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General Category => Sales & Auctions => Topic started by: Stuart Cyphus on January 09, 2008, 03:34:49 pm

Title: Genuine export-model Bond Mk C
Post by: Stuart Cyphus on January 09, 2008, 03:34:49 pm
 How rare is this? A genuine LHD export-model Bond Mk C in Massachusetts, USA. Buy-it-now price is a little bit steep though.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Makes-Minicar-MK-C-1953-Bond-MK-C-Minicar-3-wheel-Microcar-85MPG-villar_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6472QQihZ003QQitemZ130188546690QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
Title: Re: Genuine export-model Bond Mk C
Post by: Dan Rodd on January 09, 2008, 05:16:12 pm
was sold as the sharps bear-cup in the us,quite remarkable that it actually sold!
Title: Re: Genuine export-model Bond Mk C
Post by: inacoma on January 09, 2008, 10:26:47 pm
Hi

I must be getting cynical in my old age.

99.5% complete
Easy restoration

Have they seen the pictures?????????????? , they could give a 1980's estate agent a run for their money

Nice when restored, but in this state?

John
Title: Re: Genuine export-model Bond Mk C
Post by: Dan Rodd on January 10, 2008, 04:54:15 pm
it is an easy resto,being alluminium there isnt going to be any serious rot.theres only a seat cushion and a hood to remake,and things like lights are easy enough to find,if it was in the uk i might have been tempted.
Title: Re: Genuine export-model Bond Mk C
Post by: witney44 on January 10, 2008, 05:01:13 pm
,and things like lights are easy enough to find,

Where can I get some headlights for a Mk C ?  These are the ones we want for the Gordon.
Title: Re: Genuine export-model Bond Mk C
Post by: Dan Rodd on January 10, 2008, 06:29:58 pm
now then,are you looking for ones that are 100% correct,or ones that will fit and do the job?
Title: Re: Genuine export-model Bond Mk C
Post by: witney44 on January 10, 2008, 06:35:31 pm
The part I need first are the bowls that hold the lights onto the front. The bowl rim has to lay flat onto the bodywork so that the chrome rim is also flat to the body. 
Title: Re: Genuine export-model Bond Mk C
Post by: Dan Rodd on January 10, 2008, 06:53:38 pm
if you could get some dimensions i can have a look in the classic bike and scooter area.
Title: Re: Genuine export-model Bond Mk C
Post by: Grant Kearney on January 10, 2008, 07:50:56 pm
I have the very sad remains of a pair of original Bond headlights which I hope to restore to fit to my MkD family.  The headlight bowls are rotten but could be used as a pattern.  I briefly thought about making new ones by vacuum forming thin plastic sheet over a fibreglass/wood pattern.  Before I even progressed this far I quickly realised that a very similar bowl is fitted to the Scootacar (wipac). When I compared the 2 the only difference is the Scootacar one has a raised lip for the headlight rim to locate in.  This can be simply removed with a thin slitting disc in the angle grinder and leaves a flat edge to but against the body work.
The headlights are not marked with a makers name but I suspect they are period Miller and would have originated from a motorcycle.  A new pair did surface at last years NMCR but sadly I was too late!
Stephen Boyd of the Scootacar register might have some bowls available or try Malcolm Leech (Wipac specialist) on 0121 559 7306.  I have bought some from him in the past.
Title: Re: Genuine export-model Bond Mk C
Post by: witney44 on January 11, 2008, 03:27:15 pm
Hi Guys,
 Thanks for the help. I already have a pair of Scootacar bowls c/o Stephen. I thought of cutting off the raised flange but then there would be nothing then to clip the reflecter and rim to. I have found that a BSA Bantam reflecter and rim fits OK. So, I think the Gordon will be graced with these. Only a purist will find fault, but then what is there to go by? Only the other five Gordon owners know the 'proper' lights on the car. Cars do have modifications made by the owners over the years when parts are unobtainable so I will have to stay with the Wipacs.
Thanks again. Rob
Title: Re: Genuine export-model Bond Mk C
Post by: Grant Kearney on January 11, 2008, 09:34:50 pm
On the Bond the headlight unit (rim, reflector, glass and bulb holder) is held in place by two small 'L' shaped brackets which fit through two slots in the chrome rim.  These act as adjustors to line up the beam.  There is a third point on the top of the rim where a decorative chromed 'peak' is used to hold the unit in place.  The bowl is held in place by 2 mushroom head set screws.
I think the Gordon has the same means of holding the headlight unit in place.  Are there any traces of 3 small holes around the headlight holes on the front panel?
BSA Bantem (Wipac) headlights are used on the Scootacar so will fit nicely in the metal bowls.
Most Bond MkC/Ds are now fitted with the 'Scootacar' type bowls and Wipac headlights as they originals are just impossible to find. A nice compromise would be to find the correct lenses which have a small clear circle in the middle and the rest of the glass is 'frosted'.
Title: Re: Genuine export-model Bond Mk C
Post by: Stuart Cyphus on January 11, 2008, 09:56:00 pm

Most Bond MkC/Ds correct lenses  have a small clear circle in the middle and the rest of the glass is 'frosted'.


 That's an acurate description of the Raydot headlight fitted to my Argson Electric. Before you ask, no you can't have it for the Gordon!
Title: Re: Genuine export-model Bond Mk C - look at the other seller's comments!!!!
Post by: cuscus47 on January 11, 2008, 11:01:14 pm
The seller of this other Bond, has some very interesting comments on the one in discussion. Have a look at it, it is on the West Coast of America, in lieu of the one on the East Coast.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Makes-Bond-Minicar-1954-BOND-Minicar-Mark-C-Best-in-America_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6472QQihZ016QQitemZ260202099060QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

Title: Re: Genuine export-model Bond Mk C
Post by: Dan Rodd on January 11, 2008, 11:43:41 pm
what a complete t0sser! all he has done is slag off the other car,his isnt that great,and half his pictures were taken when it was in its rightful home over here.

"nothing is availiable for the Bond" is also complete crap too,makes me mad!
Title: Re: Genuine export-model Bond Mk C
Post by: blob on January 12, 2008, 12:14:15 am
I agree his car should speak for it's self without underhand tactics. He thinks he
Title: Re: Genuine export-model Bond Mk C
Post by: P50 on January 12, 2008, 06:50:27 am
Wheels & tires. Tires are easy
Title: Re: Genuine export-model Bond Mk C
Post by: Dan Rodd on January 12, 2008, 12:25:16 pm
Continental do though!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Lambretta-LD-4-00-8-Continental-Tyre-Black-wall_W0QQitemZ140195995652QQihZ004QQcategoryZ122298QQcmdZViewItem
Title: Re: Genuine export-model Bond Mk C
Post by: Stuart Cyphus on January 12, 2008, 12:35:49 pm
 Plus the seller of this second Bond is overlooking a majour fundimental point; His Bond is a bog-normal & bog-common (relitivaley talking) UK-market Mk C (of which, a fair few were made) which has been recently shipped to the US from here. The original-mentioned Bond is a genuine USA export model (of which, very few indeed were made) which has all the proper USA details, and has spent its whole life over there. Bonus points by the bucketload for that.....
Title: Re: Genuine export-model Bond Mk C
Post by: P50 on January 12, 2008, 01:30:25 pm
Plus the seller of this second Bond is overlooking a majour fundimental point; His Bond is a bog-normal & bog-common (relitivaley talking) UK-market Mk C (of which, a fair few were made) which has been recently shipped to the US from here. The original-mentioned Bond is a genuine USA export model (of which, very few indeed were made) which has all the proper USA details, and has spent its whole life over there. Bonus points by the bucketload for that.....

Indeed, If I was in the States it would be the LHD machine for me.

The Continental tyres are no good for a Micro. You need square shouldered profile. Those scooter tyre would be lethal in the wet... 
Title: Re: Genuine export-model Bond Mk C
Post by: Bob Purton on January 12, 2008, 01:45:05 pm
I wonder if there is any stock of the said michelin still in the USA, might be worth enquiring.