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Title: OK, what is it?
Post by: Jim Janecek on March 26, 2008, 06:46:37 PM
or what was it?

(http://i15.ebayimg.com/05/i/000/e4/81/0194_3.JPG)
Title: Re: OK, what is it?
Post by: Jawmedead on March 26, 2008, 06:53:18 PM
Looks like a Schmittmesser.  ;D
Title: Re: OK, what is it?
Post by: Peelpower on March 26, 2008, 07:48:27 PM
Half a Schmitt, and  half a submarine??!!
:)
I honestly wants to know what it is mates.

Ferdi
Title: here is a better view of the front suspension
Post by: Jim Janecek on March 26, 2008, 09:33:19 PM
look familiar to anyone?

(http://i6.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/e4/81/0163_3.JPG)

and the front of the thing:
(http://i16.ebayimg.com/06/i/000/e4/81/01de_3.JPG)

Title: Re: OK, what is it?
Post by: Jawmedead on March 26, 2008, 09:36:32 PM
Isetta headlights?
Title: Re: OK, what is it?
Post by: Bob Purton on March 26, 2008, 10:09:27 PM
Isetta front suspension and wheel hubs. Is it an attempt by someone to turn an isetta into there interpretation of a messerschmitt? I cant bear to look at it. Horrid!
Title: Re: OK, what is it?
Post by: Peelpower on March 26, 2008, 10:32:32 PM
Doesn't look that bad mates, only the headlights and the japanese indicators of the 70th, hmmm!
Title: "The Likeness Monster!"
Post by: Jim Janecek on March 26, 2008, 10:55:50 PM
this is a quote from someone else that I think bears repeating here:


"I think we need to name this monster. Frankenschmitt? The Likeness Monster?
Clearly the result of a diabolical cross-breeding experiment gone awry.
A KR200 mother, but what was the father?
Perhaps a cold war era Soviet military vehicle, or maybe the Confederate civil war submersible Hunley.
Truly a crime against theology and geometry."



Title: Re: OK, what is it?
Post by: marcus on March 27, 2008, 05:27:46 PM
OK, it's ugly, sacriligious, derivative, crude, etc. It is awful.....but I like it! (copyright Dick Emery)
Title: Re: OK, what is it?
Post by: Grant Kearney on March 27, 2008, 11:13:10 PM
But more importanly who is going to put a bid on it  :o
item no :  160222802974
Title: Re: OK, what is it?
Post by: inacoma on March 27, 2008, 11:48:11 PM
"MICRO CAR MAGIZINE ASKED IF THEY COULD SHOT THE CAR WHILE IT WAS BEING TURNED INTO A STREET-ROD "

What he didn't realise is that the wanted to REALY  shoot it ;D

John
Title: Re: OK, what is it?
Post by: marcus on March 28, 2008, 12:43:53 PM
It reminds me a bit of the lovely mini submarine in the Tintin books "Secret of the Unicorn" or "Red Rackham's Treasure". On that subject on the last page of one Tintin book there is a lovely picture of a group of cars about to set off on a rally, and it includes a KR175 and a Velam Isetta.
Incidentally, today, Friday , UKTV History is showing the attempted assassination of Princess Ann, and a few minutes in there is stock footage of traffic in London which includes a shot in front of Buck house, and a blue and white Nobel drives by right to Left. Don't blink!
Title: Re: OK, what is it?
Post by: Bob Purton on March 28, 2008, 02:38:10 PM
I must watch that, is it in the episode about Lord Mountbatten?
Title: Re: OK, what is it?
Post by: Stuart Cyphus on March 28, 2008, 03:10:37 PM
 I like this car! But then I like all one-offs & bodge-ups.  "Truly a crime against theology and geometry."? But then weren't all micros guilty of this in one way or another? Somebody somewhere save this car and don't let the rodders kill it.

 Too many times people either dismiss or condemn a car just becuse it wasn't "factury" built or designed. But then neither were half of the "real" micros we all rave about.  Suerly the very fact that ANY vehicle exists in any shape or form means that that vehicle has some sort of reason & history behind it, no matter if it was built by a vast company or Fred Jenkins down the shed. By some of the comments posted here, it would seem some are happy to just throw anything they personally can't be bothered about in the crusher & to heck with the details without even attempting to check them out.  For all we know, this could have been (for hypothetical example) one of Fritz Fend's back garden project cars from 1979. Or whatever. How do we know? Has anyone checked? But then why should the vehicle be any less interesting even if it wasn't? A lot of work looks to have gone into this thing. Suerly for that reason alone it should at least be given half a chance to try & survive...........

  (Founder member of SPHV; Society for the Preservation of Hideous Vehicles)
Title: Re: OK, what is it?
Post by: Jim Janecek on March 28, 2008, 03:28:15 PM
The "car" is in the USA in Florida.

I tried to get the current owners to give me some sort of history of the thing, they were not interested or did not know.
All they wanted was value.
And now all they want is money.

They don't care who built it, they don't care what it is made from.
They think this is Hot Rod Material, never mind that it apparently has no engine and the front suspension is from an Isetta.

They tried to foist it as being a "prototype Messerschmitt".

It is home made. I have absolutely no doubt.
True it is butt ugly but that is part of its charm.
The fact that someone tried to make their own Messerschmitt and had limitations on materials, budget and parts as well as skills really sticks out, but someone said "Hey I can make one of those, how hard can that be?"

But that someone is now gone and all that is left is this curious piece.
Title: Re: OK, what is it?
Post by: Bob Purton on March 28, 2008, 05:04:16 PM
Well Stuart. you could always put your money where your mouth is and buy it! It looks to me like an unfinished project, proberbly never had an engine fitted so you wouldnt so much be saving a car but an idea. As far as it being one of Fitz Fends earlier attempts, why would it have isetta components? Having said that it does match the dubious styling of the Flitzer, that too looks like Fred Jenkins made it in the shed. Fred Jenkins? What happen to Joe blogs ?
Title: Re: OK, what is it?
Post by: Jawmedead on March 28, 2008, 05:24:17 PM
 Just found this on Fred. He's in USA too. But I doubt wether he had anything to do with the Scmittefrankenstein!
HO HO.
 
Fred Jenkins: Solo Recording Artist & Guitarist For The Gap Band.
52 years old
LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA
United States



 
 
 

Title: Re: OK, what is it?
Post by: Bob Purton on March 28, 2008, 10:32:49 PM
Oh THAT Fred Jenkins!
Title: Re: OK, what is it?
Post by: Stuart Cyphus on March 28, 2008, 10:42:40 PM
 Honestly, you make a name up out of thin air & next thing you know it pops up in reality.  ::)
Title: Re: OK, what is it?
Post by: Jawmedead on March 28, 2008, 11:09:56 PM
Honestly, you make a name up out of thin air & next thing you know it pops up in reality. ::)

I just did a search in Stuarts name and he must be real  ??? Up came loads of info. about the Guy and Conveyences. Great stuff. ;D
Title: Re: OK, what is it?
Post by: Bob Purton on March 29, 2008, 08:57:18 AM
Oh yes. I just searched Stuart too. Well, is this boy famous?!!! I have never seen so many references to a single person on google!
 Now we know why he bills himself Most fabulous person in the universe. It appears to be quite a rare name. Interestingly on page three there is a reference to a Seamus Cyphus contradicting the Parisian rumor that Stuart was scottish, it now appears there is some Irish blood im him, I'm saying no more!
Title: Sansationall news about Robert Purton!!!!!!!
Post by: Stuart Cyphus on March 29, 2008, 06:16:20 PM
 Whilst we're all google searching each others names, I thought I'd do a few folk, and look what I've found.  :o

   I say, old bobbybubble kept this quiet didn't he!     :o :o :o :o

http://www.hrionline.ac.uk/luceneweb/hri3/hitlist_20050804.jsp?mode=bailey&table=name&surname=PURTON&surname_type=exact&given=ROBERT&alias=&occupation=&sin=&context=&gender=&min_month=00&min_year=&max_month=13&max_year=
Title: Re: OK, what is it?
Post by: inacoma on March 29, 2008, 06:31:13 PM
I knew Bob had had a hard life, but  the fact that he is so old explains everything

 ;D
Title: Re: OK, what is it?
Post by: cuscus47 on March 29, 2008, 07:09:06 PM
Well, at least he had a free trip to Oz.
Title: Re: OK, what is it?
Post by: Bob Purton on March 29, 2008, 08:32:11 PM
Its a fair cop guv!! inacoma alias John Johnson didnt fair much better. I always thought he looked shifty! http://www.hrionline.ac.uk/oldbailey/html_units/1680s/t16841210-54.html      What did he want those stockings for?
Title: Re: OK, what is it?
Post by: inacoma on March 29, 2008, 09:24:49 PM
Hi

"stealing a Cloath Coat, a Doublet and a pair of Stockings"

It's a fair cop. I was obviously after the stockings   :-\

John