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Title: Another Bamby
Post by: blob on April 21, 2008, 10:48:36 pm
I'm assuming this is the barn find previously mentioned on the forum, now for sale one eBay, Stuart are you watching this one?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BAMBY-MICROCAR_W0QQitemZ320242884329QQihZ011QQcategoryZ18308QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Title: Re: Another Bamby
Post by: Inaheinkel on April 21, 2008, 10:53:55 pm
Hi

yes this is the one.

Funny how they want all the help and info. you can give when they don't know what they have, but forget to let you know when they decide to sell it.

John
Title: Re: Another Bamby
Post by: Peelpower on April 23, 2008, 12:19:15 am
Auction is ended earlier. The Bamby is gone! Who purchased it?? Any idea?  ;) ;)
Title: Bamby sold?
Post by: LaforzaLand on April 23, 2008, 02:44:01 am
I was thinking about bidding on that fun little car... any ideas on why the auction ended?
Title: Re: Another Bamby
Post by: Inaheinkel on April 23, 2008, 07:34:52 am
Hi,

I suspect he did a deal with a potential customer, off of Ebay.

Saves on final value fees.

I had offered to buy the car when it was first found, and the seller said he would let me know when he had the V5c in his possesion, but he obviously had a slight lapse of memory.
::)

If the winner is out there welcome and remember to join the Rumcars Magzine and forum

john
Title: Re: Another Bamby
Post by: Bob Purton on April 23, 2008, 08:49:52 am
I have a good idea who may have bought it. I think someone is buying them all up with the idea that they will become the next  P50 and they could be right, they have a few things in common, both cute to look at, both mechanicaly appauling, both a commercial failure, both scream "take me home and look after me!"
Title: Re: Another Bamby
Post by: g-o-g-g-o on April 23, 2008, 09:43:03 am
Hi Bob
          Its comments like that, will push the price up - the rareity factor of these 50cc cars and the peaple that bought them in the first place that only about 50 wrer produced, Peel P50, Trident, Cursor, and Bamby, I regret the day I sold my Cursor.
                                                                                                                                                                    Mike
Title: Re: Another Bamby
Post by: Bob Purton on April 23, 2008, 10:02:46 am
I hope so, I have a couple of them at the back of the workshop. Keep ha hair on Mike, since when has anyone taken any notice of what I say anyway!!!
Do you fancy a jaunt to Burgundy in august?
Title: Re: Another Bamby
Post by: g-o-g-g-o on April 23, 2008, 10:21:30 am
Hi Bob
          We could go in a couple of Bamby's
Title: Re: Another Bamby
Post by: Bob Purton on April 23, 2008, 11:08:37 am
We could have if it wasnt for the fact that I lied about having a pair of em in the workshop! [plus they are not old enough to get past security!]
Title: Re: Another Bamby
Post by: P50 on April 23, 2008, 01:14:55 pm
Hi Bob
     Its comments like that, will push the price up - the rareity factor of these 50cc cars and the peaple that bought them in the first place that only about 50 wrer produced, Peel P50, Trident, Cursor, and Bamby, I regret the day I sold my Cursor.
                                                                                  Mike

Ahh prices. For some strange reason 'hype' exists for certain micros. Ramping up perceived undervalued oddities. Oldest trick in the book.  Some machines are rightly revered. Rarity gentlemen is not enough. Is a Bond 875 worth 20 grand?  I am of the opinion you cannot alter Darwenian natural selection and desireablity. Everything finds its own level and the market won't be fooled. The Trident is unique. Uber desireable due to its styling,era and zero availability. It has dare I say it dragged the aesthetically grim P50 up with it.

Should the Trident never have been constructed then I fear the P50 would not be valued quite so highly (whatever that value might be as zero supply of late gives no indication as to what one's worth).

I suspect Bamby's/Cursors will perform in line with inflation.  They lack the magic of the 50's and 60's.

Discuss!

Title: Re: Another Bamby
Post by: Dan Rodd on April 23, 2008, 01:57:20 pm
All things are relative.whos to say that once the bamby is 40 yrs old it wont be worth £20k?

Peels havent always been so highly priced,in the 80s they could be bought for under £1500.

The Bamby is of a similar age as to Peels in the 80s,and of a similar price now.Will it be sought after?only in my opinon if its thought of as being the follow up to the Peel,and held in the same high regard.

They are of course,not going to go down in value,its up to the public to decide how much they go up.

clearly rarity is not the main reason behind Peels and bambys interest amongst collectors,otherwise we would all be searching out Tippen Deltas and Bond 875s(both of which,i would love to own)
Title: Re: Another Bamby
Post by: Bob Purton on April 23, 2008, 02:12:35 pm
My dear boy, Darwinian natural selection fell out of favor with the ardentest of evolutionists two decades ago! The emporers new cloths are marketed in a whole range of new styles now. . do try and keep up. Interesting theory about P50 values being propelled forward in the wake of trident prices, I still think P50's would have been sought after even if the trident had never been conceived. Just the claim of they being the worlds smallest production car alone gives reason for museums to desire an example. Just had another thought, I wonder if a P50 left for a long time unloved, in danger of exstinction in an unfavorable market place would spontaniously generate a dome and a passenger seat?
Title: Re: Another Bamby
Post by: Jawmedead on April 23, 2008, 02:54:58 pm
Don't you write a load of old twaddle?
Title: Re: Another Bamby
Post by: Bob Purton on April 23, 2008, 03:34:03 pm
Sorry Rob. If you knew the history of evolutionary theories and related book titles you would understand the language, obviously not your subject. Personaly I think its ALL a load of twaddle!l
Title: Re: Another Bamby
Post by: g-o-g-g-o on April 23, 2008, 04:37:06 pm
Hi
    I agree with P50 it boils down to supply and demand/and wha people want, but I would put something else into the equation it's called the AC (Andy Carter) factor, if your average guy cant find what he wants he will get a replica, so people wacthing Top Gear, will go to him to buy a replicar P50 or Trident because as P50 says the supply is ZERO, I've just looked though Andy Carters list of cars and as well as the Peel's he has a replica of the Goggo Dart, Scootacar, the Mopetta, and the Bamby.
 
  So applying my third criterea you can buy a replica of the Bamby if you connot find reall one.
 
  Is Bob suggesting that J C of Top Gear is buying Bamby's
Title: Re: Another Bamby
Post by: Stuart Cyphus on April 23, 2008, 04:44:38 pm
Auction is ended earlier. The Bamby is gone! Who purchased it?? Any idea?  ;) ;)

 Who indeed.....  ;)
Title: Re: Another Bamby
Post by: P50 on April 23, 2008, 05:12:09 pm
Hi
 I agree with P50 it boils down to supply and demand/and wha people want, but I would put something else into the equation it's called the AC (Andy Carter) factor, if your average guy cant find what he wants he will get a replica, so people wacthing Top Gear, will go to him to buy a replicar P50 or Trident because as P50 says the supply is ZERO, I've just looked though Andy Carters list of cars and as well as the Peel's he has a replica of the Goggo Dart, Scootacar, the Mopetta, and the Bamby.
 
 So applying my third criterea you can buy a replica of the Bamby if you connot find reall one.
 
 Is Bob suggesting that J C of Top Gear is buying Bamby's

Hmm?  There's punters who want a 'Trident' shaped conveyance and there's collectors who want a pukka Peel 'cos thats what they want!   You pays your money and takes your choice (in Peels cases to who?!)...   Art is always worth more than the sum of its ingredients.  Mona Lisa on Portobello road stall. Tenner.  Mona Lisa in Paris, billions. 

The trick is to identify what's what.  All this hype about 80's CS50 engined micros means they're being just that. Hyped! The 80's are not a golden era.  Few choice bits and pieces like Mk1 Golf GTI etc but most is dross. 

 A replica by default must be cheaper that a real one!  Seeing as a Bamby's worth 1500 quid and a Carter jobbie should he build one from scratch be 10 grand.  I may have to eat my words but when's a Bamby going to make 10k?  It will be worth 10k one day.  And a bag of chips might be £30!!

Scootacars now have zero supply. And they're the dogs danglies.  Second only to a Trident in bonkers styling.  Anyone noticed bundles of KR's on Evilbay recently?  Prices are now a bit softer of late.  And rightly so. Supply/demand.  Whislt they're fetching good money owners are letting KR's go.  I can see Mk1 Scoots soaring past boggo KR's. They have the magic ingredient.  Nought availability. 50/60's era build. Terrific styling. 

Discuss!!
Title: Re: Another Bamby
Post by: Bob Purton on April 23, 2008, 06:28:15 pm
"Is Bob suggesting that J C of Top Gear is buying Bamby's"             No, I'm not suggesting that at all. My theory [not evolutionary as no one seems to be read on the subject especially retired postman!] is that the buyer of the first £1,500.00 one also bought the second, this buyer if it is who I think it is has been panic buying and stashing away microcars like there is no tomorrow for some time now. Andy revealed to me at the weekend that the BBC asked to buy his P50, he declined and has made them a replica instead which is currently touring the USA with them. I asked him to do a job for me and was told I would have to wait a year on account of a full peel rep order book as a result of the TV prog. If you dont like peel replicas that news will make you bristle all the more!
Title: Re: Another Bamby
Post by: Stuart Cyphus on April 23, 2008, 06:42:38 pm
 Interesting thory Bob P., but I can assure you the buyer of the first Bamby WASN'T the buyer of the second! He has more sense than that, and certainly isn't "panic-buying" anything.

 On the further subject of veiled insult huling, can we pack it in please. I come on this forum to get away from such things in everyday life. If the micro world ends up decending to the same level, I'll go elsewhere tommorow.........
Title: Re: Another Bamby
Post by: g-o-g-g-o on April 23, 2008, 07:36:07 pm
Well said Stuart - Now Bob you have got me in suspence what are you building - we know it's got a villiers engine (you were asking about a 250cc covension) and you had to see Andy Carter about building a Body? what is it?????? ??? ??? ???
                                                                                                                                                                      Mike
Title: Re: Another Bamby
Post by: Inaheinkel on April 23, 2008, 07:47:41 pm
Hi

Of course I love bambys, but they are only worth half as much as a Cursor.

What do you mean I became biased as of 3 days ago ;D , I don't know what you mean?

John

 ;D
Title: Re: Another Bamby
Post by: Grant Kearney on April 23, 2008, 09:48:21 pm
Now Bob you have got me in suspence what are you building - we know it's got a villiers engine (you were asking about a 250cc covension) and you had to see Andy Carter about building a Body? what is it?????? ??? ??? ???

It has to be a Bond MkG, what else could it be ?. Bob must be attempting to build the first replica Bond using one of Andy Carter's (AC) new body shells but using an original Villiers engine. The first couple of MkG replicas AC has built have the Honda 250 power plant.
Looking forward to his latest replica, the Nobel 400 which will be launched later in the year by a rather famous TV personality ;) and put through its paces during a track event.
Title: Re: Another Bamby
Post by: Stuart Cyphus on April 23, 2008, 11:07:04 pm
 
Looking forward to his latest replica, the Nobel 400 which will be launched later in the year by a rather famous TV personality  ;) and put through its paces during a track event

 And it'll probibly be accompanied by a bout of uncontrolable foul language.........   ;)
Title: Re: Another Bamby
Post by: Bob Purton on April 23, 2008, 11:23:08 pm
I think you had better take another look and see who insulted who! Firstly someone is rude enough to call my post a load of twaddle and now you two being too scared to reprimand the perpetrator turn on the victim and have a go at me! Thats rich!  Thanks guys. I give up!
Title: Re: Another Bamby
Post by: Dan Rodd on April 24, 2008, 02:59:30 pm
you sure love to edit your posts after theyve been read dont you?! ;D
Title: Re: Another Bamby
Post by: Stuart Cyphus on April 24, 2008, 03:04:34 pm
On the further subject of veiled insult huling, can we pack it in please. I come on this forum to get away from such things in everyday life. If the micro world ends up decending to the same level, I'll go elsewhere tommorow.........

 The above comment being aimed at EVERYONE on this forum......
Title: Re: Another Bamby
Post by: Bob Purton on April 24, 2008, 04:09:48 pm
Thank you Stuart, thats sounds a little fairer.   DAN. I dont know if you are refering to me but no posts have been edited on this thread, mine or anybody elses for that matter.
Title: Re: Another Bamby
Post by: Stuart Cyphus on April 24, 2008, 04:25:01 pm

 And it'll probibly be accompanied by a bout of uncontrolable foul language.........   ;)

  And this being a possible ponderance on what might be being developed in an Essex shed......   ???  :-*
Title: Re: Another Bamby
Post by: Dan Rodd on April 24, 2008, 05:06:08 pm
whats this mean then? ???

 I think you had better take another look and see who insulted who! Firstly someone is rude enough to call my post a load of twaddle and now you two being too scared to reprimand the perpetrator turn on the victim and have a go at me! Thats rich!   Thanks guys. I give up!
 
Title: Re: Another Bamby
Post by: Bob Purton on April 24, 2008, 05:13:45 pm
Its a spell check edit. Ask anyone who has been reading the thread, no content has been added or removed!
Title: Re: Another Bamby
Post by: Dan Rodd on April 24, 2008, 05:15:25 pm
Fair enoguh :)
Title: Re: Another Bamby
Post by: Bob Purton on April 24, 2008, 05:29:24 pm
It was the word perpetrator that I was struggling with. Hows the Ariel? Have you been out on it yet this year?
Title: Re: Another Bamby
Post by: Dan Rodd on April 24, 2008, 07:18:12 pm
Have i been out on it?its my main mode of transport ;D,did 250 miles last week alone!

Gearbox could do with some new gaskets soon though ;)
Title: Re: Another Bamby
Post by: Bob Purton on April 24, 2008, 09:51:01 pm
Oh well done Dan, thats what I like to see. There is nothing quite like the sound of Birmingham steel coming up the road. Ride em hard!
Title: Re: Another Bamby
Post by: Dan Rodd on April 24, 2008, 10:09:37 pm
Here is a pic of it i took yesterday,i celebrate St Georges Day properly!

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/Rodd/HPIM0606.jpg)
Title: Re: Another Bamby
Post by: P50 on April 25, 2008, 06:19:25 am
Class!!  Dan I doff my cap in your general direction.