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Title: Strange three wheeler...
Post by: Scootacar_mk1 on November 14, 2012, 12:55:07 pm
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C346404

Title: Re: Strange three wheeler...
Post by: Big Al on November 14, 2012, 01:09:19 pm
Seen and been offered this oddity some years ago.
Title: Re: Strange three wheeler...
Post by: marcus on November 14, 2012, 03:04:40 pm
Interesting shape: simple curves in only one plane, but carefully shaped to give a good impression of rounded bodywork. The front view looks like something from Fritz Lang's film Metropolis
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Post by: Jonathan Poll on November 14, 2012, 03:20:47 pm
I love it!
Title: Re: Strange three wheeler...
Post by: Big Al on November 15, 2012, 09:58:24 am
Oh, I should mention I seem to remember it is a four wheeler actually. The rear wheels being closer coupled. I did wonder if it were effectively a re-bodied early Mochet. I also wonder how well it steered. It was located in south Belgium then. The ad would suggest it never sold for the £3,000 then hoped for. Had a nice terrier styled dog. Idle for the man who likes Stieb sports sidecars and multi chine boats.
Title: Re: Strange three wheeler...
Post by: jean-do on November 24, 2012, 08:16:45 am
this nice " Ford Vedette  look"  is a POCHERON, name of the builder . steering rear wheel !! ( have you ever drove a fenwick lift ??!! ) mounted on a 360 axel, that gave the car the possibility to turn  completely, or go back ... like bumper cars !
seems that only one was built ...
my birthday is in january , my dear friends ........
Title: Re: Strange three wheeler...
Post by: Big Al on November 24, 2012, 08:44:37 am
So Flipper style but on the rear axle centre. That would explain the lack of space for a kingpin mounted wheel by the body. Novel and slightly frightening, but, hey, that's a great Microcar trick.
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Post by: marcus on November 24, 2012, 08:54:35 am
Thanks Jean-do, do you plan to buy it? I would love to see this rare and eccentric car owned and restored by a true enthusiast.
The rear wheel steering is odd, and something you would need to be careful about if you are going at any speed. When I made my Drum Car I decided to use rear wheel steering for several reasons: between the two front wheels I needed space for the two bass drums and their pedals and for the Hihat Cymbals and their stand and pedal, I think Hihats are called Charleston in French. Also stands for the drums were there and a structural mounting point. That left little room for front wheel steering linkages, and also if the 2 front wheels had steered the chassis would have been too wide to fit through doors.

I decided that RWS would be fine as it would never exceed 18 kph (keeping it within the law to use on pavements. One time testing it freewheeling downhill I was doing about 30 kph and it was like a first drive in a KR 200....uncontrollable swerving side-to-side, and quite alarming!

The RWS DID give it a great turning circle. This is brilliant when riving it in parades because I can aim at the crowd and get really close to them so they are starting to panic, and just when they are squashed up against a building and expect to be hurt I turn 90 degrees on the spot, and always get cheers and applause from them. So yes it is like driving a fork lift truck! great fun!
Title: Re: Strange three wheeler...
Post by: jean-do on November 24, 2012, 07:36:59 pm
hey markus,
sometimes i dream i'm Bruce Weiner and don't want to sell ever my collection !!! ^^
 yes i dream of such beautiful bubblecar , but it won't be in my prices i imagine, and  i have to restore my Inter, an d Velam for 2014 Bisbi national  rally !! ....
Title: Re: Strange three wheeler...
Post by: marcus on November 24, 2012, 08:02:27 pm
Ah, I thought that when you mentioned your birthday soon that perhaps you were planning on buying it as a birthday present for yourself! Oh well, hope it finds a good home anyway, it is definitely an historical curio which should be saved.
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Post by: Jim Janecek on November 24, 2012, 08:24:00 pm
I think the "birthday" hint to "my friends" was a nice attempt for everyone to chip in and "surprise" him with it for his birthday.
Title: Re: Strange three wheeler...
Post by: marcus on November 24, 2012, 08:54:23 pm
^ Exactly!

Not a very good time of year, nor a very good time of economic cycle for much chipping in though!
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Post by: richard on November 24, 2012, 09:01:29 pm
well i hope the economy will be on the up when my April birthday arrives - start saving up friends  ;)
Title: Re: Strange three wheeler...
Post by: marcus on November 24, 2012, 09:10:54 pm
Don't worry Dickie, if we ALL chip in together, by April we might be able to afford to get you a WHOLE Tunnock's Tea Cake.
Title: Re: Strange three wheeler...
Post by: piatti on November 26, 2012, 06:49:35 pm
Here are more pics of the Pocheron... The side view is not that stunning as the front view

Title: Re: Strange three wheeler...
Post by: marcus on November 26, 2012, 08:49:12 pm
You're right, it's far less good! The back also looks like it could be the front, a bit like a Scammell Scarab even.
Clearly the builder did not have access to or funds for a wheeling machine or press tools, so still a very creditable way to make an interesting looking car our of single-plane curvature. Skillful welding of the panels too.
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Post by: Big Al on November 27, 2012, 09:57:13 am
Get it to a certain car park in Feb.......
Title: Re: Strange three wheeler contact details
Post by: Peel Yahct Car on October 07, 2013, 11:15:37 am
I'm off to Belgium this weekend and would like to have a look at this car
The original advert now seems to have expired and hasn't got the contact details
Therefore has anyone have the these details to hand ?
Regards
Gary Hillman