, 12:56:35 PM
One is blue?
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Post by: Stuart Cyphus on June 05, 2013, 12:58:55 PM
Hasn't been repainted has it?   :o
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Post by: Big Al on June 05, 2013, 01:03:58 PM
Goal!

The snail has just overtaken it?
Title: Re: spot the diffrence
Post by: Rob Dobie on June 05, 2013, 03:45:57 PM
It's not spotty.  Had a re-spray then has it?  ;D
Title: Re: spot the diffrence
Post by: micro marshall on June 05, 2013, 04:15:09 PM
no its nothing to do with the paint
 :o
Title: Re: spot the diffrence
Post by: micro marshall on June 05, 2013, 04:16:29 PM
One is blue?
I think they are both blue ;D
Title: Re: spot the diffrence
Post by: Stuart Cyphus on June 05, 2013, 04:42:08 PM

I think they are both blue ;D


 Only their language occasionally...  ;D
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Post by: Rob Dobie on June 05, 2013, 04:43:38 PM
Got it!  There's a long plate screwed next to the door handle on the second picture, but what is the thing it's covering?  ??? ;D
Title: Re: spot the diffrence
Post by: micro marshall on June 05, 2013, 04:45:18 PM
finally nice one Rob
Title: Re: spot the diffrence
Post by: Rob Dobie on June 05, 2013, 04:48:56 PM
The name's Rob. A bob is an old shilling. Oh, sorry, you're too young to know that  ;D But what is the pimple under the plate?
Title: Re: spot the diffrence
Post by: micro marshall on June 05, 2013, 04:52:47 PM
it holds the handle on ;D :D
Title: Re: spot the diffrence
Post by: richard on June 05, 2013, 05:18:26 PM
very important to keep the handle on mm as they can be VERY expensive to replace on a Peel  :)
Title: Re: spot the diffrence
Post by: Big Al on June 05, 2013, 05:45:30 PM
One is blue?
I think they are both blue ;D

Stuart is looking for a spare set of paint for his car, hence his interest. Hmm, must just be the smoked haddock and bright sunshine then. Could have sworn one was blue. Perhaps if I took the skin off?
Title: Re: spot the diffrence
Post by: micro marshall on June 05, 2014, 04:50:12 PM
Another spot the difference for you ;D
Title: Re: spot the diffrence
Post by: richard on June 05, 2014, 08:12:47 PM
it's a bit clumsy my friend we just have to look for what is there but fuzzed out and see what's missing - rear light , legs of man , st. georges flag is it ? lens in roadworks lamp etc etc
Title: Re: spot the diffrence
Post by: Chris Thomas on June 05, 2014, 08:47:17 PM
Not forgetting the date has moved
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Post by: steven mandell on June 07, 2014, 05:33:29 PM
How about identifying this car in the bush?
Title: Re: spot the diffrence
Post by: Rob Dobie on June 07, 2014, 05:48:06 PM
Could it be a FriskySport?

If it was a Harley, it might be a hedge-hog  ;D
Title: Re: spot the diffrence
Post by: steven mandell on June 07, 2014, 06:32:20 PM
John Meadows will be relieved to hear that the Sport is garaged in block walled and steel roofed building that I erected in my back yard, that completely protects it from the Big Bad Wolf of the outdoors.
So, no it couldn't be a Frisky Sport- but I can see the visual basis for your guess.
Title: Re: spot the diffrence
Post by: richard on June 07, 2014, 07:08:18 PM
well it's steel and 4 wheeled and very small so is it something Crosley ?
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Post by: Rusty Chrome (Malcolm Parker) on June 07, 2014, 07:10:11 PM
I'd guess BMW 700 Coupe.
Title: Re: spot the diffrence
Post by: Garybond on June 07, 2014, 07:35:34 PM
I thought the same but the convertible
Title: Re: spot the diffrence
Post by: steven mandell on June 07, 2014, 08:11:04 PM
You are getting closer.
Title: Re: spot the diffrence
Post by: Big Al on June 08, 2014, 07:28:31 AM
Hedging my bets and glad its not pushing up the daisies. Its one of the NSU Sport Prinz series. Looking like a later NSU one.
Title: Re: spot the diffrence, so
Post by: steven mandell on June 08, 2014, 11:16:46 AM
It only makes sense that the man who sold more microcars of different makes than anyone else in the known universe would get this right.
However for it to be a later model Sport Prinze with the German made body- you were off by a couple of feet. 
I will send you a photo that you can post of the 1963 German made body car that has different cut lines for the panels whilst remarkably keeping an apparently identical overall body contour.  It is of slightly more robust construction and has a different dash console and interior details than the 1960 Bertone Italian built body car that is a lot more common on the West coast of the US that you discerned hiding in the bush.
Good call overall.  ;)

For some reason unbeknown to myself, the Rumcars software that allowed me to post the picture of the car in the bush wouldn't post my immediately succeeding picture taken by the same camera just moments later.  It said my file was too big, even though the files should be the same size for both photos.  I then tried to send my post without the newer photo, and it refused to accept the remaining text , necessitating this rewrite.

When I send the photo to Al my cell phone allows me to reduce the DPI content- so hopefully Al will be able to post this picture of the area immediately adjacent to the bush photo forthwith.
Title: Re: spot the diffrence
Post by: Big Al on June 09, 2014, 09:40:10 AM
Might work. Not to good an idea sending images to me as I struggle to get these things to work.

It did, so there is a NSU NSU Sport Prinz. Not a Bertone or German Drautz. Represents stunning value for money in my opinion. Perhaps not a full microcar, but the best in class by quite a way. Still inexpensive but for how much longer. Had some 12 of these babs over the years. It is said that less than 40 are left to the UK in any condition. Key prob - rust.

When the dust settles on sorting myself out I might yet buy a Spyder, but that is not really a Microcar more than the Sport is not.
Title: Re: spot the diffrence
Post by: steven mandell on June 09, 2014, 05:43:07 PM
What are the differences between an NSU built NSU Sport Prinz, and a Drautz built one.
I had not heard anyone make such a distinction before.  What is the missing history here?

I must consider myself lucky, as I have 3 Sport Prinzes, and one Prinze in "field conditions" for the last 30 years here in Southern California, and the only areas that rust are the floors for a small flat section until it penetrates, and then it no longer holds water, hence rusts no more.  A smaller easy repair, leaving an otherwise non rusted vehicle.
Title: Re: spot the diffrence
Post by: Big Al on June 09, 2014, 06:18:42 PM
Bertone production used some Fiat parts but was based on the P2 and 3. Then the contract went to Drautz in Germany. Perhaps Bertone could not meet demand, they were to expensive, I do not know. I believe about a 1000 of each were made. Then Drautz was bought into NSU ownership. The car gained uprated P4 parts and could be had with optional disc brakes, optional rear drums and wider bigger wheels, matching the Spyder. The Bertone was so different as to be a different car that looked the same as the later Sport Prinz. Quite bizarre. Job to remember but I think the door was longer, screen lower, Wings different shape. Fiat seats, Ferrari door handles. And so on.

Several Sport Prinz were modified to take wankel engines. In effect these had 4 cylinder rear suspension fitted instead of the swinging wishbone. A stronger and more predictable arrangement. The rust is a product of both poor steel on some runs and light weight gauge metal to keep the weight down, as with the rest of the range. It is one reason for the quite sprightly performance but the engine, within its limits, is a strong unit and can be reved to 7,500 revs with little fear of harm. The 600cc making a VW 1200cc look rather stupid (though the beetle is an older design). The better balanced 4 pots were raced and could handle 12,500 revs in the days a Mini fell apart much above half that. No NSU is perfect but they were ahead of the opposition in so many ways. Indeed a VW Golf Gti is more an NSU then ever it was a VW or Audi. Rewarding cars to own.
Title: Re: spot the diffrence
Post by: steven mandell on June 10, 2014, 01:32:54 PM
Fascinating historical recollection.