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General Category => Unusual Microcar Discussion => Topic started by: richard on September 25, 2010, 12:43:28 pm

Title: villiers twin engine - discuss
Post by: richard on September 25, 2010, 12:43:28 pm
thats discuss not discus  ;) although a lot of these topics do go around an around !

the villiers twin engine - does anyone have any experience of these ? I am to start rebuilding my Bond G with the twin engine . in Bond circles the 250 villiers single engine is MUCH preferred to the 250 single. the twin is always derided and i would like to know why before i rebuild the original engine and then find they were right all along.
Title: Re: villiers twin engine - discuss
Post by: Stuart Cyphus on September 25, 2010, 01:01:58 pm

 although a lot of these topics do go around an around !


 I'm so dizzy, my head is spinning....   Tommy Roe, 1969.   ;)
Title: Re: villiers twin engine - discuss
Post by: Grant Kearney on September 25, 2010, 07:31:55 pm
The 4T twin when new caused a lot of excitement for Bond owners.  Known as the 60/60 Bond, they claimed 60 to the gallon at 60PMH.  Alas that was not quite true and a result many Twin owners converted their cars back to singles. Bonds were supposed to be cheap to buy and run but a Twin was neither.   Very few Twins were in regular use until 5 years ago when there was a resurgences in interest.
The main problems are : centre seal on the cranks goes with age or lack of use, pistons, other than standard are near impossible to find these days, there are 2 of everything to go wrong ! and the fuel consumption is really poor.
That said my Twin goes like a rocket and is silky smooth with it.  I drive it every where and it has yet to let me down.  I took it to Jean's rally last year then drove it to the Isle of Man and back fully loaded with no probs.
I much prefer the 3T as fitted to the Frisky Sport and Scootacar Mk3.  Much more power and similar fuel consumption.  I was always toying with the idea to fit a 3T into a Bond.
No excuses for not getting yours on the road then Richard.
Title: Re: villiers twin engine - discuss
Post by: richard on September 25, 2010, 09:43:48 pm
thanks for that scootercar must call in and see you one day when on my way up to inverness. do tell me just what is the difference between a 2T, 3T and a 4T. does anyone understand the villiers numbering system  ?
Title: Re: villiers twin engine - discuss
Post by: Big Al on September 26, 2010, 11:08:01 am
This was my understanding of the twin verses the single. I believe the twin eats tyres on the front of a Bond faster to. Bonders were always cash conscious.
Times change as does use of our vehicles. A twin is now perhaps more viable as many a Micro does less than 500 miles a year so fuel con suption is really rather negligible against additional speed in modern traffic situations. Thus I would love a Scootacar Mk3, burn baby burn.
Big Al